Current China Entry policy
#2911



Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: LON
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 5,146
I entered on a 1 year multiple M visa.
Pre-pandemic there were never any questions at all, I simply passed through after they checked my documents, face and fingers.
However this time, I got some weird questions about who my employer was and the clerk used an unusually long time to flip through the passport multiple times... Very odd...
Didn't get a question directly about the invitation letter, but maybe it would have helped to show it to avoid those questions...
(But why, it's the embassy/consulate that checks your invitation and gives the visa, I though the job for the clerk at immigration was just to verify that the visa/passport matches the person entering.)
Pre-pandemic there were never any questions at all, I simply passed through after they checked my documents, face and fingers.
However this time, I got some weird questions about who my employer was and the clerk used an unusually long time to flip through the passport multiple times... Very odd...
Didn't get a question directly about the invitation letter, but maybe it would have helped to show it to avoid those questions...
(But why, it's the embassy/consulate that checks your invitation and gives the visa, I though the job for the clerk at immigration was just to verify that the visa/passport matches the person entering.)
The fact that you have a visa in your passport is just confirmation that you have satisfied some process that has been approved by an overseas consulate, and is effectively a green light for companies to transport you to China, and evidence that the immigration officer will take into account at the border. But an immigration officer can open a full investigation into whether your visa is valid, double check all the supporting evidence for that, require further clarification and interview you needed, and if deemed necessary cancel the visa in your passport and return you from whence you came.
Never underestimate the power of an immigration officer to ruin your plans.
(And this comment doesn't just apply to China)
#2912
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau




Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 22,133
And it doesn't just apply to visas either - it can apply to ETAs/ESTAs or ETA-less visa exempt.
We might speculate on the reason.
When I presented an Australian passport at YUL in Feb, I was grilled on my RTW itin. I think the CBSA officer was expecting a simple R/T.
I don't know whether your grilling was due to heightened tensions.
We might speculate on the reason.
When I presented an Australian passport at YUL in Feb, I was grilled on my RTW itin. I think the CBSA officer was expecting a simple R/T.
I don't know whether your grilling was due to heightened tensions.
#2913
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: YouTube: @FindingFoodFluency
Posts: 441
Flying in Tomorrow
Hi everyone,
As far as I know, there's only one form -- the Health Declaration form -- to fill out. Of course, I don't have a local contact, which the form requests (any suggestions? Just write my name and number again? Or, the first hotel info?)
I'm planning on leaving early the next morning to Zhengzhou from Beijing West. Looking forward to joining the mosh pit to buy tickets (do I need a local SIM to do so these days?) I used to go to those 代售处 agents to buy tickets, since there were never any queues. Are those still a thing?
Appreciate your potential advice,
3F
As far as I know, there's only one form -- the Health Declaration form -- to fill out. Of course, I don't have a local contact, which the form requests (any suggestions? Just write my name and number again? Or, the first hotel info?)
I'm planning on leaving early the next morning to Zhengzhou from Beijing West. Looking forward to joining the mosh pit to buy tickets (do I need a local SIM to do so these days?) I used to go to those 代售处 agents to buy tickets, since there were never any queues. Are those still a thing?
Appreciate your potential advice,
3F
#2914
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Shanghai
Posts: 46,412
I'm planning on leaving early the next morning to Zhengzhou from Beijing West. Looking forward to joining the mosh pit to buy tickets (do I need a local SIM to do so these days?) I used to go to those 代售处 agents to buy tickets, since there were never any queues. Are those still a thing?
-and, I believe that 售票处 can still issue physical tickets on the spot
-of course, you'll probably want a local SIM if you're going to be in China for more than a few days, but that could probably wait until after you get to Zhengzhou
#2915




Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: TAS
Programs: A3*G, UA 1K
Posts: 9,252
Buy rail tickets from trip.com They have a small surcharge but it should do the trick. Just make sure to enter your passport number correctly. You should not need the printed tickets - your passport is your ticket.
#2916
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: YouTube: @FindingFoodFluency
Posts: 441
-I would NOT advise writing your own name/number a second time; I suppose your hotel name and number will be fine
-I think you can buy train tickets from ctrip using your email address (instead of a local phone number)
-and, I believe that 售票处 can still issue physical tickets on the spot
-of course, you'll probably want a local SIM if you're going to be in China for more than a few days, but that could probably wait until after you get to Zhengzhou
-I think you can buy train tickets from ctrip using your email address (instead of a local phone number)
-and, I believe that 售票处 can still issue physical tickets on the spot
-of course, you'll probably want a local SIM if you're going to be in China for more than a few days, but that could probably wait until after you get to Zhengzhou
Given that I've only got a tourist visa, I'd just get the cheapest SIM. Do you reckon any ol' China Mobile in Zhengzhou would do?
Suppose the alternative is what was suggested below by (thanks to you, too) Palal . If all one needs is a passport (to serve as the ticket), that's intriguing, especially considering those 保安, err, "guards" by the station entrance might be confused when they try to check the ticket info.
#2917

Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 33
From what I've read, high speed rail has gone fully paperless and there are no more printed tickets for "G" and "D" trains. You buy a ticket linked to your passport/ID number and scan your passport at the "manual" gate to enter the station/platform. I will try it out next month.
#2918




Join Date: Jan 2020
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Lol I wrote myself as the local contact
Maybe I should have written down I know moondog
Maybe I should have written down I know moondog
#2920
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Shanghai
Posts: 46,412
Thanks, moondog .
Given that I've only got a tourist visa, I'd just get the cheapest SIM. Do you reckon any ol' China Mobile in Zhengzhou would do?
Suppose the alternative is what was suggested below by (thanks to you, too) Palal . If all one needs is a passport (to serve as the ticket), that's intriguing, especially considering those 保安, err, "guards" by the station entrance might be confused when they try to check the ticket info.
Given that I've only got a tourist visa, I'd just get the cheapest SIM. Do you reckon any ol' China Mobile in Zhengzhou would do?
Suppose the alternative is what was suggested below by (thanks to you, too) Palal . If all one needs is a passport (to serve as the ticket), that's intriguing, especially considering those 保安, err, "guards" by the station entrance might be confused when they try to check the ticket info.
I don't think it really matters if you grab a SIM in Beijing or Zhengzhou. Definitely bring your passport; you should be able to use your hotel if they need a local address because you will be (PSB) registered with them.
Don't waste too much time planning the SIM card drill. Simply note where the bigger stores are when you plan your outings and try to slot in a visit.
#2921
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Shanghai
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Last edited by moondog; May 23, 2023 at 10:20 am
#2922




Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beijing
Programs: SK EBG, BAEC Gold
Posts: 985
From what I've read, high speed rail has gone fully paperless and there are no more printed tickets for "G" and "D" trains. You buy a ticket linked to your passport/ID number and scan your passport at the "manual" gate to enter the station/platform. I will try it out next month.
I don't know if buying through Ctrip gets around this, but better to leave some extra time just in case if you go down this route. If you buy the train ticket through an agent with a "12306" terminal (the central trainticket booking system) this also takes care of the validation.
#2923


Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 3,286
The whole verify-your-passport thing is confusing, and I'm still not sure exactly when it's required. But be aware that with everybody buying online or via machines, open ticket counters are few and waits can be long.
Also confusing are those gate scanners. Sometimes they work with a passport. Sometimes you're just hustled to the manual gate. Remember there's also a gate when you exit at the end of your trip.
(And etickets aren't limited to D and G trains. Most trains now use them.)
Also confusing are those gate scanners. Sometimes they work with a passport. Sometimes you're just hustled to the manual gate. Remember there's also a gate when you exit at the end of your trip.
(And etickets aren't limited to D and G trains. Most trains now use them.)
#2924




Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: HKG
Posts: 1,398
Yes, this is correct. If you still need a printed ticket receipt this can collected from a machine or a ticket counter. It was the case though (at least when the new system started) that for the first trip using a given passport number it was necessary to go to a ticket counter to get the number activated/validated in their system. After that just showing scanning a passport at the gates should work.
I don't know if buying through Ctrip gets around this, but better to leave some extra time just in case if you go down this route. If you buy the train ticket through an agent with a "12306" terminal (the central trainticket booking system) this also takes care of the validation.
I don't know if buying through Ctrip gets around this, but better to leave some extra time just in case if you go down this route. If you buy the train ticket through an agent with a "12306" terminal (the central trainticket booking system) this also takes care of the validation.
So verification is only necessary if you need to buy tickets for lots of people, and in particular, Chinese nationals without passports.
#2925


Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 3,286
No, verification beforehand is necessary if you plan to buy more than three tickets for yourself. You'll find the app won't let you reserve a fourth ticket until after you've gone to the ticket office and your status changes to verified.

