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Citi Executive AA MasterCard [October 2013 - September 2014]

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For questions NOT related to the application process - such as experiences using benefits - refer to the AA forum thread on this card: AA Citibank Executive / AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard (Master Thread)

Recommended Application Procedure:
Clear cache and cookies prior to applying or use an incognito or private browsing session to apply. Opening multiple different apps in different windows or tabs or failing to clear cookies/cache has resulted in people receiving a lesser offer for some Citi cards. [B]We do not know, and Citi has not indicated, how long these offers will last. Citi has left other offers alive for over a year beyond the 'apply by' date in the past. These links could be here all year or gone tomorrow. If the application loads, it is good, based on past Citi applications that survived past the landing page expiration, regardless of any posted or advertised 'apply by' date.

MOST CURRENT LINKS:

As of 8/19/14, the 60K+ links are no longer working, and give the following error:
A system error has caused a delay in processing your application. Please try again later.

[This link stopped working for a few days in July but seems to be working again] Many thanks to LM225 - Citi AA Executive Personal Mastercard, 100,000 miles after $10,000 spend in 3 months, Admirals Club access for cardholder and family or cardholder and two guests, up to $200 in statement credits. $450 annual fee, not waived. Landing page no longer loads as of 6/24.


The landing page asks for a first and last name but the application loads with or without the landing page. This is a CHIP and Signature card. If you go through the landing page, please use any referral code given to you by an AC rep.

For alternate 100K links, see Post #6084. https://www.citicards.com/cards/acq/...&screenID=3001

Many thanks to lobo411 - Citi AA Executive Personal Mastercard, 75,000 miles after $7500 spend in 3 months, Admirals Club access for cardholder and family or cardholder and two guests, up to $100 in statement credits. $450 annual fee, not waived. No landing page. This is a CHIP and Signature card. Bonus confirmed in posts 136 and 142. Still working: There is also a public version of this offer Citi AA Mastercard, 75,000 miles, Landing page available here. HT Belllaaa.

Many thanks to cerealmarketer - Citi AA Executive Personal Mastercard, 60,000 miles after $5k spend in 3 months, Admirals Club access for cardholder and family or cardholder and two guests. $450 annual fee, not waived. Landing page available here. This is a CHIP and Signature card. Landing page for 60K for $5K, with $100 statement credit and application.

Current 50K public offer: (Be carefull this link is showing as 30k in citi system, use other link for 50k) Landing page for 50K for $5K spending, no statement credit and application.

New 50k offer:
Landing page for New 50K for $5K spending, no statement credit - Application Link WARNING: This landing page contains the following in the Footnotes: "American Airlines AAdvantage® bonus miles are not available if you have had a Citi Executive® / AAdvantage® World EliteTM MasterCard® opened or closed in the past 18 months." But the app link directly following it goes to a totally different app page, which is reported to be working as usual.


EXPEDITED SHIPPING
While reconsideration/application reps do not seem to be aware of this, these cards are expedited and usually arrive 1-2 days after approval.The CSR will not take a request to expedite the card.

Who is eligible for this card? Anyone as long as you can be approved for the minimum $5K credit line, subject to the standard Citi rules of 1 Citi app or card of any kind per 8 days and 2 Citi cards or apps of any kind per 65 days. It is always advisable to wait 65 days from any type of Citi denial before applying for another Citi card. Many have reported getting approved for this card in spite of having several open AA cards over the past year as well as having previously had this card.

Not sure about the 8 and 65 day rules? If your most recent application for any Citi card is less than click here - 8 days ago, you need to wait. Also, if your previous (second-to-last) Citi application is less than click here - 65 days ago, you need to wait. These are not rules published or known by Citi CSRs but rather based on thousands of Citi card applications and datapoints across several threads.

This card can be churned. Recent datapoints concerning multiple Executive cards include posts 917, 1059 and starting at 1365. For in-depth datapoints and advice on churning Citi cards, read and study the extensive wiki posts in the HH thread and the AA Plat/gold thread. Click the plus on the right hand side of the wiki if you do not see the wiki text. Datapoints for bonus points posting on multiple cards include post 2579.


