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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 7:33 am
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Originally Posted by TSORon
Very few members of the TSA have law enforcement authority. We work closely with our local LEO's because law enforcement is outside of our mandate by congress.
One excellent reason for this is because if TSA were law enforcement, whatever legality might inhere in their "administrative search" regime would be substantially degraded, as the administrative search cannot be conducted for the purpose of general law enforcement.
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 7:42 am
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One excellent reason for this is because if TSA were law enforcement, whatever legality might inhere in their "administrative search" regime would be substantially degraded, as the administrative search cannot be conducted for the purpose of general law enforcement.
And yet the TSA just loooves to brag about catching celebrities with doobs... far outside the scope of the TSA "administrative search."
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 7:59 am
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No terrorist incidents involving air travel in the U.S since the implementation of the program.....D'oh!
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by TSORon
Very few members of the TSA have law enforcement authority. We work closely with our local LEO's because law enforcement is outside of our mandate by congress.
You know that and I know that but there are many TSO's out there who think and act otherwise
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 3:04 pm
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You know that and I know that but there are many TSO's out there who think and act otherwise
Unfortunately I have to agree with you. I wish it were otherwise, but you have hit a nail on the head.

I'm not really sure why this is so, and it certainly is not all that common, but there do seem to be a few frustrated LEO-wannabe's wearing the TSA uniform. I correct them when I see them, but that is just one TSO to another and I suspect that what I have to say has little effect.
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 3:26 pm
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 7:47 pm
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Originally Posted by TSORon
Unfortunately I have to agree with you. I wish it were otherwise, but you have hit a nail on the head.

I'm not really sure why this is so, and it certainly is not all that common, but there do seem to be a few frustrated LEO-wannabe's wearing the TSA uniform. I correct them when I see them, but that is just one TSO to another and I suspect that what I have to say has little effect.
While I too appreciate your attempt at "correction", if it is done with the same attitude that you sometimes display here, I can see why it is ignored.

Try mentoring, it might work better.....
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 8:24 pm
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Originally Posted by IslandBased
While I too appreciate your attempt at "correction", if it is done with the same attitude that you sometimes display here, I can see why it is ignored.

Try mentoring, it might work better.....
With all respect to everyone in the conversation ... effective mentoring requires that the recipient be willing to receive the mentoring. I suspect that those TSOs who are "frustrated LEO wanna-be's" would be rather unwilling to accept mentoring, even from the most noble source.
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 8:49 pm
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Originally Posted by tsadude1
No terrorist incidents involving air travel in the U.S since the implementation of the program.....D'oh!
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 8:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Wally Bird
goalie, ya gotta learn TSAspeak.

They were "suspected terrorists" or in English, suspected of being terrorists. Turns out they weren't, but TSA feels it can still claim some kind of victory.
Twisted minds twist words.
So, tell me, has the TSA ever caught an actual terrorist?
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 8:27 am
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So, tell me, has the TSA ever caught an actual terrorist?
Oh yes, yes they have; lots of them. Of course they can't tell us about it, we'll just have to take their word for it.

/sarcasm
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by goalie
You know that and I know that but there are many TSO's out there who think and act otherwise
Unfortunately I have to agree with you. I wish it were otherwise, but you have hit a nail on the head.

I'm not really sure why this is so, and it certainly is not all that common, but there do seem to be a few frustrated LEO-wannabe's wearing the TSA uniform. I correct them when I see them, but that is just one TSO to another and I suspect that what I have to say has little effect.
And there lies the rub as where you take action and it may/may not be successful (no offense meant ), each airport is its own little fiefdom with its own "we do things differently here" rules and that is a systemic problem across the board. TSA coprporate has to take the McDonalds approach but in reality, the way the TSA is set up, it can never happen as sadly, TSA corporate is too messed up in its own right to even have a clue as to what happens in the trenches


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Ron for once I complement you^
As do I ^ (tho it has been more than once for me )
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