May 15, 2014, 8:16 am
Last edit by: StartinSanDiego
This thread is now archived. Please follow the topic here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chase-ultimate-rewards/1986148-chase-closed-my-credit-card-account-s-tales-speculation-2019-thread.html
If you feel your account has been unfairly closed, consider filing a complaint with the Consumer Protection Financial Bureau:
CFPB's complaint form: http://www.consumerfinance.gov/complaint/
When someone reports an account closure here, a lot of the same questions get asked. It might be useful to answer some questions in advance. This could help figure out what happened or how to proceed:
2013.9
2013.12 2014.6
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chase...ta-points.html
On 1/4/15, LivelyFL noted that 34 posts have referenced account closures (updated 1/25/15):
1, 55, 80, 108, 117, 129, 146, 165, 182, 212, 221, 222, 232, 235, 262, 272, 281, 326, 364, 410, 411, 428, 475, 477, 482, 513, 552, 586, 620, 648, 656, 662, 714, 718, 784 and 815.
Mortgasm provided more detail as follows:
001 - moarmiles little explaination - 'inconsistent spending'
055 - brettskyg chase gift cards tiny ms
080 - Artemk checking chase gift card, tiny MS, international wires, wall-mart BP
108 - TTnc4me (105 actually) no info
117 - rodsren
129 - Kybosh chase gift card checking
146 - mintcilantro - checking 6k/month MS, BB payments from another ss#, some MO/AP, 7new cards in 90days, short cycling
165 - newcomr - checking
182 - thehawk75 - heavy MSw/other banks,
212 - LRD - 2x spend of 20k /month (on two cards), checking
221 - iceman 77_7, no info
222 - jk2 no info
232 - hitman1420 checking , heavy MS activity (no number)
235 - clearlyanewb checking, MS activity (10k AGC and more), light credit history, 10 recent inquiries
262 - brc01 - shortcycling, some MS (18k/month over a few cards), 1
272 - rambo - 70% MS on 5 cards, WM BP of 16k/month on 5 cards
281 - prestonv - heavy MS - 20k/month on multiple chase cards, heavy WMBP (ink stayed open)
326 - pacupgo - false alarm, no shutdown
364 - edh101985 - tiny MS (bonus only) , 4 chase cards in 6 months,
410 - msetr - lots of freedom/ink ms
411 - standaman360 - international wires (business), million dollar balances,
428 - queensgambit - gambling transactions, UR point transfer from SO, 5 chase apps 3 new chase cc in 45 days, Blogger points coach
475 - dogloverjb - checking, international wires,
477 - ftomasz - 14 inquiries in 8 months, 5 chase, minimal MS, rapid upswing in credit, paying from multiple accounts
482 - liw5215 - Heavy MS, re-entered after 13 months
513 - thegasguru - checking, $3k/month MO to checking, NO MS, AP,
552 - LAXtoWorld - 3 cards in 30 days
586 - adavydov7 checking, $1k APs,
648 - CMHFlyerOH - checking, MO, 3k gift cards
656 - I can see for miles - Maxed UR 5x rewards on Freedom and Ink cards. Chased closed all accounts. Was approved for Ritz Carlton card 14 months later and did nothing unusual with it, other than lower CL from 30K to 10K to free up CL for possible approvals. Two subsequent Chase apps (Chase Ink and Marriott Rewards), on separate dates 3+ months later, were declined for a "previous unsatisfactory relationship ..."
662 - frogdog51 - Chase VGCs (Reapproved in 12 months)
677 - Subdawg - closed for piggybacking
714 - Mamibear - 'abuse' redcard MS
718 - maxswanson - MS, 11 chase cards, traded UR, (reapproved after 12 months)
752 - peaser - "reputational risk" associated with the business (decision reversed later)
757 - uncommonsensical checking, 3 Cashier's Check deposits with quick w/d (the w/d were to pay CHASE credit cards! ridiculous 'loss prevention' dept. gods). All CC's closed 2 days later. Tried EX Office- they seem to have zero power once the Mullah in loss prevention has issued a fatwa (my guess: some 27 year old with a god complex).
