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Old Mar 13, 2017, 3:34 pm
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The official Chase description:
Merchants in this category include airlines, hotels, motels, timeshares, car rental agencies, cruise lines, travel agencies, discount travel sites, campgrounds and operators of passenger trains, buses, taxis, limousines, ferries, toll bridges and highways, and parking lots and garages.

Some merchants that provide transportation and travel-related services are not included in this category; for example, real estate agents, educational merchants arranging travel, in-flight goods and services, on-board cruise line goods and services, sightseeing activities, excursions, tourist attractions, RV and boat rentals, merchants within hotels and airports, public campgrounds and merchants that rent vehicles for the purpose of hauling. Purchases from gift card merchants or merchants that sell points or miles will not qualify in the travel category.
What counts as Travel?
  • Airline purchases, fees & gift cards
  • AA e-gift certificate
  • Delta eGift Cards
  • UA in-flight bev

    Hotels:
  • Marriott GC and hotel charges
  • Airbnb & their GC
  • hotels.com (NOT hotels.com e-gift cert!)
  • Hotel restaurants not charged to room (verified at Renaissance LV)
  • Priceline "opaque" hotel purchases
  • Kruger National Park lodging reservation (booked on sanparks.org official site)

    Transit, including parking, trains, ferries, toll roads, etc:
  • Taxi fares: Uber, Lyft, Gett, Way2Ride, London taxi, Fasten (Austin)
  • Transit fees: BART, MTA, FastTrak, Clipper Card (Bay Area), MetroCard, DC Metro (WMATA) SmarTrip farecard and commemorative cards, NJ Transit, Oyster card, Ventra (Chicago), Las Vegas Monorail, Brussels (STIB/MIVB), Incheon Airport Bus tickets, Orca King county(Seattle area), Suica/PASMO (Tokyo IC transit card - Apple pay top up)
  • Parking meters: Atlanta; Chicago; Portland, OR; San Francisco; Atlantic City; Seattle, (Los Angeles but NOT Santa Monica)
  • Public parking garages: San Francisco; Montgomery Co. MD
  • Toll passes: E-Z Pass (MA, MD, NH, NJ, NY, PA), Sunpass prepaid tolls, Washington State GoodToGo tolls, RiverLink tolls, TxTag, IPass (Illinois)
  • Train tickets: trainline (UK train tickets), Eurostar.com, Bahn.com (when using Paypal), Amtrak, italirail.com, Train and bus travel in Scotland at ticket counter.
  • Amtrak dining car purchases (YMMV, recent reports are below):
    • Pacific Surfliner, November 2016 (tmiw): yes, counted as travel with CSR.
      Pacific Surfliner, December 2018 (tmiw): did NOT count as travel (no travel credit), but did count as dining for 3x.
    • San Joaquin, December 2015 (serpens): counted as 3x on CSR, unknown if counted as travel.
    • unknown train/date (StanJazz): counted as dining on Freedom and CSP.
  • Ferries: Cape May, NJ to Lewes, DE and NYWaterway (Belford-Pier 11)
  • Shuttles: Jackson Hole WY Airport official shuttle to town
  • Unlimted JR Pass for Japan purchased from japan-rail-pass.com

    Misc:
  • MileagePlusX Uber GC [NB MPX eBay did NOT count, so it appears to be only actual travel related items on MPX]
  • Royal Caribbean drink package
  • Cruise bookings
  • Cruise Excursions Booked Prior to Cruise (and fully refundable)
  • MIR Travel Agency
  • undercovertourist.com
  • Rental cars (verified Avis on page 7 of this thread, Hertz)
  • Car Share (Car2Go) (ReachNow)
  • Lahaina Cruise Co. (Hawaii Ocean Project whale watch cruise)
  • Interval International Exchange Fee + Upgrade Fee
  • Aircraft title transfer registration fees with ICAO's International Registry of Mobile Assets (Cape Town Convention and Aircraft Protocol)
  • Viator/TripAdvisor
  • Recreation.gov fees for reserving federal park campsites do not count as "travel"
  • Point.me award search site starter pass

Also, see THIS thread for additional locations.

