PaulMSN

How would you know if the asthma makes it worse? You can't experience mask-wearing as a non-asthmatic, so what is your basis for comparison? Maybe others without asthma are just as uncomfortable as you are.

Minor discomfort seems a petty reason not to protect others from illness that could become fatal. In my opinion, you are not asking for tolerance, you are asking for special treatment.

Badenoch

It is lectures like this that only entrench opposition to masks and the people who support their use. Many of the mandatory mask orders allow an exemption for certain medical conditions that make masks an issue for some people. You'd be further ahead showing a little tolerance and appreciation of their situation instead of insulting and attempting to humiliate them.

ahmetdouas

Well my country agrees with me, that's all that matters.
Also you need to understand asthma, basically asthmatics have more sensitive lungs than usual that swell up and create mucus reacting to certain things (allergies, a cold, wearing a mask, etc.).

fransknorge

Please stop spreading propaganda without assertion in science: the medical profession is clear, asthmatic can wear masks, it has no incidence. There is even research showing masks *improve* some asthmatic conditions.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...bstract/372452
https://www.jacionline.org/article/S...12)02690-5/pdf

ahmetdouas

​​​​​​https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/19/peopl...warn-12723945/

I can easily find articles supporting not wearing masks as well, even this one specifically mentioning asthmatics. After all 'propaganda' is on both sides, pro and anti mask. I am not anti-mask, my issue is not with people wearing masks, but others forcing their opinion on me. If you want to wear a mask, go for it, but don't treat me like a criminal for trying not to.

And by the way, science is not exact either, scientists have many different theories, in fact our Chief Medical Officer and Chief Scientific Officer said themsleves the evidence for masks is 'not overwhelming', and they are respectively the top doctor and top scientist of the UK!

PaulMSN

I am asthmatic, so spare the lecture. No, your lungs don't swell up from wearing a mask -- the airways to the lungs might, as that is what asthma is, but only if you somehow react to the materials in the mask or to excess moisture in the air you breathe in. The answer to that is to choose different materials and/or materials that are moisture-wicking. If you still can't abide it, as a last resort wear a bandanna, which allows airflow from below but at least blocks some of your exhalation for the protection of others. If you still aren't satisfied, don't fly. No one is forcing an opinion, they are forcing compliance to their sensible rules. Their rules, which you have to obey if you want to fly.

Loren Pechtel

Well, I actually do object. I can see no sufficient state interest to mandate the wearing of clothes. (I can see a state interest in mandating that you don't put your bare bottom on public seating, though. I could also see a case for prohibiting it on standing-room-only public transit.) I have no problem with businesses mandating clothes, though. The few places with no law against public nudity don't seem to collapse in anarchy.

Exactly. I'd like to see masks the law of the land and going forward I would like to see masks the law of the land for anyone with an infectious disease that can spread that way.

And how does my attire become a safety issue for you?

ahmetdouas

I have flown many times without a mask; was not an issue. In the few times it was, I sucked it up and wore one.

Some airlines are more strict than others, so I will avoid the stricter airlines if at all possible.

And my experience is bandanas are worse than KN-95 masks that a flight-crew gave me. The medical basic mask was worse than the KN-95, so if I am forced to, KN-95 it is. So I have worn a face covering 3 times in my life until now.

I am not asking for special treatment. My reason for avoiding wearing one is valid under the rules. If I was wrong, it wouldn't be a part of the rules.

kiwifrequentflyer

I understand if you dislike my contempt for these people. Sadly I don't think any form of compassion for their opinion will change their mind. If compassion was something they cares about, they would be wearing masks instead of saying "tolerance."

Your disingenuous arguments fool absolutely no one, except maybe you. By calling it "attire" you are degrading it's purpose and belittling it. It is attire. And it is also something else.

A mask is PPE.

A mask is safety wear.

If a man rocks up to a building site, with no hard hat or protective gear on, despite state mandates that in dangerous situations, you wear that clothing, and others object, do you think that him saying "but why do you object to my attire choice" is going to fly?

No. No one objects because he chose different "attire." People object because certain "attire" is indeed mandated, for everyone's safety, in dangerous situations.

And what is a dangerous situation?

​​​​​​​A fast moving pandemic.

TravelingZoomer

I'm saying this without any condensation, only what I know from my professional experience as a psychologist.

I also have a asthma. If anything, we should be the first to wear masks, not the last. The reason why it's a "valid" reason is because of the, quite literally, fake news that has been floating around showing mask wearing is harmful to people with asthma. Tell me why olympic asthmatic runners wear masks as opposed to being staunchly against them?

The reason why it's a "valid" reason is because airlines rightfully so from a business perspective are scared from a lawsuit and rather just not deal with it. Why some people think it's harder to breathe with a mask on is because they have been fed lies that it restricts breathing and are responding to a panic attack which ironically makes it harder to breathe. Mask wearing has become so entrenched in morality and beliefs as opposed to being simple medical advice that it has caused such great emotional impacts if you are being "forced" to wear one.

knownothing

Not proven wrong read News Release 1-Jun-2020

1) Not proven: WRONG: 1 Jun 2020 The Lancet: Most comprehensive study to date provides evidence on optimal physical distancing, face masks, and eyeprotection to prevent spread of COVID-19. Face mask use could result in a large reduction in risk of infection

2) "No problem with others wearing but not me". That is the remark of one where "one comes before the many". A person who does not care if he/she infects someone else and kills them, as long as he/she is not inconvenienced!

3) There is NO data nor observations that a mask makes asthma worse.

knownothing

WELL SAID

ahmetdouas

Well my 'study' says it makes me uncomfortable, and the British government understands my reasoning and accepts it. That's fine by me. Can't make everyone happy, certainly not CNN at least who was openly criticising how few people in the UK wear face coverings in their main article earlier today. I guess they had nothing better to complain about today.

Generally people who are intolerant and criticise the most are the ones who have less knowledge in the first place.

PaulMSN

Masks make everyone uncomfortable, but I guess you'll cling to your 'bone spur' excuse as a way of getting out of doing what you know you should be doing.

ahmetdouas

No it's not that. If I am allowed to, I will not wear one. Simple. I am not making up the fact that I am asthmatic, and it certainly is not an excuse, it's a valid reason accepted by the authorities and airlines.

People need to learn how to be more tolerant.