Feb 6, 2020, 10:47 am
Last edit by: rrgg
- NO POLITICS IN THIS THREAD. To discuss the politics of what has happened, please use the separate designated thread.
- Existing NY GE members are not affected until the expiration of their current membership (renewals are blocked)
- Rule applies to:
- Vehicle exports
- Applications and renewals for GE, NEXUS, SENTRI, FAST
- Separate precheck memberships (not connected to GE, NEXUS, SENTRI or FAST) are not affected
- Fees will be refunded, according to CFB officer.
- Letter from DHS website
- DHS statement Feb. 6
- The following is from this article: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/glo...s-affected-ttp
- 86,000 people will be "affected immediately...including those with pending applications and those up for renewal"
- 800,000 people could be affected over five years
- "[T]hose people no longer eligible for TTP who had pending applications will receive refunds"
- Statements from the NY Attorney General
[Updated] Global Entry, Trusted Traveler Programs Reinstated for NY Residents
Feb 6, 2020, 5:28 pm
#166
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: YYZ
Programs: TK*G, Marriott Gold, Hilton Diamond, IHG Plat
Posts: 678
Ontario ended the Enhanced DL program all together last June. I wonder how long other EDLs will continue. The EDL is a bilateral collaboration between US and Canada as far as I recall.
Feb 6, 2020, 5:38 pm
#167
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 7,904
That's completely irrelevant. My wife has GE and is a US LPR (which did require some sort of background check but not a check of foreign DMV records). And, if she got a DUI in a foreign country after becoming a US LPR, DHS would never have known about that, and there was no additional information requested from foreign countries required for GE approval.
Feb 6, 2020, 5:46 pm
#168
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: UA MileagePlus (Premier Gold); Hilton HHonors (Gold); Chase Ultimate Rewards; Amex Plat
Posts: 6,679
Except she didn't have a valid US state DL at the time she applied. So no (US) DMV records. Which means DMV records are not even necessary for this, and shouldn't even be used, period. All DMV records on her would have resided in a foreign database, which DHS did not query.
Feb 6, 2020, 6:06 pm
#169
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Miami, Florida
Programs: AA ExPlat, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Spire, Hilton Gold
Posts: 4,009
Except she didn't have a valid US state DL at the time she applied. So no (US) DMV records. Which means DMV records are not even necessary for this, and shouldn't even be used, period. All DMV records on her would have resided in a foreign database, which DHS did not query.
It seems obvious that DMV records would and should be used, since they’re the most common form of ID used in the U.S.
Feb 6, 2020, 6:44 pm
#170
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 7,904
She was eligible for a DL and so the DMV search was probably treated like a citizen without a DL.
Back to my original comment, I was really referring to non resident non citizens applying for GE. I don’t know what the background check is for that applicant but it may be different.
Back to my original comment, I was really referring to non resident non citizens applying for GE. I don’t know what the background check is for that applicant but it may be different.
Feb 6, 2020, 7:47 pm
#171
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: NY
Programs: AA, Hilton
Posts: 1,575
We just got word that NY residents will be prevented from applying online for GE.
Conditionally approved applicants and those in "pending risk assessment" phases will be cancelled, and refunded. Any residents who walk in for Enrollment on Arrival interviews will be told no.
Current members of NY will retain their membership until it expires.
-CBPO
Conditionally approved applicants and those in "pending risk assessment" phases will be cancelled, and refunded. Any residents who walk in for Enrollment on Arrival interviews will be told no.
Current members of NY will retain their membership until it expires.
-CBPO
Wisdom would say the DHS holds off any changes to pending interviews instead of outright canceling pending further exploration of the issue. Screw them. I wouldn’t reapply.
Feb 6, 2020, 7:50 pm
#172
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: UA MileagePlus (Premier Gold); Hilton HHonors (Gold); Chase Ultimate Rewards; Amex Plat
Posts: 6,679
DMV records should only be used for anything related to motor vehicles. The DMV database is NOT a criminal database and if you are actually convicted of a serious crime, it would show up in other places. GE interview officers confirmed (when I had my interview) that they don't care about traffic infractions, because I disclosed that I had been convicted of speeding and the officer said it was a non issue.
Feb 6, 2020, 7:53 pm
#173
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Miami, Florida
Programs: AA ExPlat, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Spire, Hilton Gold
Posts: 4,009
DMV records should only be used for anything related to motor vehicles. The DMV database is NOT a criminal database and if you are actually convicted of a serious crime, it would show up in other places. GE interview officers confirmed (when I had my interview) that they don't care about traffic infractions, because I disclosed that I had been convicted of speeding and the officer said it was a non issue.
Feb 6, 2020, 8:08 pm
#174
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Miami, Florida
Programs: AA ExPlat, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Spire, Hilton Gold
Posts: 4,009
Feb 6, 2020, 8:15 pm
#175
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: UA MileagePlus (Premier Gold); Hilton HHonors (Gold); Chase Ultimate Rewards; Amex Plat
Posts: 6,679
DHS looks at criminal records, as indicated by their questionnaire. Traffic infractions and stuff like that are irrelevant. What are they going to find in there, that you had outstanding parking tickets? They don't care about such things anyway.
Feb 6, 2020, 8:19 pm
#176
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Miami, Florida
Programs: AA ExPlat, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Spire, Hilton Gold
Posts: 4,009
You mean Google? Probably because you have no access to it, and the people that hold it won't give it up without court orders and demonstration of a need to know.
DHS looks at criminal records, as indicated by their questionnaire. Traffic infractions and stuff like that are irrelevant. What are they going to find in there, that you had outstanding parking tickets? They don't care about such things anyway.
DHS looks at criminal records, as indicated by their questionnaire. Traffic infractions and stuff like that are irrelevant. What are they going to find in there, that you had outstanding parking tickets? They don't care about such things anyway.
By your logic, it should be illegal for a bank to ask for your driver license when cashing a check. (There’s also no way Google is a better or faster source of ID verification for the average adult American than the state DMVs.)
Feb 6, 2020, 8:22 pm
#177
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,254
People applying for Global Entry have a passport. Passports are a better form of ID then a drivers license.
Feb 6, 2020, 8:24 pm
#178
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Miami, Florida
Programs: AA ExPlat, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Spire, Hilton Gold
Posts: 4,009
Feb 6, 2020, 9:20 pm
#179
Join Date: May 2016
Location: NYC
Posts: 265
This may be a stupid question -
I technically still have a non-NY state license. I'm curious whether they base NY residency on your current address (since the application asks for address history), or is it based on the state ID info you provide? It's probably the former, but would be nice if it was the latter.
I technically still have a non-NY state license. I'm curious whether they base NY residency on your current address (since the application asks for address history), or is it based on the state ID info you provide? It's probably the former, but would be nice if it was the latter.
Feb 6, 2020, 9:23 pm
#180
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Miami, Florida
Programs: AA ExPlat, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Spire, Hilton Gold
Posts: 4,009
This may be a stupid question -
I technically still have a non-NY state license. I'm curious whether they base NY residency on your current address (since the application asks for address history), or is it based on the state ID info you provide? It's probably the former, but would be nice if it was the latter.
I technically still have a non-NY state license. I'm curious whether they base NY residency on your current address (since the application asks for address history), or is it based on the state ID info you provide? It's probably the former, but would be nice if it was the latter.