762 - knopfler - checking closed (all credit cards closed in both mine and Mrs. Knopflers accounts about three weeks after checking closure)
771 - milemonkey - 'reputational Risk" connected to Attorney General lawsuit
784 - unstable one: 2 cash deposits over 10k to chase checking
815 - dukerau - one time UR point sale, 77% spending is 5x,
If you feel your account has been unfairly closed, consider filing a complaint with the Consumer Protection Financial Bureau:
CFPB's complaint form: http://www.consumerfinance.gov/complaint/
When someone reports an account closure here, a lot of the same questions get asked. It might be useful to answer some questions in advance. This could help figure out what happened or how to proceed:
- Did you transfer UR points to someone with a different address? Different last name?
- Did you sell UR points to someone?
- Approximately what percentage of your charges earned less than 5x points in the past 12 months?
- Did a Chase or non-Chase bank recently close one of your credit cards?
- Are you using up a large percentage of your credit line on all Chase and non-Chase credit cards?
- Is your total credit line with Chase much higher than with other banks?
- Did you apply for many credit cards or other forms of credit in the past 2 months? ("Many" may be hard to define.)
- If you have a Chase checking account how much did you typically deposit in money orders per month, if any?
- Did you recently start spending a lot more with Chase than in typical months?
- Is your monthly balance frequently close to your credit limit?
- Approximately what percentage of spending was on gift cards this year?
- How much of your bill do you typically pay using WM or KMart bill payment if any?
- Do you have a Chase mortgage or other account that might be profitable to Chase?
- Has your credit score or credit profile changed recently? As in: significantly more debt, more open credit lines, or a large drop in your credit score?
2013.9
2013.12 2014.6
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chase...ta-points.html
On 1/4/15, LivelyFL noted that 34 posts have referenced account closures (updated 1/25/15):
1, 55, 80, 108, 117, 129, 146, 165, 182, 212, 221, 222, 232, 235, 262, 272, 281, 326, 364, 410, 411, 428, 475, 477, 482, 513, 552, 586, 620, 648, 656, 662, 714, 718, 784 and 815.
Mortgasm provided more detail as follows:
001 - moarmiles little explaination - 'inconsistent spending'
055 - brettskyg chase gift cards tiny ms
080 - Artemk checking chase gift card, tiny MS, international wires, wall-mart BP
108 - TTnc4me (105 actually) no info
117 - rodsren
129 - Kybosh chase gift card checking
146 - mintcilantro - checking 6k/month MS, BB payments from another ss#, some MO/AP, 7new cards in 90days, short cycling
165 - newcomr - checking
182 - thehawk75 - heavy MSw/other banks,
212 - LRD - 2x spend of 20k /month (on two cards), checking
221 - iceman 77_7, no info
222 - jk2 no info
232 - hitman1420 checking , heavy MS activity (no number)
235 - clearlyanewb checking, MS activity (10k AGC and more), light credit history, 10 recent inquiries
262 - brc01 - shortcycling, some MS (18k/month over a few cards), 1
272 - rambo - 70% MS on 5 cards, WM BP of 16k/month on 5 cards
281 - prestonv - heavy MS - 20k/month on multiple chase cards, heavy WMBP (ink stayed open)
326 - pacupgo - false alarm, no shutdown
364 - edh101985 - tiny MS (bonus only) , 4 chase cards in 6 months,
410 - msetr - lots of freedom/ink ms
411 - standaman360 - international wires (business), million dollar balances,
428 - queensgambit - gambling transactions, UR point transfer from SO, 5 chase apps 3 new chase cc in 45 days, Blogger points coach
475 - dogloverjb - checking, international wires,
477 - ftomasz - 14 inquiries in 8 months, 5 chase, minimal MS, rapid upswing in credit, paying from multiple accounts
482 - liw5215 - Heavy MS, re-entered after 13 months
513 - thegasguru - checking, $3k/month MO to checking, NO MS, AP,
552 - LAXtoWorld - 3 cards in 30 days
586 - adavydov7 checking, $1k APs,
648 - CMHFlyerOH - checking, MO, 3k gift cards
656 - I can see for miles - Maxed UR 5x rewards on Freedom and Ink cards. Chased closed all accounts. Was approved for Ritz Carlton card 14 months later and did nothing unusual with it, other than lower CL from 30K to 10K to free up CL for possible approvals. Two subsequent Chase apps (Chase Ink and Marriott Rewards), on separate dates 3+ months later, were declined for a "previous unsatisfactory relationship ..."