Getting around the $450 annual fee: Some have been able to meet the spending requirement before the first statement posts and then cancel and have the fee refunded after the miles post. Details and datapoints include starting at post 74. T&C state that the card must be cancelled within 30 days of the fee posting to get it refunded. Potential problems with this plans include a very short (1 week or less) first "month" as well as delays in miles posting which have been reported by several FTers here http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...ost-first.html. YMMV. If paying $250-$450 for a year's access to Admirals Clubs and the 60K-100K miles is a deal breaker, this card may not be for you.

Once you cancel the card (within the 37 day window of AF posting) the refund will post on the account between 1-3 business days.

Retention Bonus Offers: User have been offered the following retention bonus offers when calling to cancel the card:

- 5,000 points + $100 credit with $1,500 spend per month for 3 months 5333
- 2 additional club member passes 6862
- 1,000 bonus miles each month for 16 month, min $1k spend/month 6862

Already a member? If you already purchased an AC membership (for example, using the credit from Amex Plat) and apply and are approved for this card, AA will refund you the pro-rated AF from any time left on your membership.

When do miles post? Usually a few days after your statement closes. In some cases your statement will show the correct miles earned but will show 0 miles reported to AA. In this case see this thread.

Please post more experiences about cancelling to avoid the $450 fee


Helpful points from post #3794 and others, especially for those new to Citi:
1) Citi CSRs are clueless, so disregard everything they say that seems to contradict anything you have read on F/T. And take everything else with a big grain of salt. I was told 3 times VERY CLEARLY "You will not got your annual fee refunded" while I was cancelling, but I did get it.

2a) With Citi, if you are approved for a card, and meet the minimum spend requirement, you will get the bonus listed for the offer you applied for. Every time ! Unlike Chase or AMEX, who will send you a card, wait for you to pay the fee and spend, and then say "sorry, you don't qualify for a bonus". If Citi doesn't intend to give you the bonus, they will just deny your app. They won't even do a pull, they will just instantly deny your app. If they send you the card, and you meet the spend on time, you will get the bonus. My attorney insists I add "that could change tomorrow", but from the Big Bang thru today, that has always been true.

2b) Another helpful post discussing timeframe for meeting min spend: 6279

3) Any expectation that Citi will do things that make sense is just plain silly. They won't.

Citibank Contacts/Resources
  • Application status: https://www.accountonline.com/cards/...?screenID=3187
  • (800) 695-5171 – Personal Application Status and Reconsideration Line with live rep
  • (800) 763-9795 – General Personal Application Inquiries with live rep
  • (866) 606-2787 – General Application and Account Questions with live rep
  • (888) 201-4523 – Application status
  • (866) 606-2961 – Reconsideration Line.
  • Twitter : @AskCiti. Very powerful tool.
  • Executive Office - useful for getting a more empowered agent for reconsideration purposes: CitiBank Executive Review Department, P.O. Box 6000, Sioux Falls, SD 57117
Admiral Club Access: You do not need to be flying AA that particular day of travel. (Ex: you're flying DL on the day of travel...you could still enter the AC lounge, even though you're not on an AA flight that day.) Beware, though, that individual lounges have individual rules (see the link below). Alternate rules usually come w/ Qantas lounges, not AA lounges. Furthermore, AC access "comes with" US Air access (19 locations). An authorized user does not have AC access unless they are with the primary card holder. The authorized user's card will have the "Admiral Club" language omitted from the back of their card.

For reference, an AC lounge list: http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...#admirals-club
For questions and discussions on lounge access: Help Desk: Lounge Access and Lounge Access Rules

$200 Statement Credit on any purchase:

Multiple datapoints within this thread as well as multiple confirmations from CSRs say that the $200 statement credit is for any purchase.

Also, please note that these cards do not include the 10% miles rebate offered by some other Citi AA products.

What about the EQM? AA tracks your miles earned on Executive card(s) and adds 10K Elite Qualifying Miles to your EQM balance once you earn 40,000 miles during a calendar year on Executive card(s). Any number of Executive cards can add up to the 40K, and you cannot earn more than 10K EQM each year. No redeemable miles are added, and this is of no consequence or value unless you will also earn at least 15K additional EQM in a given year by flying and 10K will bump you up to the next status level.

