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And your proof of this is...?Originally Posted by tsadude1
None have been caught because they are too scared. The program has worked.
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And the reason those scared tewwowists didn't then turn their attention to one of the many, many, many commercial airliners flying the friendly skies every day w/o the 'protection' of the SPOTNIKS is...??? Originally Posted by tsadude1
None have been caught because they are too scared. The program has worked.
These are the same planes that also have untold amounts of toothpaste & shampoo unfrettered by Kippies brought on board by fully-shod passengers, too, don't forget & yet, despite all these dangers, aren't falling out of the skies around us.
How is that possible???
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Come on, guys, give him a break. He's got a sense of humor! <where's the tongue in cheek emoticon?>Originally Posted by tsadude1
None have been caught because they are too scared. The program has worked.
(unlike Ron)
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(unlike Ron)
Gotta love text.Originally Posted by ElPasoPilot
Come on, guys, give him a break. He's got a sense of humor! <where's the tongue in cheek emoticon?>(unlike Ron)
My bad for falling for it.
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It is not whether any of these procedures are effective or not, it is just about expanding power and keeping jobs.
Terrorists be damned, just use them as an excuse to keep the money coming, and if we have trample on American's rights no big deal, just keep the (taxpayer's) money coming in.
you hypocrite! shame on you! how dare you not read your own post......hi-ho-hi-ho, it's to the box i go......Originally Posted by the_happiness_store
Look we are all on the wrong track here.It is not whether any of these procedures are effective or not, it is just about expanding power and keeping jobs.
Terrorists be damned, just use them as an excuse to keep the money coming, and if we have trample on American's rights no big deal, just keep the (taxpayer's) money coming in.
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Nor have there been any terrorist incidents involving air travel in the US since I replanted that pesky patch of lawn in the backyard in 2002. Correlation does not equal causation; you must describe a causal mechanism by which the BDO program, which TSA's own numbers show have never, ever, ever caught a single person wishing to harm aviation, has "scared away all the terrorists."Originally Posted by tsadude1
No terrorist incidents involving air travel in the U.S since the implementation of the program.....D'oh!
Oh, wait, you can't do that, because BDO is BS.
D'Oh!
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Originally Posted by bajajoes
Do BDO's have ANY law enforcement authoritah or do they need to call a LEO?
They have zero law enforcement authority, although they may try to bluff otherwise.
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Very few members of the TSA have law enforcement authority. We work closely with our local LEO's because law enforcement is outside of our mandate by congress.Originally Posted by bajajoes
Do BDO's have ANY law enforcement authoritah or do they need to call a LEO?
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Actually it really does matter and goes to the heart of his credibility on the matter. Clearly he has a financial stake in this and that is important.Originally Posted by TSORon
It does not matter how old the article is, nor how the professor is reimbursed or not reimbursed for his time with the TSA, but if it provides a value add to the TSA and its mission.
I do agree though, I find the science (if you can all it that) fascinating. I've read a number of books on the subject and have attended short seminars on lie detection and I have found it immensely useful. It's really not hard at all to detect "casual liars" using these techniques.
However..It's one thing to detect dishonesty when you are focusing on a single individual in an interview situation or just a focused discussion vs TSA's method.
TSA is taking unskilled labor and giving them a 40 hour training class. Then having them focus on hundreds of people. Furthermore the people we are concerned about are not "casual liars", but "true believers" who have been training for their terrorist activity for years. For TSA, it boils down to if the person is frowning and if they are patting their pockets.
TSA is simply outmatched here. It's not realistic to have a meaningful outcome and so far, TSA's dismal success record proves that out.
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Even Congress gets it right occasionally.Originally Posted by TSORon
Very few members of the TSA have law enforcement authority. We work closely with our local LEO's because law enforcement is outside of our mandate by congress.