TSA Adjusting Prohibitions/Designated "Ask Bart" Thread
Aug 21, 2006 | 11:14 am
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Originally Posted by Superguy
Totally agree! ^
But if the only two options are for taxpayers to "foot" (hah hah) the bill or for proper protection or for those people who are concerned to provide their own protection, I'd rather everyone provide their own protection.
I think the whole mess is bologna, and I'll complain to my representatives, avoid flying when possible, etc. However, I will have to fly commercially every now and then while this circus is still in town. So in addition to voicing my utter disapproval for these policies, in the instances when I have no choice but to abide by them, I may want something between my feet and the nasty floor.
Aug 21, 2006 | 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by swise
Yeah, actually, I agree, too.
But if the only two options are for taxpayers to "foot" (hah hah) the bill or for proper protection or for those people who are concerned to provide their own protection, I'd rather everyone provide their own protection.
I think the whole mess is bologna, and I'll complain to my representatives, avoid flying when possible, etc. However, I will have to fly commercially every now and then while this circus is still in town. So in addition to voicing my utter disapproval for these policies, in the instances when I have no choice but to abide by them, I may want something between my feet and the nasty floor.
But if the only two options are for taxpayers to "foot" (hah hah) the bill or for proper protection or for those people who are concerned to provide their own protection, I'd rather everyone provide their own protection.
I think the whole mess is bologna, and I'll complain to my representatives, avoid flying when possible, etc. However, I will have to fly commercially every now and then while this circus is still in town. So in addition to voicing my utter disapproval for these policies, in the instances when I have no choice but to abide by them, I may want something between my feet and the nasty floor.
Besides, if the government has to pick up the tab, we all know that the booties would cost 5-10x the price that we would normally pay for them anyway.
Aug 21, 2006 | 12:19 pm
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OK, interesting experience at IND today: I used the line with the puffer machine, because a) it was short, and b) I saw a lady go through the WTMD with her flip flops on! 
So I get puffed, then when I reach the WTMD, I'm directed to take off my shoes (after a funny look from me, I did it.) I then watched as others who had non-shoes (like sandals) walk through.
Comments? Is it the TSA using a little common sense again, or is this checkpoint not following its own policies?
So I get puffed, then when I reach the WTMD, I'm directed to take off my shoes (after a funny look from me, I did it.) I then watched as others who had non-shoes (like sandals) walk through.
Comments? Is it the TSA using a little common sense again, or is this checkpoint not following its own policies?
Aug 21, 2006 | 12:26 pm
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Originally Posted by IceTrojan
Comments? Is it the TSA using a little common sense again, or is this checkpoint not following its own policies?
Aug 21, 2006 | 1:39 pm
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When we went to S. Africa in April, I bought a pair of crocheted slippers to wear during the long flight. I had on shoes with a metal button on each one, so I slipped them off and put the crocheted slippers on to go through the metal detector. The TSA guy nodded, and said "that's a GREAT idea". Should I assume he wouldn't think it was such a great idea this week, when we leave for Copenhagen?
Aug 21, 2006 | 2:14 pm
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Originally Posted by IceTrojan
Comments? Is it the TSA using a little common sense again, or is this checkpoint not following its own policies?
Aug 21, 2006 | 2:24 pm
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Originally Posted by LessO2
TSA has told me that shoes on a baby have to come off now, so it sounds like like an aberation than anything.
Aug 21, 2006 | 3:25 pm
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Originally Posted by LessO2
TSA has told me that shoes on a baby have to come off now, so it sounds like like an aberation than anything.
Personally, I continue to believe that the shoe carnival could be eliminated without any adverse effect on air safety. But if there is going to be a rule, it should be enforced for everyone (unless of course you support profiling
)I would however be curious to know if sufficient explosive gel could be stored in baby shoes.
Aug 21, 2006 | 3:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Boraxo
That makes sense, the terrorists who blowing up civilians in Israel routinely use children as suicide bombers.
