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Olton Hall Jun 17, 2009 6:49 pm


Originally Posted by fozz (Post 11925730)
Ok, lucky had an amazingly entertaining flight. Check it out here.

Well it is sterile. :rolleyes: That's just nasty.

ConciergeMike Jun 17, 2009 6:55 pm


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 11925760)
I should mention that I've never flown WN. My feelings of :rolleyes: have only been brought on by observing the things that a non-WN flyer can observe.

I have no intention of ever experiencing them first hand.

Not saying that you specifically are, but I think some of the gripes about WN are legitimate and some are nothing more than basic class warfare. Many legacy flyers bring a superior attitude toward WN (and their partisans) because there's no lounge, no F, no seat assignments, etc.

Olton Hall Jun 17, 2009 6:56 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 11925685)
Much beer tonight, and at the Yankee game. Overall, quite a good night. ^

That reminds me I need to look into getting tickets to Citi Field to check that place out.

sdm1130 Jun 17, 2009 7:00 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11925823)
Not saying that you specifically are, but I think some of the gripes about WN are legitimate and some are nothing more than basic class warfare. Many legacy flyers bring a superior attitude toward WN (and their partisans) because there's no lounge, no F, no seat assignments, etc.

I'll be the first to admit that these are some of the (many) reasons why I will never fly WN. However, for me, it has nothing to do with class warfare and everything to do with personal comfort and my enjoyment of accessing lounges and sitting in F or an assigned seat in the back.

ConciergeMike Jun 17, 2009 7:08 pm


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 11925843)
I'll be the first to admit that these are some of the (many) reasons why I will never fly WN. However, for me, it has nothing to do with class warfare and everything to do with personal comfort and my enjoyment of accessing lounges and sitting in F or an assigned seat in the back.

All fair criticisms. It's when I see the people who post things like "the terminal is great for WN paxwatching" that drives me nuts. People like that are the people for whom airline status extends mistakenly into their real life. If I fly them and find them to be as untenable as some people have made them out to be, fine. But I'm willing to give them a chance, so long as it's not a trip where thousands of miles would be at stake.

sbm12 Jun 17, 2009 7:09 pm

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Originally Posted by sdm1130

Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11925823)
Not saying that you specifically are, but I think some of the gripes about WN are legitimate and some are nothing more than basic class warfare. Many legacy flyers bring a superior attitude toward WN (and their partisans) because there's no lounge, no F, no seat assignments, etc.

I'll be the first to admit that these are some of the (many) reasons why I will never fly WN. However, for me, it has nothing to do with class warfare and everything to do with personal comfort and my enjoyment of accessing lounges and sitting in F or an assigned seat in the back.

When in a competitieve market and the price is right WN and the lack of assigned seats is worth taking. It just isn't as bad as the rap it gets, IMO. There are morons on every plane and having an assigned seat I even in the F cabin - doesn't guarantee that you won't be sitting next to one of them anyways.

sdm1130 Jun 17, 2009 7:12 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11925881)
All fair criticisms. It's when I see the people who post things like "the terminal is great for WN paxwatching" that drives me nuts.

In many cases, how is this any different from calling an inexperienced traveler a "Kettle"? While some people will look down at another traveler just because they are flying WN, many will just get a kick out of watching a much less experienced traveler figure out the whole airport/travel experience. I'll let you decide which category I fall in to when I say:

"PBI is great for WN paxwatching."

:D

sbm12 Jun 17, 2009 7:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Olton Hall

Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 11925685)
Much beer tonight, and at the Yankee game. Overall, quite a good night. ^

That reminds me I need to look into getting tickets to Citi Field to check that place out.

Way better than the new Yankee stadium. Also, don't try to get anything done between innings at Yankee stadium unless you want to spend a full inning in line. The staff is ridiculously slow.

And, whatever you do, avoid the "knish" at the kosher place by the 200 level. A full beer later and my taste buds still haven't recovered.

If you are serious about going to Citi and are looking to fill a second seat let me know; that is a park worth returning to.

Yeah, the Yankees losing doesn't make it better.

Olton Hall Jun 17, 2009 7:17 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 11925901)
If you are serious about going to Citi and are looking to fill a second seat let me know; that is a park worth returning to.

Looking at next week against STL. Sister coming along but more is more, and merrier, in my book. I'm trying to find a non-rain day next week. :rolleyes:

ConciergeMike Jun 17, 2009 7:19 pm


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 11925894)
In many cases, how is this any different from calling an inexperienced traveler a "Kettle"? While some people will look down at another traveler just because they are flying WN, many will just get a kick out of watching a much less experienced traveler figure out the whole airport/travel experience. I'll let you decide which category I fall in to when I say:

"PBI is great for WN paxwatching."

:D

In many cases it isn't. Some people use "Kettle" as a quasi-joke, and some people use it as a pejorative.

I'm all for watching the inexperienced travelers, and if I can get around them so they are not impeding my forward progress, so much the better. If I'm not intruding on a private conversation, I'll even help people out if they are willing to be helped. There are people who are unwilling to be helped and I get enjoyment out of watching them stink up the joint.

Brituchenite Jun 17, 2009 7:23 pm


Originally Posted by GIGFY (Post 11925342)
LOL.

Was in Bicester today (pronounced 'Bisster'), and when I say bloody hell, as I often do, my FL colleagues love it!

My flight 'routes' seem always to raise a smile too!

:)

LOL! Bisster it is! My friends always fall about laughing when I say "Oh, bugger" (same way American's would say "oh, darn it" or something to that effect).




Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11925344)
Are they "routes" or are they "sectors"?

No they are not "rowts", they are "roots" !!!

Olton Hall Jun 17, 2009 7:23 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11925920)
There are people who are unwilling to be helped and I get enjoyment out of watching them stink up the joint.

WN is full of them and that's what makes so many WN passengers seem :rolleyes: in my book. Yes I do help inexperience travels all the time and many ask me questions that I'm all to happy to answer.

sdm1130 Jun 17, 2009 7:24 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 11925901)
Also, don't try to get anything done between innings at Yankee stadium unless you want to spend a full inning in line. The staff is ridiculously slow.

Ugh - so true. The new Stadium was very disappointing for me. It's a nice, modern stadium but that's part of my problem with it. The nostalgia is gone and the only "history" that the place represents is the game they played the night before. The overpriced, in your face, commercial feel the place has doesn't help much either. :(



Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 11925901)
Yeah, the Yankees losing doesn't make it better.

Against the worst team in baseball (and almost the worst in baseball history!)... :rolleyes:

Brituchenite Jun 17, 2009 7:24 pm


Originally Posted by cheepneezy (Post 11925663)
I had to explain to a friend today that the September 11th fee is not a penalty fee because she is flying on September 11.:o

Too funny!

ConciergeMike Jun 17, 2009 7:27 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 11925901)

And, whatever you do, avoid the "knish" at the kosher place by the 200 level. A full beer later and my taste buds still haven't recovered.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/dinin...l#post11925953


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