662 - frogdog51 - Chase VGCs (Reapproved in 12 months)
677 - Subdawg - closed for piggybacking
714 - Mamibear - 'abuse' redcard MS
718 - maxswanson - MS, 11 chase cards, traded UR, (reapproved after 12 months)
752 - peaser - "reputational risk" associated with the business (decision reversed later)
757 - uncommonsensical checking, 3 Cashier's Check deposits with quick w/d (the w/d were to pay CHASE credit cards! ridiculous 'loss prevention' dept. gods). All CC's closed 2 days later. Tried EX Office- they seem to have zero power once the Mullah in loss prevention has issued a fatwa (my guess: some 27 year old with a god complex).
762 - knopfler - checking closed (all credit cards closed in both mine and Mrs. Knopflers accounts about three weeks after checking closure)
771 - milemonkey - 'reputational Risk" connected to Attorney General lawsuit
784 - unstable one: 2 cash deposits over 10k to chase checking
815 - dukerau - one time UR point sale, 77% spending is 5x,
Chase closed my credit card account(s) [Archived 2013-mid 2019]
Jun 3, 2014, 5:13 pm
#376
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,872
here is why I think chase punished you
your credit( credit report) is almost brand new,
You opened four chase card in just 6 months and the card activities are abnormal large MSs. you didn't have regular purchases.
stay away from greedy card card bloggers people!
your credit( credit report) is almost brand new,
You opened four chase card in just 6 months and the card activities are abnormal large MSs. you didn't have regular purchases.
stay away from greedy card card bloggers people!
Jun 3, 2014, 5:18 pm
#377
Formerly known as FTRox87
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: TX
Programs: AA/US 1M, AS, BA, CX, EK, EY, JL, KE, LH, NH, OS, QF, QR, TG, UA/CO | *$G
Posts: 1,428
he said he had no debts, never carried a balance so he wasnt necessarily irresponsible with his credit usage -- not sure about credit utl/ratio.
he didnt do much MS atleast not a continued pattern, apart from after initially getting approved for a new card. does Chase have a limit of how many personal card one can have at the same time like AMEX does?
I dont see what other risk factors could have played into an abrupt closure. sucks for OP tho.
Chase obv saw something worhty in his CR to approve him. not sure if it was instant approval or if he had to lobby recon and how hard. but thats like reverse double jeorpardy, cant punish the OP for having too many new accounts after approving him for those said accounts initially.and he said he basically did regular spend after getting the sign up bonus so not sure where you're getting "didn't have regular purchases..." from.
Jun 3, 2014, 5:23 pm
#378
Join Date: Mar 2012
Programs: Hilton, Hyatt, Priority, SPG - AA, Hawaiian Airline, United, US Airline
Posts: 608
Have you opened any credit cards since you opened Chase cards?
Your credit history is 1 year 7 months. How many credit cards do you have?
Last edited by happy9zz; Jun 3, 2014 at 5:37 pm
Jun 3, 2014, 5:45 pm
#379
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 199
I have 8 cards total. The last card I opened was by British Airways card, and this was a few weeks ago. What is the best website to use to see that for free besides annualcreditreport.com? I cant access it. I already looked at it sometime earlier this year and I cant see it again. One BOA card, 2 AMEX, and 1 citi card.
Jun 3, 2014, 6:32 pm
#380
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 511
Chances are your spending habits (MS to meet requirements then very little) and short income history made you an easy target for removal as unprofitable consumer.
Jun 3, 2014, 7:24 pm
#381
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: WAS
Programs: SPG Plat. Marriott Plat. Hilton Diamond. Hyatt Diamond. IHG Plat.
Posts: 2,580
but what specific info in those soft pulls on TU or EX would cause them to close all of OPs accounts?!
he said he had no debts, never carried a balance so he wasnt necessarily irresponsible with his credit usage -- not sure about credit utl/ratio.
he didnt do much MS atleast not a continued pattern, apart from after initially getting approved for a new card. does Chase have a limit of how many personal card one can have at the same time like AMEX does?
I dont see what other risk factors could have played into an abrupt closure. sucks for OP tho.
he said he had no debts, never carried a balance so he wasnt necessarily irresponsible with his credit usage -- not sure about credit utl/ratio.
he didnt do much MS atleast not a continued pattern, apart from after initially getting approved for a new card. does Chase have a limit of how many personal card one can have at the same time like AMEX does?
I dont see what other risk factors could have played into an abrupt closure. sucks for OP tho.
You don't have to have debts or carry a balance. People seem to forget that card companies can do what they want, when they want.
