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Old Oct 2, 2021, 8:51 am
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Originally Posted by Engineering Travel
Folks, I have been following this thread for a while now and have a question or three.

I'm a specialised UK engineer and have been working/training folks on and off in China for since 2002, for duration's up to 3 months on a M visa, which has now expired.

My last visit was December 2019, and the companies I support are in need of my assistance in person for technical training (basically fix the bloody things..as remote support gets lost in translation).

Have any of the posters (or friends) on here travelled to PRC do do breakdown repairs? If so how many hoops does one jump through.
Or any ideas how I go about getting a visa from the UK (all documents from my employer and our customer are understood).
Feel free to PM me if you are interested in talking with my visa guy. He will charge you Y3000 for an entry visa, and an additional Y3000 to convert it to a residence permit. You will need a bunch of documents to pull this off, but this is a relatively small hurdle, and visa guy will assist.

ETA: An (included) integral part of the RP Y3000 is the medical check. I value this at Y1500.

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Old Oct 2, 2021, 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by moondog
Feel free to PM me if you are interested in talking with my visa guy. He will charge you Y3000 for an entry visa, and an additional Y3000 to convert it to a residence permit. You will need a bunch of documents to pull this off, but this is a relatively small hurdle, and visa guy will assist.

ETA: An (included) integral part of the RP Y3000 is the medical check. I value this at Y1500.
Really? This is quite interesting.

Entry visa+ residence permit for only $6000? That's incredible.

It is only for work related visa right? Not for family visits?

ETA: I did medical check in Nanjing for less than Y600.
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Old Oct 2, 2021, 10:58 am
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Really? This is quite interesting.

Entry visa+ residence permit for only $6000? That's incredible.

It is only for work related visa right? Not for family visits?

ETA: I did medical check in Nanjing for less than Y600.
In theory, you can do it yourself for ZERO. What's more, I dislike our previous visa agency threads because I felt those guys were stealing money.

By contrast, Scott can pull off this stuff in pretty much all cases.

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Old Oct 3, 2021, 3:56 pm
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Originally Posted by moondog
Feel free to PM me if you are interested in talking with my visa guy. He will charge you Y3000 for an entry visa, and an additional Y3000 to convert it to a residence permit. You will need a bunch of documents to pull this off, but this is a relatively small hurdle, and visa guy will assist.

ETA: An (included) integral part of the RP Y3000 is the medical check. I value this at Y1500.

To be frank, I was looking for the honest entry into PRC.
The post was to see if anyone from the UK had done the hoop run and was looking to for their advice.

Mooddog your a great source on this site, please carry on the excellent work.
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Old Oct 4, 2021, 7:22 am
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Originally Posted by Engineering Travel
To be frank, I was looking for the honest entry into PRC.
The post was to see if anyone from the UK had done the hoop run and was looking to for their advice.

Mooddog your a great source on this site, please carry on the excellent work.
Scott and Vincent definitely play by the rules. I've seen other agencies that charge ~20% less, but I haven't contemplated changing horses because renewals with Scott are insanely easy, and he got me 5 years, in spite of my B work permit (this is not illegal).

The biggest barrier I can think of in your case getting a Chinese company to hire you. You don't necessarily need to do any actual work, but the company will be on the line for you, and front your taxes (which, can be very low).

Before I got my RP, I used M visas (F prior to that), but that ship sailed pre-COVID, and these days, companies are frequently subjected to visa inspections.

There are presumably some non-work related residence permits on offer (e.g. one of our members recently received a humanitarian visa). And, F might be possible if you get a really strong invitation letter (e.g. from a government entity). I encourage you to email Scott in order to get an overview of your options. His advice is free.
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Old Oct 4, 2021, 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by moondog
Scott and Vincent definitely play by the rules. I've seen other agencies that charge ~20% less, but I haven't contemplated changing horses because renewals with Scott are insanely easy, and he got me 5 years, in spite of my B work permit (this is not illegal).

The biggest barrier I can think of in your case getting a Chinese company to hire you. You don't necessarily need to do any actual work, but the company will be on the line for you, and front your taxes (which, can be very low).

Before I got my RP, I used M visas (F prior to that), but that ship sailed pre-COVID, and these days, companies are frequently subjected to visa inspections.

There are presumably some non-work related residence permits on offer (e.g. one of our members recently received a humanitarian visa). And, F might be possible if you get a really strong invitation letter (e.g. from a government entity). I encourage you to email Scott in order to get an overview of your options. His advice is free.
This is great to hear.

My brother-in-law, a US citizen, may need a visa to visit his aging dad in Shanghai. They haven't seen each other for 2 years.

Of course, his 10-year Q2 visa is suspended by PRC.

