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golfingboy Nov 17, 2010 6:06 pm


Originally Posted by dsweet (Post 15178179)
In this month I passed the million mile threshold (now of great future uncertainty), 100,000 eqms (unusable SWUs)

FWIW, the SWUs you earned this year WILL be eligible from any fare class :)

So, this month isn't too bad I guess :p But for next year, that is a different story!

Congrats on reaching the 1MM threshold. Actually, UA's 1MM threshold is better than CO's IMO... Lifetime Premier Executive vs Lifetime Silver, so with that being said I cannot really imagine that they will change or devalue 1MM benefits that much from the CO side...

sbm12 Nov 17, 2010 6:06 pm


Originally Posted by marklyon (Post 15178085)
Even with the updated email, I am unclear if this year's SWUs will work for the "disallowed bucket" EWR->PEK tickets I wanted to book today (for travel next May).

Yes, they will. CO SWUs issued in 2010 have no fare restrictions.

mbreuer Nov 17, 2010 7:00 pm


Originally Posted by golfingboy (Post 15161948)
Thank you for taking the time to answer some of our questions! I have one quick question :p

Yes, Thanks!


Originally Posted by golfingboy (Post 15161948)
So that means the CR-1s/RUs will be prioritized behind B-ups and mileage upgrades? I am assuming R class is a subset of ZE, but what do I know :D


Originally Posted by golfingboy (Post 15162616)
I am still a little confused with ZE and R, so apologies here. I know ZE is for Y/B/M-Ups and R is for pretty much everything else. So, before releasing R, CO will run EUA for ZE first to upgrade those on instant uprade fares?

With that logic, naturally I would assume that we will never see R inventory when ZE is zeroed out [but there can be as many ZEs and Rs, i.e. F5 ZE4 R4 and any upgrades will eat into both ZE and R, but never F5 ZE0 R4].

AS upgrades everything into U, hence my ignorance, so be patient with me :o
After a few roundtrips I should have a good understanding of how everything works :D


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 15176996)
:confused:

The CR1s are a way to confirm an upgrade in advance, just like using miles. If you don't want to use them you can wait for UDU/EUA to run. Just like SWUs replace miles+copay.

So from my standpoint, the RU's are worth less than the 15k miles one might use as an alternative (the 15k miles can be used for other things as well).

For those unfamiliar, "R" is the fare class that mileage upgrades & EUAs book into on CO non BF routes.

I've been able to snag a transcon upgrade using miles once in a while, but it's pretty rare. Typically, you've got to waitlist. Last week, I managed to get to #1 on the list with a mileage upgrade sfo-ewr.

So in my humble opinion, I'd rather have extra drink coupons than the regional upgrade if it books into R.

If however it worked like a y-up (or even b-up) at time of use, that would be a valuable benefit.

cova Nov 17, 2010 7:03 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 15176996)
The CR1s are a way to confirm an upgrade in advance, just like using miles. If you don't want to use them you can wait for UDU/EUA to run. Just like SWUs replace miles+copay.

Are the CR1s - oneway or RT upgrades?

With these new CR1s, CO is going back to the late 1980s when you earned upgrade certificates every 5K or 10K miles depending on level. CO eventually simplified the process with EUA.

I guess CR1s are electronic counts in your account - so once the software is in place it is automatic (ie - no paper coupons).

But with all the new levels and now the CR1s plus the Y/B/M ups, upgrades are going to get harder to get. People on cheap fares will use their CR1s, those on more expensive codes will likely hope for EUA/UDU.

sbm12 Nov 17, 2010 7:22 pm


Originally Posted by cova (Post 15179979)
Are the CR1s - oneway or RT upgrades?

One way.

Originally Posted by mbreuer (Post 15179955)
So from my standpoint, the RU's are worth less than the 15k miles one might use as an alternative (the 15k miles can be used for other things as well).

Assuming they can be used into norther South America, Central America or the Caribbean - which is quite possible - they'd be worth a bit more. And they aren't taking much away in exchange for them. Even if you only value them at 15K points each that would be $150ish. I think trading that for a couple $6 drinks is probably a bad investment decision.


