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Old Jun 12, 2023 | 1:11 am
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This policy was previously only applicable to tour groups but has now been expanded to individual travel as well

https://www.china-briefing.com/news/.../#hainanHeader

Seems you're correct - this is possible now.
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Old Jun 13, 2023 | 8:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Kilian Zoll
Could anyone confirm (or better yet, have personal experience) if this is correct regarding the visa policy for Hainan?


Visa Exemptions:

Nationals of X with a normal passport arriving at Haikou (HAK) or Sanya (SYX) for a maximum stay of 30 days. They must:
- have a passport valid for a minimum of 6 months from the arrival date; and
- have at least 1 unused visa page in the passport; and
- stay only in Hainan province; and
- have a confirmed hotel reservation; and
- have a return/onward ticket for an international flight from Haikou (HAK) or Sanya (SYX).

I've read somewhere that you still need some kind of certificate from a "Hainan based travel agency" but not sure if that's still the case?

The info is from https://www.united.com/en/us/timatic/
This is correct.
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Old Jun 13, 2023 | 9:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Palal
This is correct.
Including the point that you still need a certificate from a Hainan based travel agency?
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Old Jun 14, 2023 | 6:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Kilian Zoll
Including the point that you still need a certificate from a Hainan based travel agency?
I don't think so. I called Hainan immigration a couple of months ago (by the way, the number is 12367 or [area code]+12367) and they didn't mention this.
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Old Jun 17, 2023 | 5:48 am
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Originally Posted by Palal
Buy rail tickets from trip.com They have a small surcharge but it should do the trick. Just make sure to enter your passport number correctly. You should not need the printed tickets - your passport is your ticket.
Just 2 years ago, I found out the hard way that not all stations or HSR lines allow just a passport. I was so used to just a passport but in Changchun had to go to the ticket office and get a small receipt or a ticket otherwise they wouldnt let me enter the station.

maybe now, 2 years later, all stations are OK with passport but be prepared for a small hassle outside of bigger cities and busy HSR lines.
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Old Jun 17, 2023 | 7:34 pm
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Originally Posted by mcjava
Just 2 years ago, I found out the hard way that not all stations or HSR lines allow just a passport. I was so used to just a passport but in Changchun had to go to the ticket office and get a small receipt or a ticket otherwise they wouldnt let me enter the station.

maybe now, 2 years later, all stations are OK with passport but be prepared for a small hassle outside of bigger cities and busy HSR lines.
On trip.com, the website will mention if you just need a passport (those would be "e-tickets"). Perhaps for some non-high speed routes, a tangible ticket is required. Ouch.

Although I did have an irritating time getting a bus ticket from Zhengzhou. I was told to go to security office first, register, and then get a chit which would allow me to buy the ticket. This is from a non-resident foreigner 's perspective.
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Old Jun 17, 2023 | 11:50 pm
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Originally Posted by mcjava
Just 2 years ago, I found out the hard way that not all stations or HSR lines allow just a passport. I was so used to just a passport but in Changchun had to go to the ticket office and get a small receipt or a ticket otherwise they wouldnt let me enter the station.

maybe now, 2 years later, all stations are OK with passport but be prepared for a small hassle outside of bigger cities and busy HSR lines.
That's definitely changed for all HSR stations - you are ok with just a passport. Obviously I can't comment on backwater conventional rail stations
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Old Jun 19, 2023 | 6:21 am
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I can comment on backwater train stations.

You will likely have to do some talking with whoever is manning the national id scanners. I've never had a problem getting through, typically I just show them my passport and they manually open the gate for me... sometimes they have a mobile device they can check your passport number on and sometimes they just chabuduo you through without checking.

Exiting the train stations big or small typically entails the same process since they've put exit scanners in now too.
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Old Jun 19, 2023 | 3:28 pm
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Originally Posted by j223
I can comment on backwater train stations.

You will likely have to do some talking with whoever is manning the national id scanners. I've never had a problem getting through, typically I just show them my passport and they manually open the gate for me... sometimes they have a mobile device they can check your passport number on and sometimes they just chabuduo you through without checking.

Exiting the train stations big or small typically entails the same process since they've put exit scanners in now too.
We hit that in 2019 in some not-backwater locations.
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Old Jun 20, 2023 | 12:37 am
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I was at one station where the gate itself actually accepted a passport.

Of course passports aren't really made for this constant handling, three times on just one train trip.
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Old Jun 20, 2023 | 1:46 am
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Originally Posted by 889
I was at one station where the gate itself actually accepted a passport.

Of course passports aren't really made for this constant handling, three times on just one train trip.
LOL? I know of plenty of people who use their passports daily (5x weekly) to exit Malaysia, enter Singapore, and back..

Passports are among the most durable items in the world...
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Old Jun 20, 2023 | 2:16 am
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Originally Posted by YuropFlyer
LOL? I know of plenty of people who use their passports daily (5x weekly) to exit Malaysia, enter Singapore, and back..

Passports are among the most durable items in the world...
The systems (for planes, trains, and hotels) are optimized for PRC IDs.
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Old Jun 20, 2023 | 2:45 am
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Originally Posted by 889
I was at one station where the gate itself actually accepted a passport.

Of course passports aren't really made for this constant handling, three times on just one train trip.

Most of the gates accept passports now.
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Old Jun 20, 2023 | 8:47 am
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Well, in four trips = 12 gates two months ago, only one gate had a slot that accepted my passport. (A couple more had the slots but didn't work.)
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Old Jun 20, 2023 | 11:09 pm
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Confirming that e-Channel worked at PEK for EXIT (two weeks after signing up).

The attendant did take one look at the length of my nose, and was first wanting to direct me back to the other passport check area. But I insisted and she eventually let me through.
(No pre e-channel passport machines anymore!)

I think my passport has readability issues as it took a few goes to read it - had this happen in other countries too, so not a unique experience.

(They did confiscate my USB car charger, as they felt the +12V tip was too 'weapon like'. &#128515


Will be interesting to see if it works on entry in a month or so.
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