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rolov Nov 16, 2010 9:04 am


Originally Posted by fozz (Post 15155139)
I can say I'm quite pleased. Thanks Scott!

Do you happen to know if the existing UA SWUs will be good on CO flights anytime soon?

Do a search :rolleyes::D

The ability to use these on United-operated flights is a priority for us, and we look forward to introducing that capability in the coming year.

mnmag Nov 16, 2010 9:06 am


Originally Posted by rolov (Post 15155783)
Do a search :rolleyes::D

He's asking about existing UA SWUs -- not the CO ones!;)

radonc1 Nov 16, 2010 9:09 am


Originally Posted by J.Edward (Post 15155492)
. This is an area when I think CO can learn from UA/AA/DL in offering E+ so there's at least enough seats with decent legroom to accommodate elites and offer a free drink/prepackaged food item for upper elites in the back.

JEdward
I think you have this backwards. CO should have E+ to offer to the non-elite. You could package TV, baggage and a food item (a certain dollar amount) with the E+ seat and sell it to all at a premium (but less than the sum of the parts). This may very well please CO who seems to be interested in selling just about anything that isn't nailed down. '
Heck, CO already has the elites in their pocket. Why would they want to give the elites even more bennies?

sbm12 Nov 16, 2010 9:10 am


Originally Posted by rubenj (Post 15155775)
Scott: I know the programs would remain separate, but what would be the priority for upgrades for a CO elite flying UA metal and viceversa?

I do not think that any changes are announced to the current order at this time.


Originally Posted by rubenj (Post 15155775)
Any news on when CO Plat 100k would be at the same level of 1K on UA metal?

Most likely 2012 since CO isn't going to recognize that level until then based on the initial post in this thread.

TWA Fan 1 Nov 16, 2010 9:10 am


Originally Posted by J.Edward (Post 15155773)
If they do rip out E+ the level of reaction from the general elite base, to say nothing of the FTers, will be apocalyptic. UA flyers have had E+ for a decade now and I doubt they can be bribed with whatever faux giveback is offered for the removal of E+.

The DL FTers launched a major campaign over SkyMiles when Mullin pooped all over it to the extent where the negative changes were in time rescinded and if CO does decide to pull E+ for cost, I sure hope they figured in the customer backlash (as in marching down Wacker with torches and pitchforks, protesting stockholder meetings, and other such cute activities) in their computations because it's going to be ugly.

I hope you're right, but who knows? With so much consolidation in the airline industry where are all those angry, pitchfork-wielding GS's going to? Spirit Airlines? Sun Country? USA 3000?

Really the only U.S. carrier that currently has a more-or-less comparable product to E+ is B6. The only place where B6 competes with a portion of the combined UaCo conglomerate is in NYC, and certainly Smisek et al could easily argue that B6 has had virtually no impact on CO here.

If they deep-six E+ there will be clearly have to be some kind of faux or pseudo-faux benefit. On the low end it could be something as ridiculous as "changing the upgrade priority," which is well-established as a joke anyway. On the high end, they might add a row of FC to the UA Airbuses (which, frankly, I think is doubtful).

Again, the complete, Soviet-level blackout of information on E+ is not a good sign...

nova08 Nov 16, 2010 9:10 am

Additionally, what will the upgrade order be on CO flights with this new 100k priority? Will flyers with 100k in 2011 take priority, but 100k flyers (1K) in 2010 will still be behind CO plats at 75k?

gbryan84 Nov 16, 2010 9:12 am


Originally Posted by rubenj (Post 15155775)
Any news on when CO Plat 100k would be at the same level of 1K on UA metal?

Great question.^

bmvaughn Nov 16, 2010 9:12 am

If they deep-six E+, leisure flyers like myself will find other ways to spend our discretionary income.

mbreuer Nov 16, 2010 9:16 am

What fare class do the RU's book into? If "R" is required then they're not so hot... if any seat up front (like Y-UP) that'd be ok.

1bentley Nov 16, 2010 9:17 am

Unless I missed something Plat just got knocked down on the upgrade list behind PP, 100,000, buy ups, & mileage upgrades. With upgrades getting harder and harder this makes Platinum the new Plastic.:td:

J.Edward Nov 16, 2010 9:17 am


Originally Posted by radonc1 (Post 15155847)
I think you have this backwards. CO should have E+ to offer to the non-elite. You could package TV, baggage and a food item (a certain dollar amount) with the E+ seat and sell it to all at a premium (but less than the sum of the parts). This may very well please CO who seems to be interested in selling just about anything that isn't nailed down. '
Heck, CO already has the elites in their pocket. Why would they want to give the elites even more bennies?

Well said ^ -- I certainly did not mean to imply that E+ was solely for elites as you correctly state, many, many options for upsells. :)

channa Nov 16, 2010 9:17 am

Good stuff. At least now they're aligned and we can see what the new program will look like.

It's a hit on the CR1s from a UA perspective, and a hit on the SWU restrictions from the CO perspective. Though for someone flying significant volume, this could be a plus, as there are unlimited CR1s and SWUs that could be earned (e.g., someone flying 200K would get 10 SWUs and 10 CR1s).

That said, I think that UA's Elite Choice program could now be in jeopardy, as they now seem to have incentives for each 25K of flying. In the past, Elite Choice would throw us bones for various levels extra flying.

As an aside, I wonder if the CO CR1s will work on BF Hawaii flights. That would be a great value if they did.

Next question will be who is the first OP member to get their hands on CO CR1s by hitting 75K next year? Paging J.Edward...

sbm12 Nov 16, 2010 9:20 am


Originally Posted by mbreuer (Post 15155959)
What fare class do the RU's book into? If "R" is required then they're not so hot... if any seat up front (like Y-UP) that'd be ok.

I cannot imagine that there will be a different upgrade bucket for the CR1s from the SWUs and mileage upgrades. Just doesn't make sense.

On the plus side, it is worth noting that the two programs even managed to align their stock photography for the announcement of the alignment of the programs. This woman is looking longingly out the window for her elite benefits on both the UA and CO websites:
http://content.united.com/ual/asset/...at_214x253.jpg

mnmag Nov 16, 2010 9:21 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 15156027)

On the plus side, it is worth noting that the two programs even managed to align their stock photography for the announcement of the alignment of the programs. This woman is looking longingly out the window for her elite benefits on both the UA and CO websites:
http://content.united.com/ual/asset/...at_214x253.jpg

LOL!:cool:

sbm12 Nov 16, 2010 9:21 am


Originally Posted by nova08 (Post 15155870)
Additionally, what will the upgrade order be on CO flights with this new 100k priority? Will flyers with 100k in 2011 take priority, but 100k flyers (1K) in 2010 will still be behind CO plats at 75k?

The 100K thing doesn't take effect until 2012. If you got 100K this year you're still just a Platinum who happens to have SWUs.


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