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Note: because of state laws, the CDW that Chase provides on several of its higher-end cards is only secondary coverage, not primary, for residents of Minnesota, New York, North Dakota, Rhode Island, and Texas. (report)
For MN Specifically: Statute 65b.49.5a requires that auto policies issued in the state must cover damage to rental cars with a $0 deductible as part of property liability coverage, even if the policy holder does not have comprehensive or collision coverage on their personal vehicle. This requires insurers to cover "loss of use" and damage with a minimum limit of $35,000 (even if the policy general property damage limit is lower) in 1995 dollars with a paragraph stating this number should be adjusted with CPI, so that's nearly $70k of minimum coverage as of 2023. Even if you are renting in a different state, your MN auto policy will still apply. Chase Benefit Administrators have interpreted this statute to mean that your personal auto insurance supersedes the coverage provided by Indemnity Insurance Company of North America.
Important Note: Uhaul cargo vans are specifically excluded from coverage so do not rely on Chase card for CDW if renting UHaul or similar.
Links to coverage documentation: CSR CSP INK Preferred
Submit claim at eclaimsline.com
For MN Specifically: Statute 65b.49.5a requires that auto policies issued in the state must cover damage to rental cars with a $0 deductible as part of property liability coverage, even if the policy holder does not have comprehensive or collision coverage on their personal vehicle. This requires insurers to cover "loss of use" and damage with a minimum limit of $35,000 (even if the policy general property damage limit is lower) in 1995 dollars with a paragraph stating this number should be adjusted with CPI, so that's nearly $70k of minimum coverage as of 2023. Even if you are renting in a different state, your MN auto policy will still apply. Chase Benefit Administrators have interpreted this statute to mean that your personal auto insurance supersedes the coverage provided by Indemnity Insurance Company of North America.
Important Note: Uhaul cargo vans are specifically excluded from coverage so do not rely on Chase card for CDW if renting UHaul or similar.
Links to coverage documentation: CSR CSP INK Preferred
Submit claim at eclaimsline.com
Chase Auto Rental CDW; questions & experiences [Consolidated]
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To make a claim with any insurer for LDW coverage offered by a credit card, you will have to submit -- among other things -- a copy of the rental contract issued when you picked up the vehicle, and a copy of the receipt issued when you returned the vehicle. If your other credit card number appears on the contract, I would not expect any coverage from your CSP card.
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And a belated welcome to FlyerTalk, Gunsmoke529!
If you opt to pursue a claim through CSP, I suppose you could argue that you "initiated" the rental when you prepaid for it, rather than when you collected the vehicle. And if you have a good reason why you did not put the "hold" on the CSP card (maybe that card was nearing its credit limit?), then maybe CSP's insurer will be lenient. But frankly, I'm not sanguine about your chances of success in this scenario.
If you opt to pursue a claim through CSP, I suppose you could argue that you "initiated" the rental when you prepaid for it, rather than when you collected the vehicle. And if you have a good reason why you did not put the "hold" on the CSP card (maybe that card was nearing its credit limit?), then maybe CSP's insurer will be lenient. But frankly, I'm not sanguine about your chances of success in this scenario.
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I have the Chase Sapphire Reserve, and I'm planning to book a rental car in Costa Rica using National Car Rentals. Does anyone know if I should decline the CDW and Theft Protection & Third Party Liability coverage that National offers? It's unclear to me if that coverage is mandatory or if declining it would save me money and allow Chase to cover anything potential damages. Thank you!
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I have the Chase Sapphire Reserve, and I'm planning to book a rental car in Costa Rica using National Car Rentals. Does anyone know if I should decline the CDW and Theft Protection & Third Party Liability coverage that National offers? It's unclear to me if that coverage is mandatory or if declining it would save me money and allow Chase to cover anything potential damages. Thank you!
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3rd party liability is often automatically included and the rental companies often try to trick you into buying extra coverage that you really don't need. Read up on the legal background in Costa Rica before you sign up for such extras. It seems a minimum coverage by the public insurer is mandated, which should cover third party liability in accidents.
#517
While I don't doubt that happens, I believe it could also be ignorance on the part of the agent. I had a car rental agent in UK tell me that I needed to CDW to get the included liability insurance, in direct contradiction to the web site description and the rental agreement. It took about 45 minutes extra for phone calls to confirm that liability insurance was included in the rental even if the renter declined CDW, and the agent thanked me for the education. (I was real reluctant to rent the car with the agent promising me that I would not have liability insurance, even though I was sure it was included.)
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Anyone know of a way to determine the countries where the CDW benefit does not apply?
Benefits guide for United Explorer states unhelpfully that coverage applies in “most foreign countries.” When I called the Benefits Admin line, I had to wade through endless prompts—many of them telling me how few phone CSRs there are & how they’re focusing on the most urgent matters—and when I finally selected the option to speak to an agent about the CDW benefit, the call was disconnected.
