Didn't Bart's old signature used to read
I think that is the best advice so far.

Shoe removal no longer concerns me. After all, as long as it's applied to everyone and not as a means of beatdown to specific passengers, it loses much of its offensiveness.

The birdbrains in DC have never grasped the difference between risk management and risk avoidance, and I doubt they're gonna get religion overnight now that they have gone off the deep end.

My children are allowed to bring frozen waterbottles to elementary school. There will be a lot of afternoons in the mid to upper 90s until November or so, and the teachers and staff realize that drinking (seemingly) boiling water from non-refrigereated fountains (all of which are outdoors and many of which are in the afternoon sun) just don't cut it. And you gotta realize - I'm talking about a Los Angeles Public School, where lotsa stuff is on the zero tolerance list. But they're allowed to bring water. Any guesses about whether that policy changes in three weeks when school reopens? It wouldn't surprise me if we get a letter from the school that starts off "The world changed on September 11, 2001 and changed again on August 10, 2006 . . . "

If it does, you're gonna read about an arrest in LA of a parent who is sick and tired of having their children violated in the name of some moron's idea of "security."

Last Thursday, the TSA violated them by confiscating their chapstick and water at a checkpoint. Last night, the chapstick was OK but the water still was a no-go. Only in the land of the free.

Too bad you aren't in charge. I'd still disagree with some of the policies of BartWorld, but I doubt I'd be as livid about them.

According to the TSA website "Personal lubricants - Up to 4 oz." are permitted in carryons. I would say that eye cream is a "Personal lubricant" but I wouldn't necessarily assume every TSA screener would agree, even if he/she had bothered to consult the actual rules.

You could print out the TSA webpage Bwaahahahaha, did I really say that ?

And no comments about other "Personal Lubricants", thank you.

So, small amounts of personal lubricants are allowed. I perceive a personal lubricant to be moisterizer, hand cream, eye drops, and the like. How does the consistency and viscosity (prior to this ban, I could count on one hand the number of times I used the term "viscosity" - now I use almost daily.) of the aforementioned products differ in any way from the banned items of toothpaste, shampoo,hair conditioner, or skin cleanser.

I'm really lost on this.

--Sioux

I just asked about this in another context on the Women's forum.

I suspect that a "personal lubricant" is ...um... for more personal parts
of the body than e.g. a hand/eye cream. I wish it weren't so, but I think
that's what they mean. However, I have no real clue, and this is
a good one for Bart to tell us about.

--LG

Where on the TSA Website are you seeing this?

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...d-items.shtm#1

They allow "toy weapons"!!!!!!

As a general rule, "personal lubricant" is, in practice, an interpersonal lubricant.

I was thinking the lubricant would be moisturizers, but those are still verboten. The list specifically mentions KY Jelly as being OK as a personal lubricant. How about vaseline?

I don't see this either. And I've been looking at the site daily to see their daily modifications...

I see under prohibitied items:

All creams and lotions including Neosporin or first-aid creams and ointments, topical or rash creams and ointments, suntan lotions, moisturizers, etc.

And getting to some comments about hiding these things, sure, right.. but my question, basically, is when is the sanity going to return!!!!!!

Why I am living in a world that I'm now comtemplating where I can hide packets of eyecream on my person to get them past security to then covet on a flight and keep out of sight of other drying pax and hide in the lav to apply it and be worried where to toss the empty packet for fear of discovery, etc?!!!!!

Why I am forecd to spend the money to see my ears/nose/throat doctor so he can prescribe some kind of medicine that will take the place of Afrin - which has served my needs perfectly (bad pain in my ears upon descent) for countless flights in the past?!!!

Why I am expected to fly for 6 hours, purchase needed (overpriced) toilettries, discard them when I connect to the next flight and then purchase more at the next airport? Oh, sure, I don't HAVE to purchase toilettries, I could go 20 hours without brushing my teeth, etc.



Edited to add:

I had been typing and hadn't seen the new posts above.

Ok, I get it. I'll just cover myself with Astroglide on the plane, I'll be dewy fresh when I get to Rome.

Toward the top of the page, before the charts (emphasis mine):

To ensure the health and welfare of certain air travelers the following items are permitted.

Small amounts of Baby formula and breast milk if a baby or small child is traveling
Liquid prescription medicine with a name that matches the passenger�s ticket
Up to 5 oz. (148ml) of liquid or gel low blood sugar treatment
Up to 4 oz. of essential non-prescription liquid medications including saline solution, eye care products and KY jelly
Gel-filled bras and similar prostethics
Gel-filled wheelchair cushions
Life support and life sustaining liquids such as bone marrow, blood products, and transplant organs carried for medical reasons


Further down on the chart it says:

Personal lubricants - Up to 4 oz. Yes Yes

well, that's an "essential" in dealing with security and the airlines these days...

Yeah, but only 4 oz. won't leave much for airplane use after dealing with security!

No they are just preparing us for the next stage of the new security requirements.