Citicards 60 day/ one application policy
#541
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 84
Nope
Every 60 days you can apply for one personal "travel" card (AAdvantage or Hilton) AND one personal "rewards" card (ThankYou or cash back).
Every 90 days you can apply for one business "travel" card (AAdvantage or Hilton) AND one business "rewards" card (ThankYou or cash back).
In a six month period, you could get 3 personal AAdvantage cards, 2 business AAdvantage cards, 3 personal ThankYou cards, and 2 business ThankYou cards.
That's 10 cards total, maximum, five of those being AAdvange 25k cards.
#542
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,934
From the app perspective, CIit just categorizes "personal" vs "business". They don't count one type of "personal" separately from another type of "personal" as far as this limit is concerned.
*Citi is somehow sloppy about counting to 60, so it's much safer to wait an extra few days. I got rejected once for violating 60 days when I waited "only" 61 days, but once I waited 64 days from the date of the app that was denied, I had no problem applying once again for both an AA MC and an AA Amex within days of each other at that point. (But if someone doesn't know that you have to add a few days to 60 to be on the safe side, I can see how they could get confused about what they're allowed to apply for, especially since Citi isn't particularly willing to spell it out for you.)
I can't speak for business (I never apply for those), but you can certainly apply for at least six AAdvantage 25k cards in about 6 months (the "about" being the fact that you may go a few days over 6 months if you're careful to wait a few days more than 60 each time), if the personal AAdvantage cards are all you're ever applying for.
#543
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Manchester,UK and NYC
Programs: One Pass, BAEC, AA
Posts: 708
If yes, were they for the same business (using your SS number)? Or do you have 2 seperate businesses each with its own TIN?
If this is correct, this would be new info to me, so appreciate your reply to be as specific as possible (ie, when did you apply, for which cards, etc..)
Thanks and Happy New Year
#545
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 84
I am not sure this is correct - have you successfully applied for TWO business cards within 90 days?
If yes, were they for the same business (using your SS number)? Or do you have 2 seperate businesses each with its own TIN?
If this is correct, this would be new info to me, so appreciate your reply to be as specific as possible (ie, when did you apply, for which cards, etc..)
Thanks and Happy New Year
If yes, were they for the same business (using your SS number)? Or do you have 2 seperate businesses each with its own TIN?
If this is correct, this would be new info to me, so appreciate your reply to be as specific as possible (ie, when did you apply, for which cards, etc..)
Thanks and Happy New Year
#546
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 439
If that's what you want. But there's certainly been no problem (for me nor many other people who are only interested in real miles) to instead every 60ish* days apply for two personal AAdvantage cards instead. (I alternate MC and Amex just for my own organizational convenience, but Citi cares not whether you simply apply for the same exact MC -- and nothing else -- over and over again.)
From the app perspective, CIit just categorizes "personal" vs "business". They don't count one type of "personal" separately from another type of "personal" as far as this limit is concerned.
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I can't speak for business (I never apply for those), but you can certainly apply for at least six AAdvantage 25k cards in about 6 months (the "about" being the fact that you may go a few days over 6 months if you're careful to wait a few days more than 60 each time), if the personal AAdvantage cards are all you're ever applying for.
From the app perspective, CIit just categorizes "personal" vs "business". They don't count one type of "personal" separately from another type of "personal" as far as this limit is concerned.
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I can't speak for business (I never apply for those), but you can certainly apply for at least six AAdvantage 25k cards in about 6 months (the "about" being the fact that you may go a few days over 6 months if you're careful to wait a few days more than 60 each time), if the personal AAdvantage cards are all you're ever applying for.
I have always made sure same-day apps are all for different AAdvantage products, and will probably continue to do so to minimize confusion in recordkeeping, but it's interesting that this may not be strictly required.
ivk5
#547
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 439
*Citi is somehow sloppy about counting to 60, so it's much safer to wait an extra few days. I got rejected once for violating 60 days when I waited "only" 61 days, but once I waited 64 days from the date of the app that was denied, I had no problem applying once again for both an AA MC and an AA Amex within days of each other at that point. (But if someone doesn't know that you have to add a few days to 60 to be on the safe side, I can see how they could get confused about what they're allowed to apply for, especially since Citi isn't particularly willing to spell it out for you.)
That said, before I knew better, I got lucky and got a pair of apps approved exactly 60 days after previous apps. They're just inconsistent I guess.
ivk5
#548
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SEA (previous locations: DTW, TLV, EWR, BOS)
Programs: AS: 75K; DL/NW: Plat; DL SC: Lifetime; Hyatt: Diamond; HH: Gold; SPG: Plat;
Posts: 3,383
I'm trying to get about 20K more TYP before the Fixed Flight Redemption option goes away on 3/1/09 per this thread.
Does anybody know how long it takes for points to appear in your TYP account after you open the credit card account and hit the purchase qualifiers?
I'm hoping the points would appear there in, say, 45 days!
Thanks for your input,
Bostonbali
Does anybody know how long it takes for points to appear in your TYP account after you open the credit card account and hit the purchase qualifiers?
I'm hoping the points would appear there in, say, 45 days!
Thanks for your input,
Bostonbali
#549
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Austin
Programs: AA P4L, WN, BA, DL, UA, HHonors, IHG
Posts: 3,485
Somewhere earlier in this lengthy thread, a FlyerTalker mentioned that Citi no longer sends out emails telling you if credit card applications were accepted or denied.
