Jun 24, 2020, 6:06 am
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Moderator announcement - June 23, 2020:
Flyertalk’s moderators generally take a hands-off approach when it comes to judging the accuracy of members’ statements. While that’s fine for travel debates, a pandemic is clearly a more serious issue.
A meta-analysis of 172 studies that looked at various interventions to prevent the transmission of COVID-19, SARS and MERS from an infected person to people close to them, published in The Lancet on June 1, found that mask wearing significantly reduces the risk of viral transmission.
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- Coronavirus and Travel moderator team
Flyertalk’s moderators generally take a hands-off approach when it comes to judging the accuracy of members’ statements. While that’s fine for travel debates, a pandemic is clearly a more serious issue.
A meta-analysis of 172 studies that looked at various interventions to prevent the transmission of COVID-19, SARS and MERS from an infected person to people close to them, published in The Lancet on June 1, found that mask wearing significantly reduces the risk of viral transmission.
Given the science, the forum moderators are disallowing any further posts that debate whether or not masks should be worn. Posts that do so will be deleted and members subject to discipline.
Please also note, we do not allow posting of conspiracy theories or racist terms used in place of Covid-19, coronavirus, etc.
- Coronavirus and Travel moderator team
Coronavirus and masks/face coverings [Consolidated thread]
Jul 6, 2020, 6:34 am
#1697
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: LHR/ATH
Programs: Amex Platinum, LH SEN (Gold), BA Bronze
Posts: 4,489
A funny thing about face masks on flights, if you are flying and there is a Business Class dinner/drink service, well you end up not wearing your mask quite a bit as you are busy eating and drinking!
If you actually go for the full first class service well then you only wear a mask for boarding, take off and landing!
If you actually go for the full first class service well then you only wear a mask for boarding, take off and landing!
Jul 6, 2020, 8:46 am
#1698
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: Continental Onepass, Hilton, Marriott, USAir and now UA
Posts: 6,442
A funny thing about face masks on flights, if you are flying and there is a Business Class dinner/drink service, well you end up not wearing your mask quite a bit as you are busy eating and drinking!
If you actually go for the full first class service well then you only wear a mask for boarding, take off and landing!
If you actually go for the full first class service well then you only wear a mask for boarding, take off and landing!
However, mitigating activities, including less crowding in F as well as abbreviated meal service, will reduce the viral transmission risk as long as masks are worn at all other times.
Flying is one of the activities where I wear an N95 mask, since I need personal protection to prevent picking up the virus as well as decreasing my possible spreading of virus..
Jul 6, 2020, 4:40 pm
#1700
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Haze gray and underway
Programs: UA 1K 2MM, HH Diamond, Marriott 'clink clink' Titanium
Posts: 1,784
Mask decontamination using a microwave.
Good for 20 cycles with same N95 mask.
Complete cycle in only 3 minutes
https://mbio.asm.org/content/11/3/e00997-20
Good for 20 cycles with same N95 mask.
Complete cycle in only 3 minutes
https://mbio.asm.org/content/11/3/e00997-20
Jul 6, 2020, 4:43 pm
#1701
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Haze gray and underway
Programs: UA 1K 2MM, HH Diamond, Marriott 'clink clink' Titanium
Posts: 1,784
Jul 6, 2020, 4:46 pm
#1702
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Haze gray and underway
Programs: UA 1K 2MM, HH Diamond, Marriott 'clink clink' Titanium
Posts: 1,784
I believe this is why flying is considered a intermediate to high risk event for contracting the virus.
However, mitigating activities, including less crowding in F as well as abbreviated meal service, will reduce the viral transmission risk as long as masks are worn at all other times.
Flying is one of the activities where I wear an N95 mask, since I need personal protection to prevent picking up the virus as well as decreasing my possible spreading of virus..
However, mitigating activities, including less crowding in F as well as abbreviated meal service, will reduce the viral transmission risk as long as masks are worn at all other times.
Flying is one of the activities where I wear an N95 mask, since I need personal protection to prevent picking up the virus as well as decreasing my possible spreading of virus..
Jul 6, 2020, 5:25 pm
#1703
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
Programs: *G
Posts: 17,399
(Unless you fly private I suppose)
Jul 6, 2020, 7:09 pm
#1704
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: PHX
Programs: Delta DM, Marriott Lifetime Titanium, HHonrs Diamond
Posts: 1,336
Still waiting for anyone else from the Emirates DXB-HKG from back in June to test positive from sharing a cabin with the 26 people who were already infected when they left Pakistan.
Have not seen a single cluster from a commercial flight in the last two months.
As for clusters prior to masks, there was the Vietnam LHR-Hanoi flight back in March with cases localized to J class.
Jul 6, 2020, 7:19 pm
#1705
Suspended
Join Date: Feb 2009
Programs: DL, UA, AA, VS
Posts: 5,226
I've seen speculations about restrooms, both on board flights and also in airports.
Talk of the virus being aerosolized when toilets are flushed and the air in the bathrooms accumulating aerosols and droplets.
Airport bathrooms were suspect because of those Dyson jet hand dryers, which accelerated and dispersed germs all over the bathroom.
Jul 6, 2020, 10:41 pm
#1706
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2014
Programs: Top Tier with all 3 alliances
Posts: 11,669
I've seen speculations about restrooms, both on board flights and also in airports.
Talk of the virus being aerosolized when toilets are flushed and the air in the bathrooms accumulating aerosols and droplets.
Airport bathrooms were suspect because of those Dyson jet hand dryers, which accelerated and dispersed germs all over the bathroom.
Talk of the virus being aerosolized when toilets are flushed and the air in the bathrooms accumulating aerosols and droplets.
Airport bathrooms were suspect because of those Dyson jet hand dryers, which accelerated and dispersed germs all over the bathroom.
Jul 7, 2020, 12:51 am
#1708
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Berlin
Posts: 1,765
I'm curious if QR is going to be the first of many, or an outlier, in the requirement to wear a face shield in addition to a mask.
https://www.businessinsider.com/qata...20-7?r=DE&IR=T
https://www.businessinsider.com/qata...20-7?r=DE&IR=T
Jul 7, 2020, 1:07 am
#1709
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Kent, UK
Programs: M&S Elite+
Posts: 3,657
I'm curious if QR is going to be the first of many, or an outlier, in the requirement to wear a face shield in addition to a mask.
https://www.businessinsider.com/qata...20-7?r=DE&IR=T
https://www.businessinsider.com/qata...20-7?r=DE&IR=T
Business class passengers are exempt from the rule and are only required to wear the mask and shield "at their discretion."