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HeathrowGuy Nov 16, 2010 8:20 pm

Thumbs up to OnePass and Mileage Plus offering the best upgrade benefits of any major frequent-flyer programs on Earth.

vandalby Nov 16, 2010 8:40 pm


Originally Posted by HeathrowGuy (Post 15165766)
Thumbs up to OnePass and Mileage Plus offering the best upgrade benefits of any major frequent-flyer programs on Earth.

Well...except for the current Mileage Plus program.

TWA Fan 1 Nov 16, 2010 8:43 pm


Originally Posted by vandalby (Post 15166042)
Well...except for the current Mileage Plus program.

Or DL SkyMiles, or AA (if you're ExpPlat), or US (if you're Chairman status)...

Motorskills Nov 16, 2010 8:57 pm


On Dec. 31, 2011, elite miles and elite points earned in 2011 will be combined and count toward your 2012 elite status in the new program. For example: if you have 45,000 EQMs with OnePass and 10,000 EQM with Mileage Plus, your balance on Dec. 31 will be 55,000 EQM.
What about (regular) miles earned before 2011, I assume they will just be bundled in, and I will be able to spend them from a joint pool in 2012?

Will any miles I have earned (with UA) count towards MM?
(Although I believe this area is still unknown, correct?)

meFIRST Nov 16, 2010 9:26 pm

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JSlo Nov 16, 2010 9:42 pm


Originally Posted by HeathrowGuy (Post 15165766)
Thumbs up to OnePass and Mileage Plus offering the best upgrade benefits of any major frequent-flyer programs on Earth.

This post is just as laughable on this forum as it is on the UA forum.

So far in the post Mileage Plus/Smisek era I have LOST benefits from what was once the best FF program.

If E+ goes...what exactly are the differentiating factors? There are none.

In fact with AA, I will get 8eVIPs at 100k good on any fare, better than 6SWU good on some expensive fares with no sure thing upgrade/no refund and 2 CR's good to only some places. If I fail upgrade with either I end up in Y anyway so...without E+ for my soft landing...why would I put up with crap IFE and no WiFi on an airline without any legroom improvement?

No angst here, just looking for a better program. I guess I am leaving your "best upgrade benefits in the world" behind for you to enjoy for yourself. See ya on the dAArkside.

Also, it's quite amusing to see the COolaid crowd seeing this as more neutral or even improvement, as compared to MP folks whose program is being devalued and are steamed, and will soon show Simsek and Co how hard you will fight for loyal fliers outside of Houston.

You ain't in Texas any more big boy!

meFIRST Nov 16, 2010 9:59 pm


Originally Posted by JSlo (Post 15166867)
crap IFE and no WiFi on an airline without any legroom improvement?
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You ain't in Texas any more big boy!

By CRAP IFE you mean the Dallas Symphony Orchestra? (a regular selection on trAAsh) . Or the non existant IFE on MD-80s, or the ghetto cigarette adapters? What does Arpey want me to do with it, light up?

Or the non existant direct tv?

Considering AA's IFE's system can't even connect to my ipod touch/iphone (available on CO+UA), I would hardly call the system crap. If you didn't know an IFE system could do that, you don't know what crap is.

The IFE on AA isn't much to shout about, I would say probably the best thing about it is the Bose Noise canceling headsets. I bring my own.

MarkXS Nov 16, 2010 10:12 pm


Originally Posted by tester321 (Post 15158787)
AWhat might not be so obvious is that what United is CURRENTLY doing -- giving 2 regionals for flying 10,000 miles in a calendar quarter -- is EVEN BETTER for current OnePass elites, since you can earn up to 8 regionals without getting to 75K.

Huh? Under UA's current program, you're not eligible to earn CR1s until you become 1K. How do you figure you can earn up to 8 without getting to 75K?

Don't say carryover elites in Q1 of a year: UA status has expired in January for 2 or 3 years now, which means miles flown "this year" as a "Last year 1K" don't get you anything. The CR1 sweep isn't until February or March, and you're not 1K yet at that point.

Yeah, if you made 1K in 2009 for the 2010 year, then you could 8 CR1s by end-December 2010 (really January 2011) while flying only 40,000 UA BIS miles, if you made sure that there were 10K in each quarter. But you'd end up in 2011's program (old version) as a 2P with no more CR1s, no SWUs, and in practice no EUA/UDU chance.

As I posted in the UA thread on this, for normally sub-1K UA, sub-Plat CO flyers, the new program is a much better deal. Gives the 25-40K-something flyer incentive to go for 50K EQM. Since 1K (2008-2009 programs) and CO Plat (2009-2010 programs) isn't my "natural" travel pattern anymore, I like these changes.

dmurphynj Nov 16, 2010 10:22 pm

Interesting.... Just got the email about the changes, and it said this:

"One change that will impact you directly is that after next year, the Presidential Platinum Elite program will be replaced by United Global Services®. Rest assured, you will receive all the benefits and services associated with Presidential Platinum through Jan. 31, 2012."

