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Old Jul 21, 2021 | 12:27 pm
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For this situation, the test can NOT be taken in the NYC area. It HAS to be done at U.S. departure airport location (i.e. LA)
Got it - thanks for the clarification.
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Old Jul 25, 2021 | 10:08 pm
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Alright Ive got another question that may or may not be answerable.

When I fly back to the states next week, I could feasibly get the 2 dose Pfizer regimen during my time there, however I will by flying back to China before 2 weeks after the final dosage.

Presuming I test positive for IgM antibodies for my HDC application due to the vaccine, will I be rejected because it hasnt been 2 weeks since the final dose? If so, Im going to just remain a hated unvaccinated scum.
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Old Jul 26, 2021 | 3:04 am
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Originally Posted by GloballyServiced
Alright Ive got another question that may or may not be answerable.

When I fly back to the states next week, I could feasibly get the 2 dose Pfizer regimen during my time there, however I will by flying back to China before 2 weeks after the final dosage.

Presuming I test positive for IgM antibodies for my HDC application due to the vaccine, will I be rejected because it hasnt been 2 weeks since the final dose? If so, Im going to just remain a hated unvaccinated scum.
See this document https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...h.wommaldudiwk
It's from the pinned post on the top of /r/chinavisa on Reddit.

Specifically see the sections:
"How long will it take for my IgM results to turn negative"
"What if I test positive for PCR, IgM Antibodies, or the N Protein"

The question might be better asked there, the mods know a lot about the process.
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Old Jul 27, 2021 | 12:47 am
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thanks for linking that, can’t imagine the time it took for that person to make the document.

The answer I was looking for is whether or not you need the full 2 weeks of wait time from your final dosage of vaccine before being able to get a green code. Obviously nothing is clearly laid out by China but I saw a few tidbits of info that insinuated YES you do.

So I will likely get the JJ vaccine since it is a single dosage and I can clear the “fUlLY vAcCiNaTeD” status when I apply for GHC. Apparently China views the moderna, Pfizer, and JJ as equivalent even though they probably aren’t.
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Old Jul 27, 2021 | 2:04 am
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Originally Posted by GloballyServiced
thanks for linking that, cant imagine the time it took for that person to make the document.

The answer I was looking for is whether or not you need the full 2 weeks of wait time from your final dosage of vaccine before being able to get a green code. Obviously nothing is clearly laid out by China but I saw a few tidbits of info that insinuated YES you do.

So I will likely get the JJ vaccine since it is a single dosage and I can clear the fUlLY vAcCiNaTeD status when I apply for GHC. Apparently China views the moderna, Pfizer, and JJ as equivalent even though they probably arent.
Why didn't you just get the Chinese ones which they view as the best?
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Old Jul 27, 2021 | 7:45 pm
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The potential improved odds of China HDC approval didn’t offset the concerns of hassle, efficacy, safety, and recognition by other countries. I’ll find out in a month or so if that was a mistake. I’m going to get the same paycheck if I’m stuck in the US anyway.
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Old Jul 27, 2021 | 8:31 pm
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Originally Posted by GloballyServiced
Apparently China views the moderna, Pfizer, and JJ as equivalent even though they probably arent.
Pfizer is more equal than the others.
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 6:36 am
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Originally Posted by GloballyServiced
thanks for linking that, cant imagine the time it took for that person to make the document.

The answer I was looking for is whether or not you need the full 2 weeks of wait time from your final dosage of vaccine before being able to get a green code. Obviously nothing is clearly laid out by China but I saw a few tidbits of info that insinuated YES you do.

So I will likely get the JJ vaccine since it is a single dosage and I can clear the fUlLY vAcCiNaTeD status when I apply for GHC. Apparently China views the moderna, Pfizer, and JJ as equivalent even though they probably arent.
Again, as indicated in my earlier post, this is just one data point:

1. I took two shots of Sino-Vac, and applied and received pre-approval from a Chinese consulate in the US (to return to China) before l left China for the US.
2. I took my second shot of Pfizer 7 days before I took all the required Covid tests as required by the Chinese Consulate (at the city where the direct flight originated), and received the Green Code 8 days after the second shot of Pfizer. I took my flight to China 9 days after taking the second Pfizer shot.

As I indicated in my earlier post, I was rejected pre-approval earlier this year, so I stayed put in China, After getting Sino-Vac shots, and I reapplied, and received the pre-approval and I left China and stayed two wonderful summer months back home in the US. Now I just completed my 14-day quarantine in Shanghai and ready to go back to work.

