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Steph3n Nov 5, 2009 9:12 am


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 12771810)
Speaking of tax codes, I'm trying to figure out what a civil engineeer would do working for the IRS. I noticed they are hireing CE's.

building monuments with paper!

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Nov 5, 2009 9:13 am


Originally Posted by Phudnik (Post 12772028)
I thought UA fired Air Whisky (who now does most of the US regional flying out of PHL, having put $$$ into the US/HP merger). Also, don't non-revs have a dress code?

You may be right. I just recalled them being a regional operator at one point.

baglady Nov 5, 2009 9:14 am


Originally Posted by COFreqFlyer (Post 12770936)
I'm officially MM this morning.

^ Congrats!!!!!

Hartmann Nov 5, 2009 9:15 am


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 12772031)
Unfortunately their A318 only visits Houston on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

I can fly on Tuesday. Even more tempting.

sdm1130 Nov 5, 2009 9:17 am


Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 12772055)
I can fly on Tuesday. Even more tempting.

If it's not much more expensive, I think you found a winning plan. ^

A318s are nice and rare...

Steph3n Nov 5, 2009 9:17 am


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 12771880)
Great, looks like the corporate-owned politicians have found their angle for combatting Net Neutrality. They're gonna wrap their opposition in the flag and call it an abominable government takeover of teh intertoobz and an impingement of free speech. :rolleyes:

ALCO, I don't agree with Mccain on much, didn't even know it was mccain (until i did a quote and saw url, I did not click the url) as i don't agree with govt at all much, but it is exactly that. Net neutrality is a farce. I am a provider of internet services that pushes content out, not owning the lines, and I fully disagree with 'net neutrality' legislation.
it is not a level playing field as they are claiming with this net neutrality, I already pay far far far more for my content to make it to the eyeballs that those of google that are pushing for this, they say they are being.....oh I don't really want to get into it unless you really care. I pay MORE, 100's of times more than the likes of google, and I am not complaining. It is the cost of doing business, I have to buy the internet connections to get the content out.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Nov 5, 2009 9:22 am


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 12772073)
ALCO, I don't agree with Mccain on much, didn't even know it was mccain (until i did a quote) as i don't agree with govt at all much, but it is exactly that. Net neutrality is a farce. I am a provider of internet services that pushes content out, not owning the lines, and I fully disagree with 'net neutrality' legislation.
it is not a level playing field as they are claiming with this net neutrality, I already pay far far far more for my content to make it to the eyeballs that those of google that are pushing for this, they say they are being.....oh I don't really want to get into it unless you really care.

I do care. I think that expansion of throttling will drive smaller players out of business and/or greatly increase costs that will eventually be passed on to end-users. Whether Net Neutrality as presently conceived is the best possible solution to this dilemma is certainly open to debate. However, I don't think throttling will be a net positive for smaller businesses and end-users of teh toobz. I think it will result in a small number of established firms having a stranglehold on meaningful access to the network, which they can use as an anti-competitive weapon to protect their own business and drive others out of business.

ETA - IMO, throttling is an artificial and unnecessary layer of complexity added to the network for the sole purpose of squeezing revenue out of users. It is a stealth internet tax that benefits only a few large corporations.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Nov 5, 2009 9:23 am


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 12772064)
If it's not much more expensive, I think you found a winning plan. ^

A318s are nice and rare...

I was fortunate enough to snag one on AF twice. They seem to like sending them to German destinations (STR and MUC were my flights).

Steph3n Nov 5, 2009 9:26 am


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 12772112)
I do care. I think that expansion of throttling will drive smaller players out of business and/or greatly increase costs that will eventually be passed on to end-users. Whether Net Neutrality as presently conceived is the best possible solution to this dilemma is certainly open to debate. However, I don't think throttling will be a net positive for smaller businesses and end-users of teh toobz. I think it will result in a small number of established firms having a stranglehold on meaningful access to the network, which they can use as an anti-competitive weapon to protect their own business and drive others out of business.

Throttling has almost nothing to do with net neutrality to be honest :D having caps on net up front is not an issue, in fact it is a core of my business. I sell x level of services at one tier, then another. the net has to be throttled at some level or it would simply not work. there is more committed bandwidth to consumers than available backhaul.

Olton Hall Nov 5, 2009 9:26 am

Judging by posts, the DO people are back on the plane and heading back to FRA.

Hartmann Nov 5, 2009 9:32 am


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 12772143)
Throttling has almost nothing to do with net neutrality to be honest :D having caps on net up front is not an issue, in fact it is a core of my business. I sell x level of services at one teir, then another. the net has to be throttled at some level or it would simply not work. there is more commited bandwidth to consumers than available backhaul.

Selling bandwidth and throttling are two separate issues.

Phudnik Nov 5, 2009 9:33 am


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 12771967)
Have you flown Frontier? If they have a similarly priced one-way, you could do them on the return.


Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 12772007)
Haven't done F9... hmmm

F9 isn't bad, though now that other airlines have live TV their main selling point isn't as big a deal. Fly them now before Republic replaces them with E175s... :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 12771880)
abominable government takeover of teh intertoobz

Remind me again who spent the money to develop the Internet?

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Nov 5, 2009 9:34 am


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 12772143)
Throttling has almost nothing to do with net neutrality to be honest

Teh Wikipedia Disagrees.

sdm1130 Nov 5, 2009 9:36 am


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 12772215)

Yeah, so would almost everyone else in the know.

Sounds like someone in The Box needs to read up on their facts a little before posting...

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Nov 5, 2009 9:36 am


Originally Posted by Phudnik (Post 12772202)
Remind me again who spent the money to develop the Internet?

Al Gore, when he was working as a Secret Agent for DARPA. :D


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