TSA wants to get more intimate when doing passenger pat downs.
#661
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For some reason, this video has come around again on @TSA and is garnering as much outrage as it first did 10 months ago. That's a good thing. I wonder if the screener is still employed by TSA and, more important, if the supervisor who egged him on, seeming to enjoy both the child's and the mother's discomfort, is still employed.
#662
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Someplace in amongst the @TSA comments on the video, one person claimed that he/she had a similar situation and the screeners involved were reprimanded or fired. Is that true? Who knows.
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#663
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One lousy pocket knife
In all of 2017, the only "dangerous" item found by sexually assaulting passengers at DEN was a pocket knife.
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Screeners can now use front of hand in crotches & on breasts
One pocketknife found in one year during screener pat-downs at DIA | FOX31 Denver
According to those familiar with the new security tactics, same-sex screeners were given the greenlight to use the front of their hands-on passengers’ breasts and crotches.
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I don't see any age restrictions, meaning adults are free to handle the genitals of children under the guise of 'security'.
#666
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This saga needs to become part of the current social debate about sexual harassment and abuse. That's the only way it can gain traction with the wider public, notions about the constitution or libertarian ideals are on lost on John Doe.
You'll need social media savy folks with great A-list connections and a simple but effective hashtag to publicize it. Phone calls or letters to your Congress reps do nothing. Use the power of social media to incite change, embarrass the government into submission.
You'll need social media savy folks with great A-list connections and a simple but effective hashtag to publicize it. Phone calls or letters to your Congress reps do nothing. Use the power of social media to incite change, embarrass the government into submission.
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This saga needs to become part of the current social debate about sexual harassment and abuse. That's the only way it can gain traction with the wider public, notions about the constitution or libertarian ideals are on lost on John Doe.
You'll need social media savy folks with great A-list connections and a simple but effective hashtag to publicize it. Phone calls or letters to your Congress reps do nothing. Use the power of social media to incite change, embarrass the government into submission.
You'll need social media savy folks with great A-list connections and a simple but effective hashtag to publicize it. Phone calls or letters to your Congress reps do nothing. Use the power of social media to incite change, embarrass the government into submission.
#668
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I followed up on your idea a few weeks ago, others had the same suggestions, so I've been trying to popularize the #MeTooByTSA hashtag. I also received the twitter handle @MeTooByTSA, <redacted by moderator>
I've sent out copies with the #MeTooByTSA and @MeTooByTSA hashtag and handle of the security video and citizen's ARREST I made of the TSA agent (always reminding, I do NOT suggest you try to arrest anyone unless you know what you're doing, or more than likely you'll end up in legal jeopardy yourself instead with liabilities, so do not follow my info as advice; I'm suggesting you do NOT arrest anyone (yet) but I'm writing up information on the topic to publish ... it's complicated. My federal civil rights case is moving along, never easy, but I continue to be very successful.
You can find my postings on twitter by searching on the hashtag or handle above. I even have new info you'll be excited to hear about, and if I do some stand-up "hits" (interviews) with media, I'm going to try to mention FlyerTalk (h/t moderator) since you've been good to me ;-)
So far I have a few hundred followers to @MeTooByTSA, in case anyone here wants to follow me incl Flytertalk that I'm already following on Twitter, including a few B-List followers including media producers and journalists there while I'm working to get the attention of some A-list folks -- that's likely to change very soon, from some media events I have coming up, plus new evidence I'll be showing of #TSACoverUp and #MeTooByTSA ! So ... "hold my beer" on the publicity front .. this will be MUCH more in the news (and I'll post here when it is) ... we're going to win the fight against excessive use of force and screener liability in pat-down searches as violating the 4th Amendment (and I know that may frustrate some folks, but that's the narrow and specific topic I'm contesting).
I've sent out copies with the #MeTooByTSA and @MeTooByTSA hashtag and handle of the security video and citizen's ARREST I made of the TSA agent (always reminding, I do NOT suggest you try to arrest anyone unless you know what you're doing, or more than likely you'll end up in legal jeopardy yourself instead with liabilities, so do not follow my info as advice; I'm suggesting you do NOT arrest anyone (yet) but I'm writing up information on the topic to publish ... it's complicated. My federal civil rights case is moving along, never easy, but I continue to be very successful.
You can find my postings on twitter by searching on the hashtag or handle above. I even have new info you'll be excited to hear about, and if I do some stand-up "hits" (interviews) with media, I'm going to try to mention FlyerTalk (h/t moderator) since you've been good to me ;-)
So far I have a few hundred followers to @MeTooByTSA, in case anyone here wants to follow me incl Flytertalk that I'm already following on Twitter, including a few B-List followers including media producers and journalists there while I'm working to get the attention of some A-list folks -- that's likely to change very soon, from some media events I have coming up, plus new evidence I'll be showing of #TSACoverUp and #MeTooByTSA ! So ... "hold my beer" on the publicity front .. this will be MUCH more in the news (and I'll post here when it is) ... we're going to win the fight against excessive use of force and screener liability in pat-down searches as violating the 4th Amendment (and I know that may frustrate some folks, but that's the narrow and specific topic I'm contesting).
