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Old Mar 13, 2017, 3:34 pm
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The official Chase description:
Merchants in this category include airlines, hotels, motels, timeshares, car rental agencies, cruise lines, travel agencies, discount travel sites, campgrounds and operators of passenger trains, buses, taxis, limousines, ferries, toll bridges and highways, and parking lots and garages.

Some merchants that provide transportation and travel-related services are not included in this category; for example, real estate agents, educational merchants arranging travel, in-flight goods and services, on-board cruise line goods and services, sightseeing activities, excursions, tourist attractions, RV and boat rentals, merchants within hotels and airports, public campgrounds and merchants that rent vehicles for the purpose of hauling. Purchases from gift card merchants or merchants that sell points or miles will not qualify in the travel category.
What counts as Travel?
  • Airline purchases, fees & gift cards
  • AA e-gift certificate
  • Delta eGift Cards
  • UA in-flight bev

    Hotels:
  • Marriott GC and hotel charges
  • Airbnb & their GC
  • hotels.com (NOT hotels.com e-gift cert!)
  • Hotel restaurants not charged to room (verified at Renaissance LV)
  • Priceline "opaque" hotel purchases
  • Kruger National Park lodging reservation (booked on sanparks.org official site)

    Transit, including parking, trains, ferries, toll roads, etc:
  • Taxi fares: Uber, Lyft, Gett, Way2Ride, London taxi, Fasten (Austin)
  • Transit fees: BART, MTA, FastTrak, Clipper Card (Bay Area), MetroCard, DC Metro (WMATA) SmarTrip farecard and commemorative cards, NJ Transit, Oyster card, Ventra (Chicago), Las Vegas Monorail, Brussels (STIB/MIVB), Incheon Airport Bus tickets, Orca King county(Seattle area), Suica/PASMO (Tokyo IC transit card - Apple pay top up)
  • Parking meters: Atlanta; Chicago; Portland, OR; San Francisco; Atlantic City; Seattle, (Los Angeles but NOT Santa Monica)
  • Public parking garages: San Francisco; Montgomery Co. MD
  • Toll passes: E-Z Pass (MA, MD, NH, NJ, NY, PA), Sunpass prepaid tolls, Washington State GoodToGo tolls, RiverLink tolls, TxTag, IPass (Illinois)
  • Train tickets: trainline (UK train tickets), Eurostar.com, Bahn.com (when using Paypal), Amtrak, italirail.com, Train and bus travel in Scotland at ticket counter.
  • Amtrak dining car purchases (YMMV, recent reports are below):
    • Pacific Surfliner, November 2016 (tmiw): yes, counted as travel with CSR.
      Pacific Surfliner, December 2018 (tmiw): did NOT count as travel (no travel credit), but did count as dining for 3x.
    • San Joaquin, December 2015 (serpens): counted as 3x on CSR, unknown if counted as travel.
    • unknown train/date (StanJazz): counted as dining on Freedom and CSP.
  • Ferries: Cape May, NJ to Lewes, DE and NYWaterway (Belford-Pier 11)
  • Shuttles: Jackson Hole WY Airport official shuttle to town
  • Unlimted JR Pass for Japan purchased from japan-rail-pass.com

    Misc:
  • MileagePlusX Uber GC [NB MPX eBay did NOT count, so it appears to be only actual travel related items on MPX]
  • Royal Caribbean drink package
  • Cruise bookings
  • Cruise Excursions Booked Prior to Cruise (and fully refundable)
  • MIR Travel Agency
  • undercovertourist.com
  • Rental cars (verified Avis on page 7 of this thread, Hertz)
  • Car Share (Car2Go) (ReachNow)
  • Lahaina Cruise Co. (Hawaii Ocean Project whale watch cruise)
  • Interval International Exchange Fee + Upgrade Fee
  • Aircraft title transfer registration fees with ICAO's International Registry of Mobile Assets (Cape Town Convention and Aircraft Protocol)
  • Viator/TripAdvisor
  • Recreation.gov fees for reserving federal park campsites do not count as "travel"
  • Point.me award search site starter pass

Also, see THIS thread for additional locations.

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Old Aug 7, 2023, 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by EasternTraveler
dining
There are several cards that provide 3x dining for a lower annual fee than the CSR. As I already mentioned, the Freedom Flex offers 3X dining for a $0 annual fee.

IMHO, the CSR has become a weak card given it's annual fee. I churn it for the SUB, but it's not a keeper.

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Old Aug 7, 2023, 10:50 am
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Originally Posted by EasternTraveler
[...] When purchasing a hotel stay, the Reserve nets 5.1¢ per dollar, whereas the Preferred nets 1.7¢ per dollar.
[...]
For what hotel does Reserve net three times what Preferred nets?
Originally Posted by EasternTraveler
[...]
There are several higher earning categories for Reserve versus Preferred. [...]
Originally Posted by EasternTraveler
dining
For dining, Reserve earns 3x and Preferred earns 3.1x if the card is held until the anniversary, otherwise 3x. No advantage to Reserve over Preferred for dining.
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Old Aug 7, 2023, 11:47 am
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Originally Posted by serpens
For what hotel does Reserve net three times what Preferred nets?