I wouldn't be surprised if OP doesn't have multiple on his CR.
minimal MS withstanding, even if OP got 4 new Chase cards in 6mo, how is that his fault? Chase obv saw something worhty in his CR to approve him. not sure if it was instant approval or if he had to lobby recon and how hard. but thats like reverse double jeorpardy, cant punish the OP for having too many new accounts after approving him for those said accounts initially.
and he said he basically did regular spend after getting the sign up bonus so not sure where you're getting "didn't have regular purchases..." from.
Chase obv saw something worhty in his CR to approve him. not sure if it was instant approval or if he had to lobby recon and how hard. but thats like reverse double jeorpardy, cant punish the OP for having too many new accounts after approving him for those said accounts initially.and he said he basically did regular spend after getting the sign up bonus so not sure where you're getting "didn't have regular purchases..." from.
Someone obviously flagged his account for adverse action because of something they saw.
I have 8 cards total. The last card I opened was by British Airways card, and this was a few weeks ago. What is the best website to use to see that for free besides annualcreditreport.com? I cant access it. I already looked at it sometime earlier this year and I cant see it again. One BOA card, 2 AMEX, and 1 citi card.
Someone got spooked over at Chase.
Jun 3, 2014, 7:29 pm
#382
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: WAS
Programs: SPG Plat. Marriott Plat. Hilton Diamond. Hyatt Diamond. IHG Plat.
Posts: 2,580
If you guys want to see an example,
This is coming from a user that has a Chase Private banker.
http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Cred...t/true#M819740
Well I just found out this morning that most of my Chase CCs were closed after a periodical review.
After some reading online, it seems that 4 Chase apps within a 12 month period seems to be the main cause. Several people on other forums had the same issue after putting in 4 chase apps within a year.
http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Cred...t/true#M819740
Jun 3, 2014, 9:36 pm
#383
Formerly known as FTRox87
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: TX
Programs: AA/US 1M, AS, BA, CX, EK, EY, JL, KE, LH, NH, OS, QF, QR, TG, UA/CO | *$G
Posts: 1,428
thats crazy and Chase seems to be kinda disorganized if that is the case. why approve 5 cards in the span of 8 months then if they are only comfortable with 4 apps in 12 months?
not to mention OP closed one of his card so he only has 4 active cards.
not to mention OP closed one of his card so he only has 4 active cards.
Jun 3, 2014, 9:47 pm
#384
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: 787
Programs: Too many to list
Posts: 1,306
did you happen to get one of those letters asking you to confirm your SS#? I threw mine away and 2 month later they closed my accounts. called, sent them signed letter in and week later they re-activated accounts
Jun 4, 2014, 8:59 am
#385
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,036
I've been approved for 5 in the last 12 months. Never had a problem. Obviously they aren't going to crack down on everyone though.
Jun 4, 2014, 10:30 am
#386
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: WAS
Programs: SPG Plat. Marriott Plat. Hilton Diamond. Hyatt Diamond. IHG Plat.
Posts: 2,580
Jun 4, 2014, 3:59 pm
#387
Formerly known as FTRox87
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: TX
Programs: AA/US 1M, AS, BA, CX, EK, EY, JL, KE, LH, NH, OS, QF, QR, TG, UA/CO | *$G
Posts: 1,428
yeah Chase is all over the place... this guy says he got 6 personal, 2 biz Chase cards. he's also AU on 2 of his wife's Chase cards.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22965762-post492.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22965762-post492.html
Jun 4, 2014, 5:15 pm
#388
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: WAS
Programs: SPG Plat. Marriott Plat. Hilton Diamond. Hyatt Diamond. IHG Plat.
Posts: 2,580
yeah Chase is all over the place... this guy says he got 6 personal, 2 biz Chase cards. he's also AU on 2 of his wife's Chase cards.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22965762-post492.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22965762-post492.html
In the terms of enharu, it was quite strange. They closed EVERYTHING out on him IIRC except for his Business cards.
It wasn't the first time I've read about Chase doing this.
Jun 6, 2014, 10:52 pm
#389
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: MSP
Programs: DL, BA, AA
Posts: 270
Hardly. They just opened the accounts in anticipation of further revenue. They don't approve a lot of accounts just to close them suddenly.
Jun 7, 2014, 12:27 pm
#390
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 199
Got the letter...
To many accounts
Not enough credit information on file
To many request for credit or/reviews of credit
How long till I can apply for one again?
To many accounts
Not enough credit information on file
To many request for credit or/reviews of credit
How long till I can apply for one again?