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#669
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I followed up on your idea a few weeks ago, others had the same suggestions, so I've been trying to popularize the #MeTooByTSA hashtag. I also received the twitter handle @MeTooByTSA, <redacted by moderator>
I've sent out copies with the #MeTooByTSA and @MeTooByTSA hashtag and handle of the security video and citizen's ARREST I made of the TSA agent (always reminding, I do NOT suggest you try to arrest anyone unless you know what you're doing, or more than likely you'll end up in legal jeopardy yourself instead with liabilities, so do not follow my info as advice; I'm suggesting you do NOT arrest anyone (yet) but I'm writing up information on the topic to publish ... it's complicated. My federal civil rights case is moving along, never easy, but I continue to be very successful.
You can find my postings on twitter by searching on the hashtag or handle above. I even have new info you'll be excited to hear about, and if I do some stand-up "hits" (interviews) with media, I'm going to try to mention FlyerTalk (h/t moderator) since you've been good to me ;-)
So far I have a few hundred followers to @MeTooByTSA, in case anyone here wants to follow me incl Flytertalk that I'm already following on Twitter, including a few B-List followers including media producers and journalists there while I'm working to get the attention of some A-list folks -- that's likely to change very soon, from some media events I have coming up, plus new evidence I'll be showing of #TSACoverUp and #MeTooByTSA ! So ... "hold my beer" on the publicity front .. this will be MUCH more in the news (and I'll post here when it is) ... we're going to win the fight against excessive use of force and screener liability in pat-down searches as violating the 4th Amendment (and I know that may frustrate some folks, but that's the narrow and specific topic I'm contesting).
I've sent out copies with the #MeTooByTSA and @MeTooByTSA hashtag and handle of the security video and citizen's ARREST I made of the TSA agent (always reminding, I do NOT suggest you try to arrest anyone unless you know what you're doing, or more than likely you'll end up in legal jeopardy yourself instead with liabilities, so do not follow my info as advice; I'm suggesting you do NOT arrest anyone (yet) but I'm writing up information on the topic to publish ... it's complicated. My federal civil rights case is moving along, never easy, but I continue to be very successful.
You can find my postings on twitter by searching on the hashtag or handle above. I even have new info you'll be excited to hear about, and if I do some stand-up "hits" (interviews) with media, I'm going to try to mention FlyerTalk (h/t moderator) since you've been good to me ;-)
So far I have a few hundred followers to @MeTooByTSA, in case anyone here wants to follow me incl Flytertalk that I'm already following on Twitter, including a few B-List followers including media producers and journalists there while I'm working to get the attention of some A-list folks -- that's likely to change very soon, from some media events I have coming up, plus new evidence I'll be showing of #TSACoverUp and #MeTooByTSA ! So ... "hold my beer" on the publicity front .. this will be MUCH more in the news (and I'll post here when it is) ... we're going to win the fight against excessive use of force and screener liability in pat-down searches as violating the 4th Amendment (and I know that may frustrate some folks, but that's the narrow and specific topic I'm contesting).
#670
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I think it is notable that TSA screeners can in fact get cash rewards for screening activities.
https://ia801507.us.archive.org/2/it...from%20TSA.pdf
https://ia801507.us.archive.org/2/it...from%20TSA.pdf
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I think it is notable that TSA screeners can in fact get cash rewards for screening activities.
https://ia801507.us.archive.org/2/it...from%20TSA.pdf
https://ia801507.us.archive.org/2/it...from%20TSA.pdf
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#673
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Ahh, you noticed! :-)
But wait, there's more info directly on this item coming soon.
Apparently, it's "common" for screeners to hit passengers and to get cash payouts and bonuses in return (really?! YES!) ... and appears to be a game that TSA screeners are playing with TSA management encouragement and taxpayer funds.
That's why there are going to be hashtags #MeTooByTSA *and* #TSACoverUp
or my handle @MeTooByTSA
But wait, there's more info directly on this item coming soon.
Apparently, it's "common" for screeners to hit passengers and to get cash payouts and bonuses in return (really?! YES!) ... and appears to be a game that TSA screeners are playing with TSA management encouragement and taxpayer funds.
That's why there are going to be hashtags #MeTooByTSA *and* #TSACoverUp
or my handle @MeTooByTSA
#674
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I think it is notable that TSA screeners can in fact get cash rewards for screening activities.
https://ia801507.us.archive.org/2/it...from%20TSA.pdf
https://ia801507.us.archive.org/2/it...from%20TSA.pdf
Wow. Just, wow.
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The last sentence of the "justification" is incredible - the TSA says it was in Polson's best interest not to "[keep] a level head" with the clear implication that he should have become belligerent or combative but because he did not do so he is being rewarded.
Wow. Just, wow.
Wow. Just, wow.