Originally Posted by mbreuer (Post 15179955)
If however it worked like a y-up (or even b-up) at time of use, that would be a valuable benefit.

Not gonna happen.

cova Nov 17, 2010 7:25 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 15180244)
One way.

How many segments are allowed in the one way?

sims75 Nov 17, 2010 7:34 pm

i read several pages of this thread but could not find the answer to my question.

Q is: Would 100k miles earned on CO Onepass this year receive SWU (system wide upgrade) certificates for next year? I have not received these in the past - I did reach 75k miles last year.

Thanks.

sbm12 Nov 17, 2010 7:34 pm


Originally Posted by cova (Post 15180282)
How many segments are allowed in the one way?

I would imagine "per direction" just like mileage upgrades.

mbreuer Nov 17, 2010 7:35 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 15180244)
One way.

Assuming they can be used into norther South America, Central America or the Caribbean - which is quite possible - they'd be worth a bit more. And they aren't taking much away in exchange for them. Even if you only value them at 15K points each that would be $150ish. I think trading that for a couple $6 drinks is probably a bad investment decision.


Not gonna happen.

IK it's not gonna happen. My flights booked into economy are basically split between those that I get EUA as gold, and those where I can't get an upgrade using my spouse's platinum miles.

Given that if I get any RU's the only value is likely to be gifting upgrades to those without status on popular leisure routes (EWR-MIA).

Ok - drink coupons not much (depending on how many of course)... but I don't value these at 15k miles, either, and I suspect that many of us are going to see them go unused.

mnmag Nov 17, 2010 7:37 pm


Originally Posted by sims75 (Post 15180441)
i read several pages of this thread but could not find the answer to my question.

Q is: Would 100k miles earned on CO Onepass this year receive SWU (system wide upgrade) certificates for next year? I have not received these in the past - I did reach 75k miles last year.

Thanks.

I believe the answer is yes -- you will receive 4 SWUs for 100K EQMs earned by 12/31/10. This is new this year & only applies to those who've hit 100K!

cova Nov 17, 2010 7:40 pm


Originally Posted by mnmag (Post 15180492)
I believe the answer is yes -- you will receive 4 SWUs for 100K EQMs earned by 12/31/10. This is new this year & only applies to those who've hit 100K!

And those SWUs have to be used by 12/31/11.

100K EQM in 2010 - earns 4 SWUs valid on any fare. Need restricted R class availability, valid from time the 4 SWUs post until 2/29/12.
100K EQM in 2011 - earns 6 SWUs on higher fare codes only. R class availability is still a requirement. These need to be used one year from date issued.

sims75 Nov 17, 2010 7:40 pm


Originally Posted by mnmag (Post 15180492)
I believe the answer is yes -- you will receive 4 SWUs for 100K EQMs earned by 12/31/10. This is new this year & only applies to those who've hit 100K!

Thanks for the quick reply!

This is good to hear - I used to envy the AA flyers until now.

okrogius Nov 17, 2010 7:42 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 15172031)
This will probably be the hardest part of the adjustment for me.

If you haven't already signed up for MP, take a look at pre-printed sign up forms (might be able to find some at your local airport). They already have a number pre-assigned, so you might be able to find something that's easy to remember. Or of course you might get lucky with the internet sign up.

golfingboy Nov 17, 2010 7:44 pm


Originally Posted by mbreuer (Post 15179955)

If however it worked like a y-up (or even b-up) at time of use, that would be a valuable benefit.


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 15180244)
Not gonna happen.


CR1s, from my POV, will be our "get out of jail" card... So, will CO start releasing R space weeks in advance for those who are on the waitlist with CR1s? If CR1s are going to be behind Y/B/M and mileage upgrades then it is worthless IMO.

I.E. Release R space along with ZE space in advance, then at around 7 days out zero out R space to preserve ZE and F space for elites in Y/B/M and paid F customers.

cova Nov 17, 2010 7:47 pm


Originally Posted by golfingboy (Post 15180598)
I.E. Release R space along with ZE space in advance, then at around 7 days out zero out R space to preserve ZE and F space for elites in Y/B/M and paid F customers.

My experience with CO has been that R class (except for some key markets) is generally available for domestic flights several months in advance. But when EUA time arrives R will many times go away.


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