Personally, I continue to believe that the shoe carnival could be eliminated without any adverse effect on air safety. But if there is going to be a rule, it should be enforced for everyone (unless of course you support profiling )
I would however be curious to know if sufficient explosive gel could be stored in baby shoes.
Personally, I continue to believe that the shoe carnival could be eliminated without any adverse effect on air safety. But if there is going to be a rule, it should be enforced for everyone (unless of course you support profiling
)I would however be curious to know if sufficient explosive gel could be stored in baby shoes.
More gel can be stored in a baby's diaper than in their shoes. And which TSAer is going to volunteer to be a diaper monitor & diaper changer?
Does that require danger pay?
Aug 21, 2006 | 4:44 pm
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Originally Posted by AINITFUNNY
Just wait till you end up in emergency at the end of your flight with a MRSA infection later FIGHTING FOR YOUR VERY LIFE, your entire bodyand bloodstream septic and resistant to most ALL antibiotics in our medical armory against disease.
Or, have a nice big dose of NECROTIZING FASCITIS (flesh eating disease) start working its way turning your arms and legs black eating them away and perhaps you won't scoff at the danger presented and think twice about even TOUCHING socks that have touched that carpet let alone wearing them for the duration of a long flight where a hot sweaty foot can multiply any bacteria you picked up on your socks a millionfold.
Or, have a nice big dose of NECROTIZING FASCITIS (flesh eating disease) start working its way turning your arms and legs black eating them away and perhaps you won't scoff at the danger presented and think twice about even TOUCHING socks that have touched that carpet let alone wearing them for the duration of a long flight where a hot sweaty foot can multiply any bacteria you picked up on your socks a millionfold.
Aug 21, 2006 | 5:04 pm
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Originally Posted by TSA-Website
Please pack liquids, gels, and aerosols in your checked baggage even if you do not normally check a bag.
And talking about wearing socks under shoes during the shoe carnival.... I'd rather be barefoot, at least I can go into the bathroom and wash my feet (I'd probably get a few wierd looks) but I can't wash the socks and wear them right away. If I wore socks or booties going through security I'd surely throw them right away.
And no one answered my KY question.
Aug 21, 2006 | 5:43 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
While babies are children, not all children are babies. Haven't yet heard of baby suicide bombers, although I have heard of bombing babies, often by state-actors.
More gel can be stored in a baby's diaper than in their shoes. And which TSAer is going to volunteer to be a diaper monitor & diaper changer? Does that require danger pay?
More gel can be stored in a baby's diaper than in their shoes. And which TSAer is going to volunteer to be a diaper monitor & diaper changer?
Does that require danger pay? I agree that it is a waste of time to search babies, but it is not wholly irrational to do so given the low value that the terrorist types place on human life - any life - including that of children and other civilians.
Aug 21, 2006 | 6:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Boraxo
That makes sense, the terrorists who blowing up civilians in Israel routinely use children as suicide bombers.
Aug 21, 2006 | 6:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Boraxo
That makes sense, the terrorists who blowing up civilians in Israel routinely use children as suicide bombers."
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Nice not so thinly veiled political commentary.
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..... so that is a non-sequiter to this thread and this forum.
Aug 21, 2006 | 7:46 pm
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I'd hate to think that we are going to profile babies. I would say that I hope terrorists never sink this low, but I know that they would do it if it meant furthering their agendas.
It is sad to think that babies could (or would) be martyred against their will by some sick SOB who loads their diaper with explosives and then detonates it onboard.
The only possible way I see TSA or any airport security being able to fight this is if TSA required parents to change their babies into sterile TSA supplied diapers there at the screening area and supplying them with some for the flight. It is amazing that we are sinking this low as a society.
It is sad to think that babies could (or would) be martyred against their will by some sick SOB who loads their diaper with explosives and then detonates it onboard.
The only possible way I see TSA or any airport security being able to fight this is if TSA required parents to change their babies into sterile TSA supplied diapers there at the screening area and supplying them with some for the flight. It is amazing that we are sinking this low as a society.