I see your point!;) I guess everything takes/consumes energy, in some form or another!

ok let's talk about Maurice Strong instead...he is a shyster.

Come on man, it's fun. ;)

@:-) - exhibit A, this is a lightbulb, it takes energy. It's emoticon has a smiley in it, therefore it is fun. Wow, no wonder I aced my Logic class. :D

Really? Take a step back and think about that one for a minute.

Tree --> Pulp --> Paper
Ink --> Printing
Card --> boxed
Boxes of cards --> Distributed to warehouse --> POS
Person buys card, brings home

Person mails card.
Mailbox --> mail carrier --> post office --> sorting facility ---> depending on distance, other sorting facilities --> recipients post office --> mail delivery vehicle --> person receives card.

Person :rolleyes: at card, displays on mantel --> person throws away card --> card sent to recycling facility. End of life.

I know sending an e-card isn't as simple as firing up the ol' crashputer and ordering a TAB, but in terms of energy and resources, it's not even close.

Well, here's a really cute e-card I received today! (Don't look if you prefer paper!):D
ttp://ak.imgag.com/imgag/product/preview/flash/pdShell.swf?ihost=http://ak.imgag.com/imgag&brandldrPath=/product/full/el/&cardNum=/product/full/ap/3173936/graphic1

Co.com was willing to rebook me back into R inventory (apparently I got the EUA :D) on the new date with no change fee. Right up until the end when it bombed out. I'm on with co.com support now and they seem to be able to make it happen.

Sure, its fun. But I deal with it 9-5 M-F. I come to the Box to escape it.

Dirty Canuck. :mad::mad::rolleyes::mad:

It is hard to quantify exactly how many megawatts that one card costs in power, but I know our facility uses 4 megawatts almost continually...

Boy, I stepped away for 10 minutes, and I see that I started something. :rolleyes:

I thought you did emergency services, now it is energy, you are so diverse ^

Yep he is a dirty canuck, somehow I knew you'd bring it all around.

Define your facility.

Yeah, the energy life-cycle of a card is probably in the watts range, not the MW when you amortize out the utilization of the equipment. If all that was done for just one card, I wouldn't be vacationing in the Maldives next summer. Or, if I was, I'd better get my Scuba cert. @:-)

your wasteful ecard, it uses less power than the box and out postings, but it is BAD. The B:rolleyes::-: on the other hand, we bought carbon credits and are fine. We paid for a trash barrel burning operation in china to move to another city, so our credits are offset!

But what if the paper is recycled? How far is the card going? What if the ink is recycled ink?

Your point is well taken, but again the variables are too hard to quantify. Server rooms are always running, web providers are always running and both of those require enormous amounts of energy. Then, do you take into account the fact that it took energy to lay the fiber between hubs? And you see where this discussion devolves.



Anyway, I am not an e-card person, just send me an e-mail if you're going to send an e-card. At least my chances of getting a virus from some random link on my Windows computer go down. Let's not forget that it actually takes someone some time to write a note, a real note, in pen, on a card. I think there is value in that.

Did someone say energy?

Facility, 60,000 sq ft of servers and more servers, along with some fiber to keep them online.