It is just personal opinion here, basing "what ifs" scenario with no certainty how thing will turn out to choose between JJ or Pfizer is something I would not consider.

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Why didn't you just get the Chinese ones which they view as the best?
I was thinking exactly the same thing. It saves all the hassles and uncertainties and all the "what ifs" considerations.
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 7:55 am
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Again, as indicated in my earlier post, this is just one data point:

1. I took two shots of Sino-Vac, and applied and received pre-approval from a Chinese consulate in the US (to return to China) before l left China for the US.
2. I took my second shot of Pfizer 7 days before I took all the required Covid tests as required by the Chinese Consulate (at the city where the direct flight originated), and received the Green Code 8 days after the second shot of Pfizer. I took my flight to China 9 days after taking the second Pfizer shot.

As I indicated in my earlier post, I was rejected pre-approval earlier this year, so I stayed put in China, After getting Sino-Vac shots, and I reapplied, and received the pre-approval and I left China and stayed two wonderful summer months back home in the US. Now I just completed my 14-day quarantine in Shanghai and ready to go back to work.

It is just personal opinion here, basing "what ifs" scenario with no certainty how thing will turn out to choose between JJ or Pfizer is something I would not consider.



I was thinking exactly the same thing. It saves all the hassles and uncertainties and all the "what ifs" considerations.
So there is no risk of the Covid test going wrong if you have the sino vaccines and then take the mRNA ones? You simply only tell them about your Sinovac and dont mention the second vaccine?
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 9:31 am
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So there is no risk of the Covid test going wrong if you have the sino vaccines and then take the mRNA ones? You simply only tell them about your Sinovac and don’t mention the second vaccine?
I believe in transparency (I know it is ironic what we are dealing here), so I declared I had taken both Sino-Vac and Pfizer. I uploaded both as part of applying for the Green Code.
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copying from Sinocism

Delta outbreaks

Comment: The Nanjing outbreak is still growing, local officials are under a lot of pressure for poor epidemic prevention, and now there are cases traced to tourists in Zhangjiajie, Hunan. The outbreak traced to Zhangjiajie is likely grim news for the PRC tourism industry. With the entrance of the delta variant don't be surprised if we see a lot less domestic travel than expected now through the October 1 National Day holiday, especially with the 6th Plenum coming up, probably in October/November.

More places enhance steps amid new Nanjing outbreak - Global Times
Other cities in Jiangsu are reinforcing anti-pandemic measures. Suzhou has set up 18 highway checkpoints to check the health status of drivers coming from Nanjing. Suzhou has also suspended all passenger road transportation, including buses and taxis, with Nanjing...

According to media reports, seven cases recently detected in Dalian, Liaoning and Chengdu, Southwest China's Sichuan recently had attended a same show in Zhangjiajie, Central China's Hunan Province, on July 22.

Among the seven cases, three discovered in Dalian had transferred at the Lukou Airport on July 17.

Zhangjiajie has screened for close contacts of those who attended the show, put them under quarantine, and collected their nucleic acid samples for testing.
Nanjing airport to suspend all fights till August 11 to stop Delta variant transmission: source - Global Times
An anonymous insider told the Global Times on Wednesday that Nanjing Lukou International Airport, the transmission source of China’s latest resurgence of the Delta variant that has forced Nanjing city to a de-facto shutdown, will suspend all air flights till August 11.

The insider said the airport began to cut the number of flights in and out of the airport from July 26, including flights in and out of Nanjing. Also, international flights will be cancelled till August 11.
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 10:05 pm
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I was checking September US-China flights today, and noticed that MU is selling LAX-PVG for $1200 in economy and $2400 in business on many dates, both of which are great deals compared to everything else on offer. However YariGuy warned me that this flight doesn't exist now and there's no telling when it will actually resume.

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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 10:26 pm
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Is MU selling it directly or is a 3rd party “selling it”
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 11:32 pm
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Originally Posted by GloballyServiced
Is MU selling it directly or is a 3rd party “selling it”
The links I saw were third parties via Kayak (Priceline plus one other). I don't think I've ever bought a ticket directly from MU; my gut tells me that they actually want people to use OTAs (otherwise, they would put minimal effort into making their own channels somewhat attractive).
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Old Jul 29, 2021 | 1:13 am
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Ok yeah the agencies have all kinds of bogus flight options. Ignore them.
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