Absolutely wrong. No one should ever have to answer questions of any kind by a government actor to fly as a passenger on a commercial aircraft in the United States. I don't care what the question is. It is intrusive, disgusting, un-American harassment. :td:


Every last bit of harassment by this disgusting, un-American agency is worth fighting back against. TSA is a disease that should be eradicated from our airports.

But the boarding pass he printed was his.

That's certainly painfully obvious.

If it reveals absolutely nothing, then stop waisting my f!@#$%] money and my f!@#$%] time.

Yay for selectively quoting me. I stated that IF your ID is really yours it reveals nothing, so it's not a privacy intrusion.

As for all the people claiming that terrorists are smarter than the teens who get caught at clubs with this technique. Tell me, does THIS guy really strike you as all that smart? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid

Do you think if the TDC had asked Reid to state his name he would have been more likely to be caught?

If the multitude of 'layers' of screening are effective, I don't care who gets past the checkpoint and on the plane. I don't care if they are who they say they are or not.

If everyone has done his job and the physical screening of bags and bodies is done correctly at the checkpoint, no one is getting through with something that can take over an airplane.

Airport workers who don't have to say their names and who regularly enter and re-enter unchallenged may get something dangerous into the sterile area, but we're not worried about that, right?

Assuming that it did belong to him (and not to the airline) it still is just a piece of paper with absolutely no value.

I cannot fly from place A to place B with your boarding pass. If I attempt it, and I am caught, I will be arrested for theft of service.

Did you lose your boarding pass? You can get another for free from a kiosk in the airport, from a ticket agent, or from a gate agent.

I would not want to be the person who files a police report of theft because a TSA screener walked away with my valueless boarding pass -- especially if he returns it a short while later.

Given Reid wasn't flying on a fake ID, no, of course it wouldn't have prevented that. I'm simply stating that the people they're trying to catch with this technique are of that intelligence level.

If it catches even one person flying on a fake ID, it seems worth it to me because it is so fast and non-intrusive.

Even if that person is NOT a terrorist or doesn't have any ill intent?

How old are you?

I get it now. You're not worried about terrorists bringing weapons on airplanes, you're worried about people flying with fake ID. Why should this be within the scope of the TSA? Shouldn't it be the airlines worrying about losing revenue to those flying on other people's tickets?

Well, here's one example I could see occurring and that EASILY catching. Imagine you have a twin brother who bought a plane ticket he couldn't use, and you were interested in going instead. The ticket is non-transferrable. He says "hey man, I trust you, borrow my passport to use as ID and go on the trip."

I could see a tired, anxious traveller easily tripping over "their" name in such a situation. Though it'd be better if it was random, not every person in line, to catch people off-guard.

Yes, in this hypothetical situation, the person poses no risk to airplane security. But I can still see it being a feasible type of situation that could easily occur and likely get caught by such checks.

ID is not security. I'd be very pleased to see the ID requirement 100% scrapped, as well as 100% of the TSA's ... kicked out of the airport.

Um...it's not fast and non-intrusive if suddenly the checkpoint is swarming with folks in blue, LE, suits, etc (which it likely will be).

That actually jeopardizes my safety because it's a distraction (as well as a delay) because both pax and TSOs are playing lookie-loo to see what's going on instead of staying focused on actual aviation security (instead of ID fraud).

The checkpoint is not supposed to be a universal dragnet to catch any and all offenders. It's sole function was supposed to be to ensure that contraband that may pose a risk to aviation security. Fake IDs, large amounts of cash, multiple personal checks in sequence, arabic flash cards, reluctance or inability to say one's name in the tone/volume/eye contact/pronunciation demanded by the TDC - none of these pose a threat to aviation safety.

Do you agree with the rules that say children under 18 don't have to have an ID? We've been assured for years that the reason children's diapers were inspected, booties removed for x-ray screening, screaming toddlers afraid of strangers forced to undergo invasive groping without parents being allowed to try to calm them down (as they could do in a doctor's office) - we've been told that all of this is necessary because the bad guys have a history of using children. Plus custody disputes, child-trafficking and kidnapping occur.

Do you think that in light of those facts, children should be given a free pass (they don't even have to take their shoes off anymore - and the bad guys know it!)? Shouldn't children be required to say the name on their BP too? Seems like they'd be even more likely to stumble if they're traveling under a fake name. Might be unlikely, but it does happen and you want to be safe, correct?

My father and I have the same first and last name, and I'm not a "junior." So there's another scenario where someone can get on a plane with another person's boarding pass. So what?

Which is what the TSA is tasked with. Again, why waste our money and time with useless name games? Since the TSA obviously has extra manpower to burn, concentrate it at weak points in the airport, rather than harass innocent travelers, twins, and sons with the same name.

Easily occur? Wow, we've named two scenarios which have the probability of occurring exactly how often? One time in a million? And how much manpower have we wasted harassing innocent passengers just to catch a twin sneaking in on his brother's ticket?

And if the TSA does, indeed, catch someone traveling on another person's boarding pass, how in all hell does this protect the traveling public?

Would you be onboard with the TDC scanning your BP (as they do) and tapping into databases to see if you have any outstanding traffic tickets (even if within the allowable time to be paid), any liens against you, any warrants, unpaid library fines, unpaid child support or student loans, etc?

Since none of those things have legal penalties affecting freedom of movement, no.

Last I checked, the terms of carriage on any commercial plane ticket are clear that they are NOT transferrable to another person.