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Old Feb 6, 2020, 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by shipcamein
Interestingly, you cannot fly without your REAL ID - which you cannot get without proof of status. So none of the folks taking advantage of this New York law will suffer. The other 95% will, though. No other way to frame it.
Real ID is not now, nor ever planned to be "Required" to fly.

It is one of MANY government ID's that can be used
I have a passport and a military ID (Retired) my life will not be impacted in any way shape or form if I never get a Real ID
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Old Feb 6, 2020, 2:52 pm
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Currently, you can be eligible for Global Entry if you are a citizen of Argentina, India, Columbia, UK, Germany, Panama, Singapore, South Korea, Switzerland, Taiwan, and Mexico.

You can receive a NY drivers license without being a US citizen. The law was changed to reduce the number of unlicensed drivers in the state. The lack of citizenship does not prohibit someone from getting a driver's license.

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Old Feb 6, 2020, 2:55 pm
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So did NYS suddenly manage to reliably sort out DHS queries with NLETS from non-DHS federal govt queries before approving a response?
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Old Feb 6, 2020, 3:41 pm
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Originally Posted by LHSEN
Don’t think this statement from NY AG means anything ...

https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2020...estrict-global
Nope. I didn’t see anything in there in that even attempts to refute the claims from DHS.
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Old Feb 6, 2020, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Red259
No. That is not how it works. If you refuse to blow you get arrested. DMV administrative hearings have nothing to do with the criminal justice system and whether or not you end up with a criminal conviction. Its a by-product of the arrest.
You might be right. Regardless, I am off to get some popcorn so I have something to munch on while listening to the court challenge.
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Old Feb 6, 2020, 3:59 pm
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I believe NEXUS allows for expedited processing at the Canadian border. How is one supposed to do so if they cannot verify your vehicle?
Unlike SENTRI, NEXUS isn't tied to a vehicle. I've used NEXUS crossings many times in a rental car.
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Old Feb 6, 2020, 4:20 pm
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The whole thing doesn’t make sense at all.
While a New Yorker who is a US citizen can’t get Global Entry, an eligible foreign passport holder can get it......DHS can not even access foreign country’s DMV recorders.
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Old Feb 6, 2020, 4:22 pm
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Originally Posted by pigx5
The whole thing doesn’t make sense at all.
While a New Yorker who is a US citizen can’t get Global Entry, a eligible foreign passport holder can get it......DHS can not even access foreign country’s DMV recorders.
Unlike Americans, Argentinians and Colombians, et al., aren’t entering the U.S. with their Argentinian or Colombian driver license.
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Old Feb 6, 2020, 4:28 pm
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This DHS block against NY residents also hits people who don’t have any DL.

This DHS block against NY residents doesn’t hit people who are residents of other states or countries even if the latter have foreign driving licenses or other out of state driver licenses.
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Old Feb 6, 2020, 4:33 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
This DHS block against NY residents also hits people who don’t have any DL.
This has been covered about six times already. How is DHS supposed to verify if someone is being truthful about having or not having an NYS driver license without the cooperation of NYS DMV?
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Old Feb 6, 2020, 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by joe_miami
Unlike Americans, Argentinians and Colombians, et al., aren’t entering the U.S. with their Argentinian or Colombian driver license.
Who is allowed to enter the US with ANY drivers license? A drivers license is not a valid identification document for crossing international borders, period.
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Old Feb 6, 2020, 4:47 pm
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Originally Posted by STS-134
Who is allowed to enter the US with ANY drivers license? A drivers license is not a valid identification document for crossing international borders, period.
Some are. A New York “Enhanced,” for example.
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Old Feb 6, 2020, 5:05 pm
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Originally Posted by STS-134
Who is allowed to enter the US with ANY drivers license? A drivers license is not a valid identification document for crossing international borders, period.
It can be a valid ID for crossing international borders in some ways: mainly either as proof of identity for citizenship confirmation to take place, or as a sort of combination of identity and citizenship/legal presence confirmation for migration control purposes.
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Old Feb 6, 2020, 5:18 pm
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Originally Posted by pigx5
The whole thing doesn’t make sense at all.
While a New Yorker who is a US citizen can’t get Global Entry, a eligible foreign passport holder can get it......DHS can not even access foreign country’s DMV recorders.
Do you know what information those countries must give DHS? Maybe there’s additional vetting we don’t know about.
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Old Feb 6, 2020, 5:27 pm
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Originally Posted by rrgg
Do you know what information those countries must give DHS? Maybe there’s additional vetting we don’t know about.
That's completely irrelevant. My wife has GE and is a US LPR (which did require some sort of background check but not a check of foreign DMV records). And, if she got a DUI in a foreign country after becoming a US LPR, DHS would never have known about that, and there was no additional information requested from foreign countries required for GE approval.
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