TSA Adjusting Prohibitions/Designated "Ask Bart" Thread
Aug 16, 2006 | 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Bart
Logic tells me that bottled water purchased inside the sterile area should be permitted. Even if the requirement is that the bottle remain sealed until brought inside the aircraft. I don't know if this has been brought up in the good-idea stage of ongoing procedural reviews.
One good idea would be to change the location of these procedural reviews so that the participants have to fly out of airports to get to this meeting and get a feel for the impact of their decisions. The officers I work with are professional and committed to their duties, but their common gripe is to have the head honchos spend a day, in TSA uniform, on the floor to see what it's like. We do have some who come to the floor, but they stand in the back for a few moments and then wander off. They need to experience a couple of 30-minute rotations in our shoes. Of course, this will never happen, but if it did, then perhaps they would learn to at least survey the field first before coming up with bright ideas in changing our procedures.
One good idea would be to change the location of these procedural reviews so that the participants have to fly out of airports to get to this meeting and get a feel for the impact of their decisions. The officers I work with are professional and committed to their duties, but their common gripe is to have the head honchos spend a day, in TSA uniform, on the floor to see what it's like. We do have some who come to the floor, but they stand in the back for a few moments and then wander off. They need to experience a couple of 30-minute rotations in our shoes. Of course, this will never happen, but if it did, then perhaps they would learn to at least survey the field first before coming up with bright ideas in changing our procedures.
Aug 16, 2006 | 2:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Bart
Logic tells me that bottled water purchased inside the sterile area should be permitted. Even if the requirement is that the bottle remain sealed until brought inside the aircraft. I don't know if this has been brought up in the good-idea stage of ongoing procedural reviews.
Last edited by nrgiii; Aug 16, 2006 at 2:45 pm
Aug 16, 2006 | 2:25 pm
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Originally Posted by mikeon
Any kind of food item with a gel like conistancy or have liquids in it are not allowed anymore such as yogurts, jello, puddings, penut butter, etc. I need to clarify this with my other supervisors.
I had very good luck flying with (a five-pound bag of) oranges last weekend and have been assuming that will be my means of emergency/backup hydration. No screener made any comments about them--allowed or not--so it's possible they were just unseen.
I'd be more than a bit annoyed if some TSAer tried to confiscate them, but I'd at least like to know the rules.
Aug 16, 2006 | 2:26 pm
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more never-ending questions for Bart
My first post, as I too am getting unhinged by all this security stuff. Two questions for the long-suffering Bart:
If we have to take off our shoes, can we put on those disposable shoe-covers that medical personnel wear? Or will we be asked to take those off, too?
I read that aerosols are now prohibited. Does that include spray Evian? It's basically Evian water in a small spray can, which is great for long, dry flights.
If we have to take off our shoes, can we put on those disposable shoe-covers that medical personnel wear? Or will we be asked to take those off, too?
I read that aerosols are now prohibited. Does that include spray Evian? It's basically Evian water in a small spray can, which is great for long, dry flights.
Aug 16, 2006 | 2:53 pm
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Originally Posted by greggwiggins
At BWI, screeners were so thorough that they confiscated toothpaste from air marshals, who carry guns.
Best, Dave
Aug 16, 2006 | 3:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Mr. Woo
My first post, as I too am getting unhinged by all this security stuff. Two questions for the long-suffering Bart:
If we have to take off our shoes, can we put on those disposable shoe-covers that medical personnel wear? Or will we be asked to take those off, too?
I read that aerosols are now prohibited. Does that include spray Evian? It's basically Evian water in a small spray can, which is great for long, dry flights.
If we have to take off our shoes, can we put on those disposable shoe-covers that medical personnel wear? Or will we be asked to take those off, too?
I read that aerosols are now prohibited. Does that include spray Evian? It's basically Evian water in a small spray can, which is great for long, dry flights.
As for the Evian water in a spray can...sounds like a liquid to me, and the answer is still, NO.
Welcome to FT, by the way!
Aug 16, 2006 | 3:41 pm
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Kudo's on the attitude to have... thats the best and brightest quote I think I've read or heard in a long time... and thanks for the previous reply!
Originally Posted by Bart
I've been reminding my officers at the beginning of my shift: "Read the prohibited items list but do not read into it."
Aug 16, 2006 | 3:45 pm
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Originally Posted by galileosdaughter1
I am currently trying to figure out how to "smuggle" onboard a small amount of hand lotion and anti-bacterial gel.
This is what I plan to do when I next travel next week. Anyone else have any better suggestions?
Aug 16, 2006 | 4:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Points Scrounger
Solid ones are a single piece, with a plastic screw stick through the center to advance the remaining deodorant forward as necessary.
Gel ones have a solid plastic "grid" at the top; the gel oozes through there when the deodorant-advance mechanism is deployed.
Gel ones have a solid plastic "grid" at the top; the gel oozes through there when the deodorant-advance mechanism is deployed.
It is getting progressively more difficult to maintain any degree of respect for people that I should want doing their jobs.
Aug 16, 2006 | 9:16 pm
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I have a 13 hour trip to Tokyo on Monday and normally use non-prescription nasal spray on long flights. My understanding is that nasal spray should now be allowed under the revised rules concerning non-prescription medicine and liquids. Is this revision pretty clear or subject to local variation? 
Aug 16, 2006 | 9:47 pm
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just a thought but how 'bout making this thread a sticky (or at least until things settle down a bit) 