For dining, Reserve earns 3x and Preferred earns 3.1x if the card is held until the anniversary, otherwise 3x. No advantage to Reserve over Preferred for dining.
Preferred is 1x on hotels
Reserve is 3x on hotels

I would never consider either for dining as all of these have a better return:
AX Bus Gold
AX Personal Gold
MC Citibank Prestige

Originally Posted by serpens
For w,,,Preferred earns 3.1x if the card is held until the anniversary, otherwise 3x. ...
What makes it 3.1 versus 3 after one year?

Last edited by mia; Aug 7, 2023 at 11:51 am Reason: Combine consecutive replies
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Old Aug 7, 2023, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by EasternTraveler
Preferred is 1x on hotels
That's not accurate if you are referring to Sapphire Preferred. If you are writing about another card, please use the full name

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Old Aug 7, 2023, 1:04 pm
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Originally Posted by mia
That's not accurate if you are referring to Sapphire Preferred. If you are writing about another card, please use the full name

Chase Sapphire Preferred.
I am going to have to see if I can find a detailed list of what Chase defines as a travel category.
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Old Aug 7, 2023, 1:20 pm
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MIA would that be all of these categories? The website is not clear or at least I have not found it yet.
Portal Airline Brand Airline Hotel Brand Hotel Buses Camping Car Rental Cruise Ferry Parking Rideshare Subway Taxi Cabs Timeshare Tolls Tour Train Transit
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Old Aug 7, 2023, 1:22 pm
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Originally Posted by EasternTraveler
Preferred is 1x on hotels
[...]
I have always received 2x for hotels charged to Sapphire Preferred. (And I use the word "always" rarely and reluctantly.)
Originally Posted by EasternTraveler
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What makes it 3.1 versus 3 after one year?
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/35475184-post180.html
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Old Aug 7, 2023, 1:29 pm
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Originally Posted by serpens
I have always received 2x for hotels charged to Sapphire Preferred. (And I use the word "always" rarely and reluctantly.)

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/35475184-post180.html
That link makes me think, you get plus 0.1 on every category.
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Old Aug 7, 2023, 1:32 pm
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I have confirmed all of the categories except Campground, Buses, Car Rental, Cruises, Ferries, Parking, Rideshare, Subways, Taxicab, Timeshare, Tolls, and Tours for the 2x on travel. Does anyone know where a link is to confirm these categories or are they at the 1x bonus?
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Old Aug 7, 2023, 1:46 pm
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Originally Posted by EasternTraveler
MIA would that be all of these categories?
The Travel category is the same for both cards. The difference is the one extra point,Sapphire Reserve (3X) vs Sapphire Preferred (2X), not which transactions are covered.

Merchants in this category include airlines, hotels, motels, timeshares, car rental agencies, cruise lines, travel agencies, discount travel sites, campgrounds and operators of passenger trains, buses, taxis, limousines, ferries, toll bridges and highways, and parking lots and garages. Some merchants that provide transportation and travel-related services are not included in this category; for example, real estate agents, educational merchants arranging travel, in-flight goods and services, on-board cruise line goods and services, sightseeing activities, excursions, tourist attractions, RV and boat rentals, merchants within hotels and airports, public campgrounds and merchants that rent vehicles for the purpose of hauling. Purchases from gift card merchants or merchants that sell points or miles will not qualify in the travel category.
Source: https://www.chase.com/personal/credi...s-category-faq
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Old Aug 7, 2023, 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by mia
The Travel category is the same for both cards. The difference is the one extra point,Sapphire Reserve (3X) vs Sapphire Preferred (2X), not which transactions are covered.



Source: https://www.chase.com/personal/credi...s-category-faq
That specifically leaves out rideshares, subways, tours, and museums.
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Old Aug 7, 2023, 5:16 pm
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Originally Posted by EasternTraveler
That specifically leaves out rideshares, subways, tours, and museums.
Rideshare definitely works on CSR and I'm assuming on CSP too.
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Old Aug 7, 2023, 5:18 pm
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Originally Posted by friedablass
Rideshare definitely works on CSR and I'm assuming on CSP too.
thanks for the DP
It is not listed as being valid.
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Old Aug 7, 2023, 5:25 pm
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Originally Posted by EasternTraveler
That specifically leaves out rideshares, subways, tours, and museums.
Tours and museums are not travel, and are explicitly excluded.

Rideshares may be coded the same as taxis.

Ample discussion here: What counts as travel? [Sapphire, INK, Consolidated]
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Old Aug 7, 2023, 5:29 pm
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Originally Posted by EasternTraveler
thanks for the DP
It is not listed as being valid.
I have been getting 3x on uber since I have the CSR. Then they started giving free Lyft Pink and 10x points on Lyft ride through March 2025 so I try to use that when it makes sense. You can get 5x on CSP with Lyft and other Chase cards also have increased earnings on Lyft.

https://www.lyft.com/chase
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