I don't think I'm a Pres Plat Elite.... Just a lowly Gold. Glitch in the email system or has my spend pushed me over the top somehow (I doubt that highly....)

My wife - who's a non-elite - didn't have that phrase in her email...

Weird. Guess my definition of "impacting me directly" is different than the system's.... Unless I should be waiting by the mailbox for a new card ;)

tegelad Nov 16, 2010 10:51 pm

So ... as for me I have about 6 more weeks of air travel and will need to use (sigh elite maximizer on 1 week to make 100K [versus what I was planning of long haul transcon with B fare]) ..

I am contemplating not finishing my time on CO with 100K and SWU's to swap back to AA ... versus maybe doing it ... what are your guys thoughts on this?

+-ADT

JSlo Nov 16, 2010 10:52 pm


Originally Posted by meFIRST (Post 15167038)
By CRAP IFE you mean the Dallas Symphony Orchestra? (a regular selection on trAAsh) . Or the non existant IFE on MD-80s, or the ghetto cigarette adapters? What does Arpey want me to do with it, light up?

Or the non existant direct tv?

Considering AA's IFE's system can't even connect to my ipod touch/iphone (available on CO+UA), I would hardly call the system crap. If you didn't know an IFE system could do that, you don't know what crap is.

The IFE on AA isn't much to shout about, I would say probably the best thing about it is the Bose Noise canceling headsets. I bring my own.

By crap IFE I mean no WiFi, no DirectTV, fuzzy little screens in the front of cabins or 5 inch drop down screens every 5 rows. I mean no power ports in Y. Basically other than ch. 9 and E+, UA's Y is pretty stale even compared to competitors. I've become accustomed to using my iPad and have enjoyed being my own personal entertainment czar for flights. Given that I would do the same for example flying the dAArkside. Does AA have inflight wifi? I really only use UA Y for the E+ benefit. There are no other incentives.

As far as hooking up your ipod to something on UA in Y, I think you might be mixed up. No way to plug anything in or hook anything up in Y on UA. C or F in the new configuration on a widebody, sure. But not in Y.

travelguy70 Nov 16, 2010 11:15 pm

I have not read all the postings in here. But maybe someone can clarify. I read what Scott has posted and the email I got from CO too. So are there any changes on the upgrades with bf and using miles/cash?? Can anyone elaborate for me, thanks!!

mike_plat Nov 16, 2010 11:26 pm


Originally Posted by travelguy70 (Post 15167590)
I have not read all the postings in here. But maybe someone can clarify. I read what Scott has posted and the email I got from CO too. So are there any changes on the upgrades with bf and using miles/cash?? Can anyone elaborate for me, thanks!!

I think that stays the same. The announcement pertained to the SWU's gained at different elite tiers.

raehl311 Nov 17, 2010 1:24 am


Originally Posted by tester321 (Post 15158787)
Although I haven't read all the comments, some seem to be saying this is "better" for OnePass people.

What might not be so obvious is that what United is CURRENTLY doing -- giving 2 regionals for flying 10,000 miles in a calendar quarter -- is EVEN BETTER for current OnePass elites, since you can earn up to 8 regionals without getting to 75K.

I have no objection to giving "more" to people who fly more (e.g., maybe give 4 per quarter if you fly 20K, etc.) but all this does is postpone them and limit their number for the average 75K or 100K flier (probably the idea).

Yes, Continental people are better off, but they could be even BETTER off...something not to be forgotten.

Sillyness.

More CR1s or less CR1s has NO BEARING AT ALL on the overall benefits of the elite program, because they have no bearing on the number of F seats on the planes. They just change who gets the F seats.

More CR1s are better for lower-tier elites. More CR1s are bad for higher tier elites, because the easier CR1s are to get, the more low-tier elites can hop ahead of high-tier elites in EUA. That's all there is to it.


If you're top-tier elite, you want CR1s to die entirely.

raehl311 Nov 17, 2010 2:39 am


Originally Posted by Live4Upgrade (Post 15163218)
:td::td::td::td::td:

Why treat half of UA/CO customer base one way and the other half (CO) worse?

1K should be unified across UA/CO from Mar 2011.

If UA/CO wants us to think of them as one airline that is coming together, give us some good reasons to think that.

It's a practical problem. Adding an elite tier requires software changes. They can't jut bump CO Plat to 100k without pissing the 75ks off, and they can't just throw a 75k teir in on UA either.

So we're stuck with what we've got for now.


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