Direct phone number to Citi Fraud Prevention department: +18664705331

Concierge service enrollment (allows for electronic requests). Concierge number is +18778812668

Here are the minimum credit limit required amounts in order to keep an account open (for purposes of new card applications and reconsiderations)
Citi Amex 1k (likely citi gold as well)
Citi Visa signature/world MasterCard 3k
Citi World elite Mastercards (including exec) 5k


Advice to those new to citi American Airlines cards,

If you are just starting out please apply and use the lower level citi AA card for a while before moving on to this thread and card. This will help you in the long run in more ways than one. Most of us here have opened and used lower level AA cards before moving on to this thread and card
Also,
Check out this thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi-...ost-first.html
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Citi Executive AA MasterCard [October 2013 - September 2014]

Old Mar 5, 2014, 11:20 am
  #2896  
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 159
Originally Posted by KennyBSAT
A lot of great data points, but just looking for confirmation.

I already have 3 AA cards (2 Amex, 1 Visa). Last cards were applied for in Dec 2012.

I jumped the gun early and applied for AA MC 50k on Jan 1, and was denied for already having an eligible AA card. I know I need to wait 60+ days before applying again to even have a chance.

So my last approved AA card was from 12/22/12. Attempted but denied Jan 1, 2014 (not due to credit score).

Am I at risk of being denied again if applying for this later in March? I don't want to miss this offer, but also don't want to jeopardize another hard pull for nothing.

Thanks!

dprocuk - At most you should wait until 65 days after your denial, and then you can go for a second one 8+ days later if you like.
Even though I was denied as already being an active citi card holder? I know I typically should wait 18 months to be re-eligible for a new Citi AA card. In my case, it has been 14 months... I already wasted one hard inquiry with no reward, and prefer not to waste another.

Thoughts?
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Old Mar 5, 2014, 11:21 am
  #2897  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Programs: SPG Gold/HH Diamond/CC Gold/Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 310
Originally Posted by Sup3r52man
I too would be interested in the majority opinion for a time line of when to/and when did you apply for a 2nd card.

Also for those applying for multiple cards and doing the "cancel in 30 days to avoid AF", what was the time line of when to cancel 1st card in lue of 2nd card etc.
My statement on my first card closes today and I have spent the required $10,000. My plan is to:

1) Wait for the miles to post to AA
2) Pay everything but $450 off on the first card
3) Apply for 2nd card
4) Close 1st card

I plan on leaving the 2nd card open.
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Old Mar 5, 2014, 11:24 am
  #2898  
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 4,166
Just applied and got the pending message. Says to call to provide more info.
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Old Mar 5, 2014, 11:29 am
  #2899  
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 123
Originally Posted by Nehawk
My statement on my first card closes today and I have spent the required $10,000. My plan is to:

1) Wait for the miles to post to AA
2) Pay everything but $450 off on the first card
3) Apply for 2nd card
4) Close 1st card

I plan on leaving the 2nd card open.
Would we think or has there been any known data points on the ability to SM the cancellation of Card #1 and have them transfer the credit line to another existing card?
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Old Mar 5, 2014, 11:32 am
  #2900  
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: San Antonio
Programs: AS MVP
Posts: 2,276
Originally Posted by dprocuk
Even though I was denied as already being an active citi card holder? I know I typically should wait 18 months to be re-eligible for a new Citi AA card. In my case, it has been 14 months... I already wasted one hard inquiry with no reward, and prefer not to waste another.

Thoughts?
Different product, different rules. You may not be eligible for another 50K Platinum card until 26 months (or more if the rules change) after your last approval. You are, however, eligible for the card covered in the thread you are posting in, the Executive card.

Again, I would wait until 65 days+ after your denial.
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Old Mar 5, 2014, 11:34 am
  #2901  
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: ONT/LAX
Programs: IHG Plat
Posts: 496
Originally Posted by Superorb
Just applied and got the pending message. Says to call to provide more info.
hopefully they just want your cell phone # as a few other members and i have experienced.
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Old Mar 5, 2014, 11:39 am
  #2902  
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 4,166
Originally Posted by indelible
hopefully they just want your cell phone # as a few other members and i have experienced.
Nice lady just verified my name and approved the card. I opted to shift credit from an unused HHonors card. Originally approved for $6,200 but I wanted $15,000. Is the low $6,200 line indicative of me reaching Citi's maximum exposure with me?
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Old Mar 5, 2014, 11:42 am
  #2903  
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: San Antonio
Programs: AS MVP
Posts: 2,276
Originally Posted by Nehawk
My statement on my first card closes today and I have spent the required $10,000. My plan is to:

1) Wait for the miles to post to AA
2) Pay everything but $450 off on the first card
3) Apply for 2nd card
4) Close 1st card

I plan on leaving the 2nd card open.
That 10K utilization will likely create a substantial ding on your credit for a month. A suggestion: pay ~9000 today so that your statement balance is only ~1300. Then pay the rest except for 450 after the statement posts, and continue as planned.
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Old Mar 5, 2014, 1:27 pm
  #2904  
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 202
Originally Posted by cybaslacka
when you say posted to your account, you mean posted to your AA account, correct? as opposed to it showing to on your citi statement.
That is correct...200k total to my account. Statement did read 113K reported to AA
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Old Mar 5, 2014, 1:34 pm
  #2905  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: PHX
Posts: 4,792
I'm guessing there aren't too many data points on people holding two of these cards at the same time until this promo, but just in case, does anyone know whether the $40k spend for the 10k EQM requires the spending to be all on one card, or can you aggregate it across two cards. In other words, meet $10k spend on card 1 for the 100k bonus, then meet $10k spend on card 2 for the second 100k bonus. Now, can I just put $20k more on one of the two cards to get the 10k EQM, or do I need to put $30k more on one of the cards?

As I said, I'm skeptical whether too many people will have data points, but if you happen to, or if there's some terms and conditions somewhere I'm missing, kindly point me in the right direction.
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Old Mar 5, 2014, 1:37 pm
  #2906  
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
Posts: 3,677
Originally Posted by ExpatExp
Is Citi advertising nonstop, standard-level AAdvantage award availability specifically for more than one person at a time between JFK and LHR on AA metal? There's lots of availability for one person, for connections or flights on BA, as you said, and even more options if you consider the co-terminals at each end.

At any rate, I'm not sure how likely it is that AA will release 25% of the F cabin for award seats in advance. With the JFK-LHR fleet going to 773 only, every AA aircraft on that route will have only eight seats in F. 25% of the F cabin on a route that's popular with paying F passengers seems like a lot to me.

Even in J, I think it's going to be difficult when you're looking at what I understand is one of the most profitable premium routes in the world, with a very high number of paying premium cabin passengers.

That said, there have been discussions about the possibility that AA may be making less seats available at standard redemption levels than in the past. Without getting more OT, there may be some reason there for what you have been seeing...

Whenever I want to redeem for more than one person at a time, I prepare myself to book 330 days ahead and to be flexible with dates and routings. It usually works. Most recently, I used this approach to get two F seats from New York to Hawaii right after Christmas ^

Back on topic, I'm planning to use the miles from this card to get more awards like the ones I just mentioned, or possibly for an Explorer award. Even if there is a devalutation, I will hopefully have time to redeem the miles before the devaluation hits.
AA is advertising "Ready to make some memories? Think of the possibilities your miles can provide". They show that every time you search for availability while the system is in search mode. It seems the only "possibility" your miles can provide is to go TATL alone, leaving your SO at home.

330 days out has not worked for over a year. I just searched mid 0ctober thru end of booking in mid January, to LHR (usually the ONLY destination possible to book from the US). This is not the time of year that leisure travelers really want to go to Europe. AA is giving out Super Saver 20K economy awards at this time.

Still in this non-prime time season, departing not only from JFK, but also ORD, DFW, MIA, LAX, SFO...all of them have precisely ZERO availability for 2 seats on the same flight in either FC or Bus. Neither non-stop, nor connecting. ZERO...

And MIA and ORD are still flying the old 777s at that time, so 16 FC seats per flight.

Yes, you got lucky and got seats to Hawaii. But that is not real FC, that is domestic, slightly reclining seat "first class". Most of the trip reports I've read on that say that it is so little better than economy that the writer would save the miles and just go econ next time. You got the award seats because no one else wants to pay for them.

And of course, "right after Christmas" is not prime time for flights to Hawaii. Most people want to go in the summer during school vacations, and when most people get their work vacation time. Anyone wanting to go around Christmas wants to be there for Christmas, not after it.