I hadn't seen any, but for fun just searched my GMail spam filter. Result: I found those emails.
I hadn't seen any, but for fun just searched my GMail spam filter. Result: I found those emails.
#550
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,773
TYP will have another big devaluation effective 03/01/09.
Dont know about the business card side. However, as others point out, you can have only AA cards in your mix and Citi does not care.
Last edited by Happy; Jan 3, 2009 at 6:23 pm
#551
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,773
I'm trying to get about 20K more TYP before the Fixed Flight Redemption option goes away on 3/1/09 per this thread.
Does anybody know how long it takes for points to appear in your TYP account after you open the credit card account and hit the purchase qualifiers?
Bostonbali
Does anybody know how long it takes for points to appear in your TYP account after you open the credit card account and hit the purchase qualifiers?
Bostonbali
#552
Join Date: May 2008
Location: MIA-SJO
Programs: AA, UA, DL
Posts: 83
I've been churning Citi/AAdvantage cards for a few months now, after getting my first Citi/AAdvantage card about a year ago. I've been hitting one card every 32 days or so (using Excel to keep track). No problem until this last request (last week), when I got this in the email:
"Why we're writing you
Thank you for applying for the Citi Select(SM) / AAdvantage(R)
American Express(R) account.
Here's what you should know
Unfortunately, we are unable to approve the application at
this time because:
o We have recently opened an account for you. This
includes any of your accounts issued by Citibank (South
Dakota), N.A. such as Visa, MasterCard, store cards,
or gas cards. We invite you to apply again after your
account has been open for at least a year.
We appreciate your interest and we hope to have the opportunity
to serve you in the future.
Sincerely..."
Has anyone seen this before? If so, is there any way around it? Is this new?
Since I've had so many accounts with them, I'm not even sure which one should be a year old. The oldest is probably a year or so. The rest are either canceled or will be once the miles post. Any ideas?
"Why we're writing you
Thank you for applying for the Citi Select(SM) / AAdvantage(R)
American Express(R) account.
Here's what you should know
Unfortunately, we are unable to approve the application at
this time because:
o We have recently opened an account for you. This
includes any of your accounts issued by Citibank (South
Dakota), N.A. such as Visa, MasterCard, store cards,
or gas cards. We invite you to apply again after your
account has been open for at least a year.
We appreciate your interest and we hope to have the opportunity
to serve you in the future.
Sincerely..."
Has anyone seen this before? If so, is there any way around it? Is this new?
Since I've had so many accounts with them, I'm not even sure which one should be a year old. The oldest is probably a year or so. The rest are either canceled or will be once the miles post. Any ideas?
#553
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,773
Shouldn't your spreadsheet tell you?
I've been churning Citi/AAdvantage cards for a few months now, after getting my first Citi/AAdvantage card about a year ago. I've been hitting one card every 32 days or so (using Excel to keep track). No problem until this last request (last week), when I got this in the email:
"Why we're writing you
Thank you for applying for the Citi Select(SM) / AAdvantage(R)
American Express(R) account.
Here's what you should know
Unfortunately, we are unable to approve the application at
this time because:
o We have recently opened an account for you. This
includes any of your accounts issued by Citibank (South
Dakota), N.A. such as Visa, MasterCard, store cards,
or gas cards. We invite you to apply again after your
account has been open for at least a year.
We appreciate your interest and we hope to have the opportunity
to serve you in the future.
Sincerely..."
Has anyone seen this before? If so, is there any way around it? Is this new?
Since I've had so many accounts with them, I'm not even sure which one should be a year old. The oldest is probably a year or so. The rest are either canceled or will be once the miles post. Any ideas?
"Why we're writing you
Thank you for applying for the Citi Select(SM) / AAdvantage(R)
American Express(R) account.
Here's what you should know
Unfortunately, we are unable to approve the application at
this time because:
o We have recently opened an account for you. This
includes any of your accounts issued by Citibank (South
Dakota), N.A. such as Visa, MasterCard, store cards,
or gas cards. We invite you to apply again after your
account has been open for at least a year.
We appreciate your interest and we hope to have the opportunity
to serve you in the future.
Sincerely..."
Has anyone seen this before? If so, is there any way around it? Is this new?
Since I've had so many accounts with them, I'm not even sure which one should be a year old. The oldest is probably a year or so. The rest are either canceled or will be once the miles post. Any ideas?
#554
Join Date: May 2008
Location: MIA-SJO
Programs: AA, UA, DL
Posts: 83
The oldest one is not quite a year old.
That said, I'm not sure which account they want to be a year old, the oldest one (almost there), or the most recent one I applied for (a month old, which will make it to a year because it will be canceled after the miles post).
That said, that's not really the point of the question.
That said, I'm not sure which account they want to be a year old, the oldest one (almost there), or the most recent one I applied for (a month old, which will make it to a year because it will be canceled after the miles post).
That said, that's not really the point of the question.
#555
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,773
The oldest one is not quite a year old.
That said, I'm not sure which account they want to be a year old, the oldest one (almost there), or the most recent one I applied for (a month old, which will make it to a year because it will be canceled after the miles post).
That said, that's not really the point of the question.
That said, I'm not sure which account they want to be a year old, the oldest one (almost there), or the most recent one I applied for (a month old, which will make it to a year because it will be canceled after the miles post).
That said, that's not really the point of the question.
If you dont have a card with an issuer that you use it on a regular basis, but only churn their cards, you will bound to encounter the problem you described, even before the financial crisis.