I strongly suspect that Sicily is one of the excluded locales, but it would be useful to have access to a definitive list of inclusions/exclusions.
Benefits guide for United Explorer states unhelpfully that coverage applies in “most foreign countries.” When I called the Benefits Admin line, I had to wade through endless prompts—many of them telling me how few phone CSRs there are & how they’re focusing on the most urgent matters—and when I finally selected the option to speak to an agent about the CDW benefit, the call was disconnected.
I strongly suspect that Sicily is one of the excluded locales, but it would be useful to have access to a definitive list of inclusions/exclusions.
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Anyone know of a way to determine the countries where the CDW benefit does not apply?
Benefits guide for United Explorer states unhelpfully that coverage applies in “most foreign countries.” When I called the Benefits Admin line, I had to wade through endless prompts—many of them telling me how few phone CSRs there are & how they’re focusing on the most urgent matters—and when I finally selected the option to speak to an agent about the CDW benefit, the call was disconnected.
I strongly suspect that Sicily is one of the excluded locales, but it would be useful to have access to a definitive list of inclusions/exclusions.
Benefits guide for United Explorer states unhelpfully that coverage applies in “most foreign countries.” When I called the Benefits Admin line, I had to wade through endless prompts—many of them telling me how few phone CSRs there are & how they’re focusing on the most urgent matters—and when I finally selected the option to speak to an agent about the CDW benefit, the call was disconnected.
I strongly suspect that Sicily is one of the excluded locales, but it would be useful to have access to a definitive list of inclusions/exclusions.
Our feeling is, choosing a US company for the rental probably contributes to the success of the claim because the billing system is very professionally designed. No additional doc ever asked from us, the Budget bill we got from email was the primary doc we uploaded, together with the RA at rental and the RA after rental was closed. We did add a few extra photos on top of the 3 Budget attached to the bill.
Our Budget rental had mandatory CDW with an excess of $1000 euro excluded airport surcharges and VAT. The total bill was around 1,400 euro when everything included Chase paid over 1,200+ Euro, incl some airport surcharges that would have not been covered but due to Budget's very itemized bill separating the the whole thing into 2 parts, the adjuster just did not bother to scrutinize every line but approved the lump sum of the Estimated Repair part.
In the countries where there are government imposed Mandatory CDW coverage, such as South Africa, Chase covers the excess (deductible). They know the government mandated CDW cannot be declined.
AFAIK, Visa excludes very few countries, Israel being one of the few IIRC. Ireland, Australia and New Zealand might also be on the list. But the individual issuers can do their own thing.
A Google search shows Chase apparently has ELIMINATED exclusion according to this article.
https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/i...e-abroad-risks
- The Chase Sapphire Preferred® Card and the Chase Sapphire Reserve® both offer primary rental insurance and don't exclude any countries, but the Chase Sapphire Preferred® Card does exclude most luxury cars, including certain models of BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Cadillac and Lincoln. The Chase Sapphire Reserve® has some exclusions as well, like antique cars.
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3rd party liability is often automatically included and the rental companies often try to trick you into buying extra coverage that you really don't need. Read up on the legal background in Costa Rica before you sign up for such extras. It seems a minimum coverage by the public insurer is mandated, which should cover third party liability in accidents.
But CR and Israel are 2 places that I have experience with and 3rd party Lia is Mandatory even if a CC would cover it. If you dont pay for it then you wont be given a car,period. Now you dont have to take their premium 3rd party Lia, but the basic pkg you MUST take
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Used Chase Sapphire to rent a car in MX. There was a tiny scrape in the rear bumper and the right rear door. Since it was one of the many bumps, they charged me $400, not $2,000 which is probably the likely amount to get it fixed.
eClaims is requiring that I show repair bill, they only charged me a fee. She explained that it's a small damage so they have like five damages then fix it. I think that's fair, but it seems eClaims is insisting that it be repaired and there be a total bill for the repair.
eClaims is requiring that I show repair bill, they only charged me a fee. She explained that it's a small damage so they have like five damages then fix it. I think that's fair, but it seems eClaims is insisting that it be repaired and there be a total bill for the repair.
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Corporate code but personal/leisure
I am planning to rent a car from National at JFK using my company's corporate code for leisure/personal use and charge it to my Chase Sapphire Preferred.
Does anyone know if the CSP's CDW will still cover my rental even if I use a corp code for personal/leisure? Or do I need to purchase National's CDW?
Does anyone know if the CSP's CDW will still cover my rental even if I use a corp code for personal/leisure? Or do I need to purchase National's CDW?
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I am planning to rent a car from National at JFK using my company's corporate code for leisure/personal use and charge it to my Chase Sapphire Preferred.
Does anyone know if the CSP's CDW will still cover my rental even if I use a corp code for personal/leisure? Or do I need to purchase National's CDW?
Does anyone know if the CSP's CDW will still cover my rental even if I use a corp code for personal/leisure? Or do I need to purchase National's CDW?