I looked at the thread you linked to, and it confirmed what I have experienced. AA has done a stealth devaluation, virtually eliminating 2 Saver awards TATL, even on the old 777s. Leaving a couple who want to "make some memories" together three choices. Book one Saver flight way in advance, and pay cash for the other one. Or book one Saver, and one Anytime, if they have that many miles. Or go a day apart, fly alone, and meet up when they get there.

I mentioned the last one to my wife, and she said if we have to go alone, she's not going at all. Nor am I interested in spending several weeks in Europe on my own.

One more option I almost forgot; use AA miles to go on BA, and pay $1k each in fees. None of us signed up with AA hoping to pay $1k in BA fees.

Hence all of the people willing to pay $250 net, and spend $10K, most of them doing that for 2 or even 3 cards. That's what you have to do now to get enough miles to fly even Bus TATL together.
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Old Mar 5, 2014, 1:38 pm
  #2907  
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NYC
Posts: 61
Applied for card #2 yesterday. Did not get instant approval so called (866) 606-2961 number , csr had me on the phone for about 10 min and then said she cannot process my application today because it went to some other dept, asked me to check back tomorrow.
Hung Up, called (800) 695-5171. Everything was smooth until we got to CL movement. Since my 1st Exec card has the most CL, I asked to transfer half of it to the new card. CSR realized it's the same card and started asking me questions of why do I need a 2nd identical card if I got one 1 month ago... I brushed him off and asked to just move the CL and that's it... He continued that it does not make sense to him why I am applying for another card and trying to move CL when I havn't yet gotten my bonus for the 1st card.. I probably was on the phone with him for 20 min before he agreed to do what I was asking him to do... It was a tense call but eventually got approved for 12K..
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Old Mar 5, 2014, 1:47 pm
  #2908  
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
Posts: 3,677
Originally Posted by lkar
I'm guessing there aren't too many data points on people holding two of these cards at the same time until this promo, but just in case, does anyone know whether the $40k spend for the 10k EQM requires the spending to be all on one card, or can you aggregate it across two cards. In other words, meet $10k spend on card 1 for the 100k bonus, then meet $10k spend on card 2 for the second 100k bonus. Now, can I just put $20k more on one of the two cards to get the 10k EQM, or do I need to put $30k more on one of the cards?

As I said, I'm skeptical whether too many people will have data points, but if you happen to, or if there's some terms and conditions somewhere I'm missing, kindly point me in the right direction.
From the T/C:

"One time per calendar year (referring to January through December billing statements), the primary Citi Executive℠ / AAdvantage® World Elite™ MasterCard® cardmember will earn 10,000 Elite Qualifying Miles (EQMs) after he or she reaches the first $40,000 in eligible purchases on his or her Citi Executive℠ / AAdvantage® World Elite™ MasterCard® account during such calendar year".

I'm pretty sure Citi will say "account", not multiple accounts combined. Nice try though.

And anyone who is going to try for this please note, this ends with your Dec statement. Regardless of when you got your card, only charges posting on or before your Dec statement count. So if yours posts on Dec 1, any charges posting after that date don't count. Even charges from late Nov that took a week to post.
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Old Mar 5, 2014, 1:51 pm
  #2909  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: PHX
Posts: 4,792
Originally Posted by Brugge
I'm pretty sure Citi will say "account", not multiple accounts combined. Nice try though.

And anyone who is going to try for this please note, this ends with your Dec statement. Regardless of when you got your card, only charges posting on or before your Dec statement count. So if yours posts on Dec 1, any charges posting after that date don't count. Even charges from late Nov that took a week to post.
That seems right.

Well, given that I'm already 10k of the way toward 40k, I might as well go for the 10k EQM and hope US and AA combine EQM. I think what I'll do is put another $20k on one card, and then wait a couple of statements to see if I get lucky and they combine them. If not, I'll just do another $10k. So, check this space around August or September for a data point!
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Old Mar 5, 2014, 2:47 pm
  #2910  
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Orange County, CA
Programs: AA, BA, SPG Gold
Posts: 665
Received 2nd Exec card today. Applied on 3/1, had to call in and received both UPS and FedEx pkgs today (no fancy box). Closing date on card is 3/19 - a mere 2 weeks. First card I was given a full month. Not going to close anyway so the early closing date is not a problem.
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