Current China Entry policy
#721
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#722




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The 72.9% number comes from here, I didn't make it up.
Obviously we all know the number is symbolically meaningless and they are going to do whatever they want to do. This is why I don't really bother with discussions of vaccine efficacy etc in China, there is also a better forum for that https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel-773/
Obviously we all know the number is symbolically meaningless and they are going to do whatever they want to do. This is why I don't really bother with discussions of vaccine efficacy etc in China, there is also a better forum for that https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel-773/
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/coronaviru...121542980.html
#723
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#724
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Have they made any public statements about how they’re handling people who were vaccinated 6-8-10 months ago?
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I’m just wondering if you lose your “status” after some date. It looks like the not-too-distant future will have mandatory vaccine for domestic flights to Beijing.
I wonder if the chance of a foreign vaccine being eligible for that is a firm zero.
I wonder if the chance of a foreign vaccine being eligible for that is a firm zero.
#727
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If country wide mandatory vaccines get us to whatever percentage big brother deems acceptable, count me as a supporter.
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I’m not interested in getting a Chinese saline injection if I’ve already had one from the states. If they won’t count the international one then maybe that would curtain call on my China career.
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Maybe I spoke too soon on the optimism front, I'm back to being a realist.
It's clear that the goalposts are continually moving. Let's assume that I think that working in China for a year could be beneficial to my career, and also that waiting another year until mid-2022 (or later!) is infeasible.
Let's see...
I don't really see the situation changing in the short term so given the time span of interviewing/paperwork/healthcode etc I might as well make this decision sooner rather than later...
It's clear that the goalposts are continually moving. Let's assume that I think that working in China for a year could be beneficial to my career, and also that waiting another year until mid-2022 (or later!) is infeasible.
Let's see...
- My existing vaccine (Moderna) is useless
- I can't get a Chinese vaccine in most Western countries, nor do I really want to. Plus someone in another country definitely needs it much more than I do
- I need to get a job with a company that will give a PU letter* (the RP strategy mentioned above in the thread isn't that useful if I only want to do this for a year)
- I need to wait an indefinite time for paperwork to be processed
- I need to get a green health code
- I need to book a flight (cost probably covered by company)
- I need to quarantine for two weeks (cost probably covered by company, but ughhh)
- Once I get in, I effectively can't leave for a year without going through the health code/flight/quarantine hullabaloo, and unsure if company will pay for the return flight
- I probably have at least one engagement in spring 2022 that I would really want to go to
I don't really see the situation changing in the short term so given the time span of interviewing/paperwork/healthcode etc I might as well make this decision sooner rather than later...
#730
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I've actually started to enjoy working here without the ability to leave. Just took some getting used to.
Switching topics, a friend of mine just completed a quarantine and gave me a brief synopsis:
-she was able to select her district upon arrival at pvg
-she chose xuhui (pretty safe choice because no bad areas)
-they bussed the entire xuhui contingent to the same jinjiang inn, which didn't completely suck and had very fast internet
-she ate the hotel food that was left outside of her door for the first week, but somehow managed to crack the eleme barrier during week two
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Switching topics, a friend of mine just completed a quarantine and gave me a brief synopsis:
-she was able to select her district upon arrival at pvg
-she chose xuhui (pretty safe choice because no bad areas)
-they bussed the entire xuhui contingent to the same jinjiang inn, which didn't completely suck and had very fast internet
-she ate the hotel food that was left outside of her door for the first week, but somehow managed to crack the eleme barrier during week two
Is your friend's final destination in Shanghai or is s/he going to another city after the quarantine period? I also heard the flight origination point also impact the choice of hotel, but cannot confirm. I heard from another friend of mine that he heard from someone who landed from a US flight at the same time as another flight (not sure from where), but each passenger was assigned to a hotel based on the arrival flight information in addition the final destination in China.
#732
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Thanks for sharing this information.
Is your friend's final destination in Shanghai or is s/he going to another city after the quarantine period? I also heard the flight origination point also impact the choice of hotel, but cannot confirm. I heard from another friend of mine that he heard from someone who landed from a US flight at the same time as another flight (not sure from where), but each passenger was assigned to a hotel based on the arrival flight information in addition the final destination in China.
Is your friend's final destination in Shanghai or is s/he going to another city after the quarantine period? I also heard the flight origination point also impact the choice of hotel, but cannot confirm. I heard from another friend of mine that he heard from someone who landed from a US flight at the same time as another flight (not sure from where), but each passenger was assigned to a hotel based on the arrival flight information in addition the final destination in China.
*I am guessing that each busload of people standing next to sign "x" goes to the same hotel.
Last edited by moondog; Jun 25, 2021 at 9:07 am
#733
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Maybe I spoke too soon on the optimism front, I'm back to being a realist.
It's clear that the goalposts are continually moving. Let's assume that I think that working in China for a year could be beneficial to my career, and also that waiting another year until mid-2022 (or later!) is infeasible.
Let's see...
I don't really see the situation changing in the short term so given the time span of interviewing/paperwork/healthcode etc I might as well make this decision sooner rather than later...
It's clear that the goalposts are continually moving. Let's assume that I think that working in China for a year could be beneficial to my career, and also that waiting another year until mid-2022 (or later!) is infeasible.
Let's see...
- My existing vaccine (Moderna) is useless
- I can't get a Chinese vaccine in most Western countries, nor do I really want to. Plus someone in another country definitely needs it much more than I do
- I need to get a job with a company that will give a PU letter* (the RP strategy mentioned above in the thread isn't that useful if I only want to do this for a year)
- I need to wait an indefinite time for paperwork to be processed
- I need to get a green health code
- I need to book a flight (cost probably covered by company)
- I need to quarantine for two weeks (cost probably covered by company, but ughhh)
- Once I get in, I effectively can't leave for a year without going through the health code/flight/quarantine hullabaloo, and unsure if company will pay for the return flight
- I probably have at least one engagement in spring 2022 that I would really want to go to
I don't really see the situation changing in the short term so given the time span of interviewing/paperwork/healthcode etc I might as well make this decision sooner rather than later...
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#735
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Apart from being able to easily return to the US, I've honestly just missed out on HK/Macau/SE Asia/Japan/Korea. And, we've been able to do all of that business remotely. Admittedly, sales are more effective in person, but it's a level playing field.


