Feb 6, 2020, 10:47 am
Last edit by: rrgg
- NO POLITICS IN THIS THREAD. To discuss the politics of what has happened, please use the separate designated thread.
- Existing NY GE members are not affected until the expiration of their current membership (renewals are blocked)
- Rule applies to:
- Vehicle exports
- Applications and renewals for GE, NEXUS, SENTRI, FAST
- Separate precheck memberships (not connected to GE, NEXUS, SENTRI or FAST) are not affected
- Fees will be refunded, according to CFB officer.
- Letter from DHS website
- DHS statement Feb. 6
- The following is from this article: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/glo...s-affected-ttp
- 86,000 people will be "affected immediately...including those with pending applications and those up for renewal"
- 800,000 people could be affected over five years
- "[T]hose people no longer eligible for TTP who had pending applications will receive refunds"
- Statements from the NY Attorney General
[Updated] Global Entry, Trusted Traveler Programs Reinstated for NY Residents
Feb 6, 2020, 10:02 pm
#181
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This may be a stupid question -
I technically still have a non-NY state license. I'm curious whether they base NY residency on your current address (since the application asks for address history), or is it based on the state ID info you provide? It's probably the former, but would be nice if it was the latter.
I technically still have a non-NY state license. I'm curious whether they base NY residency on your current address (since the application asks for address history), or is it based on the state ID info you provide? It's probably the former, but would be nice if it was the latter.
Feb 6, 2020, 10:48 pm
#182
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You realize the first part of the process is a basic ID verification and background check, right?
By your logic, it should be illegal for a bank to ask for your driver license when cashing a check. (There’s also no way Google is a better or faster source of ID verification for the average adult American than the state DMVs.)
By your logic, it should be illegal for a bank to ask for your driver license when cashing a check. (There’s also no way Google is a better or faster source of ID verification for the average adult American than the state DMVs.)
People can show State ID, ID NYC(in NYC), Passport (US or issued by other country), Passport Card....etc....
Driver's License has nothing to do with can you open a bank account nor can you deposit or not.
Plus, you can do mobile deposit with most banks.
Basic ID verification does not need a driver's license. You can verify with State ID, Passport (US or issued by other country), and Passport Card.
Feb 6, 2020, 11:00 pm
#183
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If a Taiwanese wants to apply for Global Entry, this person needs:
1. Republic of China (Taiwan) passport.
2. National ID card or Driver's license
3. Police Criminal Record Certificate
DL is an option and not a requirement.
Feb 6, 2020, 11:01 pm
#184
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Feb 6, 2020, 11:13 pm
#185
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My conditioanlly-approved renewal application was cancelled because I had a NY address.
I can use a MA address and get mail there. Does anyone think I'll be ok if I change the address and reapply?
I can use a MA address and get mail there. Does anyone think I'll be ok if I change the address and reapply?
Feb 6, 2020, 11:37 pm
#186
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Sadly, not even fighting for its own state residents ... not even a sign to do that.
I’d like to see how the state is going to fight back, and not just blah blah ...
Last edited by LHSEN; Feb 6, 2020 at 11:46 pm
Feb 7, 2020, 12:13 am
#187
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Spoke to a friend this morning who runs a small financial business. He's looking to move his business outside NY so he and his employees can renew.
Feb 7, 2020, 12:50 am
#188
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 17
I think a CC company will take your side when a vendor doesn’t hold up its end of the bargain. You buy a product (that’s what GE is) and then they change the rules on you part way through your membership and make it impossible for you to use it. Is your 1 year old kid going to clear customs on his/her own?
My fees were refunded by Amex, so I don’t really care. But for someone who paid out of pocket for this, I’d be livid.
My fees were refunded by Amex, so I don’t really care. But for someone who paid out of pocket for this, I’d be livid.
Feb 7, 2020, 3:14 am
#190
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NYS should allow people to opt in to allow DHS to be able to see their record.
In NH you can opt out if having some information saved by the state but it impacts certain abilities such as online license renewal.
I would suspect the opt in solution would be the easiest solution here.
There were some states who even held out on Real ID such as Maine. They eventually surrendered because of the hassle it created. DHS is going to keep this policy and then hopefully it changes after Nov...
NYS should allow people to opt in to allow DHS to be able to see their record.
In NH you can opt out if having some information saved by the state but it impacts certain abilities such as online license renewal.
I would suspect the opt in solution would be the easiest solution here.
There were some states who even held out on Real ID such as Maine. They eventually surrendered because of the hassle it created. DHS is going to keep this policy and then hopefully it changes after Nov...
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Feb 7, 2020, 4:26 am
#191
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US DHS isn’t doing this because it wants NY to surrender NY’s data of people who are GE applicants. DHS is doing this because it wants NY to give up NY’s data about everyone to whom NY has issued ID in recent years — even the data about those who aren’t and won’t be GE applicants.
Don’t count on applicant opt-in flying with DHS. even if NY were allowing that to happen. DHS wants it all, not just from/for GE applicants.
Don’t count on applicant opt-in flying with DHS. even if NY were allowing that to happen. DHS wants it all, not just from/for GE applicants.
Feb 7, 2020, 4:35 am
#192
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There's finally been some communication from DHS (https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/02/06/...nt-cbp-trusted) to the country as a whole, and not just the small subset who watch Fox News Opinion programming.
Feb 7, 2020, 5:10 am
#193
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The federal government has other states as targets after NY.
My suggestion to those Americans who are interested in having GE membership and are currently potential (new or renewal) GE applicants resident in other states: hurry up and get the application done before they also come after your state in the way they have come after NY; or save the money and don’t apply for GE unless and until after it becomes clear what happens with NY; and if you’re already conditionally approved and not a NY-resident, best of luck with finalizing your application with the interview as soon as possible.
My suggestion to those Americans who are interested in having GE membership and are currently potential (new or renewal) GE applicants resident in other states: hurry up and get the application done before they also come after your state in the way they have come after NY; or save the money and don’t apply for GE unless and until after it becomes clear what happens with NY; and if you’re already conditionally approved and not a NY-resident, best of luck with finalizing your application with the interview as soon as possible.
Feb 7, 2020, 6:08 am
#194
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US DHS isn’t doing this because it wants NY to surrender NY’s data of people who are GE applicants. DHS is doing this because it wants NY to give up NY’s data about everyone to whom NY has issued ID in recent years — even the data about those who aren’t and won’t be GE applicants.
Don’t count on applicant opt-in flying with DHS. even if NY were allowing that to happen. DHS wants it all, not just from/for GE applicants.
Don’t count on applicant opt-in flying with DHS. even if NY were allowing that to happen. DHS wants it all, not just from/for GE applicants.
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ETA: I heard last night that DHS could extend this to PreCheck enrollees as well.
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Feb 7, 2020, 7:20 am
#195
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