I am wondering if Scott and Vincent take such cases?
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Old Oct 4, 2021, 11:03 am
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Originally Posted by moondog
Scott and Vincent definitely play by the rules. I've seen other agencies that charge ~20% less, but I haven't contemplated changing horses because renewals with Scott are insanely easy, and he got me 5 years, in spite of my B work permit (this is not illegal).

The biggest barrier I can think of in your case getting a Chinese company to hire you. You don't necessarily need to do any actual work, but the company will be on the line for you, and front your taxes (which, can be very low).

Before I got my RP, I used M visas (F prior to that), but that ship sailed pre-COVID, and these days, companies are frequently subjected to visa inspections.

There are presumably some non-work related residence permits on offer (e.g. one of our members recently received a humanitarian visa). And, F might be possible if you get a really strong invitation letter (e.g. from a government entity). I encourage you to email Scott in order to get an overview of your options. His advice is free.
Sorry, but I think you misread my post, I am employed by a UK company and we have done many Chinese visas pre covid, The company in China is aware of invitation letters etc.
Just looking to see if any UK national has done a similar trip post covid.
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Old Oct 4, 2021, 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Engineering Travel
Sorry, but I think you misread my post, I am employed by a UK company and we have done many Chinese visas pre covid, The company in China is aware of invitation letters etc.
Just looking to see if any UK national has done a similar trip post covid.
I suggest you email Scott or Vincent, and explain your desired plan. Let's go with Vincent at xinludao dot com (Scott is a little slower to respond).

It won't matter, but you can tell him you were referred by Eric.
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Old Oct 4, 2021, 12:48 pm
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Originally Posted by moondog
Scott and Vincent definitely play by the rules. I've seen other agencies that charge ~20% less, but I haven't contemplated changing horses because renewals with Scott are insanely easy, and he got me 5 years, in spite of my B work permit (this is not illegal).

The biggest barrier I can think of in your case getting a Chinese company to hire you. You don't necessarily need to do any actual work, but the company will be on the line for you, and front your taxes (which, can be very low).

Before I got my RP, I used M visas (F prior to that), but that ship sailed pre-COVID, and these days, companies are frequently subjected to visa inspections.

There are presumably some non-work related residence permits on offer (e.g. one of our members recently received a humanitarian visa). And, F might be possible if you get a really strong invitation letter (e.g. from a government entity). I encourage you to email Scott in order to get an overview of your options. His advice is free.
I feel like all this advice is for pre March 2020. Maybe I'm wrong and Scott can work wonders for people stuck outside China but he'd be the first I've heard of who could pull this off.
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Old Oct 4, 2021, 5:55 pm
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I feel like all this advice is for pre March 2020. Maybe I'm wrong and Scott can work wonders for people stuck outside China but he'd be the first I've heard of who could pull this off.
He most recently got me a 2021 RP. I hope you guys (in SH) can attend my bday celebration.
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Old Oct 4, 2021, 8:40 pm
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Originally Posted by moondog
He most recently got me a 2021 RP. I hope you guys (in SH) can attend my bday celebration.
You were already in China when you got the RP though. For people outside, trying to get in, it's a whole different ballgame.
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Old Oct 5, 2021, 1:55 am
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Originally Posted by travelinmanS
You were already in China when you got the RP though. For people outside, trying to get in, it's a whole different ballgame.
I realize that it's difficult now, but Scott is pretty good at entry visas. These are only valid for 30 days. Converting an entry visa to an RP is not hard, but you only have 16 days to pull it off.

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Old Oct 5, 2021, 1:53 pm
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China is probably looking for some sort of vaccine recognition from foreign countries and will work on some sort of path forward. Maybe 2023 is the year we'll be well on our way to normality?
A vaccine that actually works would help a lot in recognizing their vaccine.
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Old Oct 5, 2021, 5:35 pm
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I realize that it's difficult now, but Scott is pretty good at entry visas. These are only valid for 30 days. Converting an entry visa to an RP is not hard, but you only have 16 days to pull it off.
Just double-check, Scott only works for employment based visa, not family visit visa right?

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A vaccine that actually works would help a lot in recognizing their vaccine.
The world is highly suspicious to a vaccine that does not show enough data to be recognized as effective.
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Old Oct 6, 2021, 12:18 am
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The world is highly suspicious to a vaccine that does not show enough data to be recognized as effective.
Originally Posted by percysmith
TGA cited Sinovac's Effectiveness against severe infection/hospitalisation in granting recognition https://www.tga.gov.au/covid-19-vacc...e-recognition; though (I think, as a lay person) if they're granting recognition on Effectiveness alone, Australia needs to pass the stated vaccination threshold (80%?) first.
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