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GUWonder Oct 18, 2012 3:41 am


Originally Posted by sbrower (Post 19517309)
At the airports where it is required it is intended as a "punishment" of the TSA, not the passengers. It means they failed an inspection of how well they compare the id to the BP. So someone came up with the idea that if the clerks are required to ask the name of the passenger they will pay more attention. So I just say "Gee, I am surprised that a good location like this one flunked the last inspection. And my last name is pronounced "Code Bravo.""

What if they may consider that pronunciation to be a "threat" -- even a bomb threat -- where there is neither a bomb not a threat? That is normal for paranoid TSA and airline types.

FearFree Oct 18, 2012 7:14 am


Originally Posted by sbrower (Post 19517309)
At the airports where it is required it is intended as a "punishment" of the TSA, not the passengers. It means they failed an inspection of how well they compare the id to the BP. So someone came up with the idea that if the clerks are required to ask the name of the passenger they will pay more attention. So I just say "Gee, I am surprised that a good location like this one flunked the last inspection. And my last name is pronounced "Code Bravo.""

Would make it quicker to get through the line after the TDC is everyone else freezes, and you just walk around them :p

PHLflying Oct 18, 2012 7:34 am

"out of an abundance of caution and for security reasons, I don't say my name in public while travelilng".

We need to teach these folks that their security stuff hurts our security -

the above - getting germs on our feet - our medications being tampered with or taken away - trips and falls from shoe sillieness - stress -

kaszeta Oct 18, 2012 8:14 am


Originally Posted by Carl Johnson (Post 19516738)
When I get time I'm going to photoshop a stack of boarding passes, with names like John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Hugh Jass, I. P. Freeley, etc., and mix the real boarding pass in there, and then sort through the stack in front of the boarding pass clerk

One time my brother was visiting, and asked me to print off his boarding pass. I edited it in Illustrator to change the name to "McLovin".

He was a little annoyed that he had to reprint the boarding pass at the airport, but said that the TSO almost died from laughter.

empedocles Oct 18, 2012 8:20 am

No no no, it's spelled, "Raymond Luxury Yacht," but it's pronounced, "Throat Warbler Mangrove".

rgfloor Oct 18, 2012 9:58 am

What if your name is Ima Bombeck?

Yes I DO have friends with the name of Bombeck!!

mikeef Oct 18, 2012 12:22 pm


Originally Posted by nycedwardd (Post 19513026)
Over the past year I've seen that passengers are required to speak their first and last names at the initial checkpoint when presenting their ID and boarding pass. This does absolutely nothing to add security, and I've gone through saying a different name than my own (Emmanuel Goldstein, from Orwell's 1984). The only thing this did was to add a few minutes before I went through the checkpoint.

It does anger me that we're continually told to do more in the name of fake security. What is the actual requirement? I've read though the ID requirement thread, and that discussion doesn't mention the verbal requirement.

If I go through the check point and refuse to speak my name after presenting ID, can they deny me travel? It's not as if I'm not proving my identity.

It's because of our current war with Eastasia. Actually, we've always been at war with Eastasia.

Mike

GUWonder Oct 18, 2012 12:48 pm


Originally Posted by rgfloor (Post 19519930)
What if your name is Ima Bombeck?

Yes I DO have friends with the name of Bombeck!!

Ida Bombana is a real person's name.

Lkeade Oct 18, 2012 1:27 pm

Stating the name is a joke. We have a strange last name that no one can pronounce. My husband and I went through security one behind the other and each gave a different wrong pronunciation and no one cared.

FearFree Oct 18, 2012 1:35 pm


Originally Posted by Lkeade (Post 19521225)
Stating the name is a joke. We have a strange last name that no one can pronounce. My husband and I went through security one behind the other and each gave a different wrong pronunciation and no one cared.

I have a quite German last name, that is frequently mispronouced (people like to add R's into it for some reason), and the only time a TDC has played the name game with me, I responded with "Cooper." He gave me a strange look, I didn't react, and he handed me my DL back.

To be fair, I almost always use "Cooper" when making restaurant reservations, much easier that way.

TheStinger Oct 18, 2012 1:40 pm


Originally Posted by empedocles (Post 19519296)
No no no, it's spelled, "Raymond Luxury Yacht," but it's pronounced, "Throat Warbler Mangrove".

I love that sketch.

Leviticus Oct 18, 2012 1:54 pm

I agree with the with the FT majority about this being a ridiculous waste of time, and as someone in the IAH thread pointed out, it's quite likely just a way to punish certain TSOs. I have only ever stumbled upon the name game once, thank god, and the procedure was quite useless. The gentlemen questioned the correct pronunciation of my name which is a very rare mishmash of languages.

But regardless, I have always wondered whether they make deaf people spell out their names in sign language.

InkUnderNails Oct 18, 2012 2:06 pm


Originally Posted by Leviticus (Post 19521390)
I agree with the with the FT majority about this being a ridiculous waste of time, and as someone in the IAH thread pointed out, it's quite likely just a way to punish certain TSOs. I have only ever stumbled upon the name game once, thank god, and the procedure was quite useless. The gentlemen questioned the correct pronunciation of my name which is a very rare mishmash of languages.

But regardless, I have always wondered whether they make deaf people spell out their names in sign language.

Actually, deaf people adopt signs that represent their names and they may or may not specifically relate to the actual name. When one is learning sign language they are encouraged to adopt a sign name. It is really just too cumbersome to spell out 10-20 characters when one sign will do.

You may remember a news story from a month or two ago about a preschooler that was not allowed to sign his name and the school insisted he change the sign for his name. Why was it so controversial? It was a finger, pointed like a gun, and a motion of shooting the gun. The child's written name? Hunter.

So, if the TDC should ask a deaf person his name, and he/she understands the question, they will get a quick sign of the taken name sign. It's up to the TDC to figure it out. As far as the deaf person is concerned, that is their name.

Superguy Oct 18, 2012 2:11 pm


Originally Posted by Lkeade (Post 19521225)
Stating the name is a joke. We have a strange last name that no one can pronounce. My husband and I went through security one behind the other and each gave a different wrong pronunciation and no one cared.

It could be worse. You could have a name like Michael Bolton ... ;) :D

justhere Oct 18, 2012 3:17 pm

Reminds me of Brian Regan


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