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Old Feb 12, 2018, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by alohasunshine
Data point: Hotels.com (when paying with PayPal) does not code as travel. Too bad because TopCashBack has a good promo when paying with PayPal.
Update: for a separate booking, it did code as travel when paying with PayPal on Hotels.com. It's strange that it's not consistent. Maybe it depends on the hotel or maybe this was fixed so it codes correctly as travel.
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Old Feb 12, 2018, 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by jamesteroh
I can't find this in the thread. Has anyone had any luck with toll road transmitters (either E-Z pass or IPass) reloads working?
Yes on reloading ipass in early Dec. Had a few dollars to use up and it used up the rest of my $300 credit.
We also used it to rent the original IPass a year ago.
It is in the Wiki also.
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Old Feb 25, 2018, 5:05 pm
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Does anyone know if various tours in Alaska will code as travel on the CSR? Namely the wildlife viewing tours through Denali National Park and the Kenai Fjords boat tours in Seward? I'm trying to decide between using the CSR for 3x points, or the Citi Premier for 2x points on entertainment. Since it will be a sizable expense I just want to avoid it coding for only 1x points. Any input would be appreciated!
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Old Feb 25, 2018, 5:19 pm
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This is Chase's definition of Travel:

Merchants in the travel category include airlines, hotels, motels, timeshares, car rental agencies, cruise lines, travel agencies, discount travel sites, campgrounds and operators of passenger trains, buses, taxis, limousines, ferries, toll bridges and highways, and parking lots and garages. Please note that some merchants that provide transportation and travel-related services are not included in this category; for example, real estate agents, educational merchants arranging travel, in-flight goods and services, on-board cruise line goods and services, sightseeing activities, excursions, tourist attractions, merchants within hotels and airports, and merchants that rent vehicles for the purpose of hauling. In addition, the purchasing of gift cards, points or miles does not qualify in this category unless the merchant has set up such purchases to be classified in the travel category.
Note that sightseeing activities are specifically excluded, BUT if the credit card transaction were billed by a travel agency or cruise line it would not matter if the charge is for a shore excursion.
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Old Feb 25, 2018, 5:36 pm
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Originally Posted by mia
This is Chase's definition of Travel:



Note that sightseeing activities are specifically excluded, BUT if the credit card transaction were billed by a travel agency or cruise line it would not matter if the charge is for a shore excursion.
Right, thanks, that's what I gather as well. Would you happen to know if a sightseeing tour/wildlife excursion would code as entertainment on the Citi Premier? (I see that you are a moderator for Citi too).
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Old Feb 26, 2018, 2:53 am
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As it happens post 93 earlier in this thread discusses Citi Premier.
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Old Mar 11, 2018, 10:13 am
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way to get 3X for non reservation cruise items

In the past - the charges I incurred on RCCL while on-board did not come through as 3x.

But, I did find out if you made and paid for items prior to sailing, you did the 3x. Drink packages, arcade card, internet, excursions, etc. Those are all coming through at 3x.

Now, I am thinking of the remaining OB charges that I will incur. RCCL goods offers a gift card that can be used as a credit to on-board account. I'm thinking if I buy one for my known costs - then that will come through with 3x also.

Has anyone ever done that?
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Old Mar 11, 2018, 4:31 pm
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Originally Posted by mdurette;29511005[b
]In the past - the charges I incurred on RCCL while on-board did not come through as 3x.

But, I did find out if you made and paid for items prior to sailing, you did the 3x. Drink packages, arcade card, internet, excursions, etc. Those are all coming through at 3x.

Now, I am thinking of the remaining OB charges that I will incur. RCCL goods offers a gift card that can be used as a credit to on-board account. I'm thinking if I buy one for my known costs - then that will come through with 3x also.

Has anyone ever done that?
How did the RCCL onboard charges showing up on your statement?

I had almost $700 onboard charges on a holiday cruise onboard Princess ship. The final bill earned 3x on my Ink Preferred which I assumed using the SAME mechanism to determine Travel Spending.
This was how it showed on the Ink Preferred statement
ROYAL PRINCESS 8007746237 CA
676.42


+ 2 Points per $1 on trvl, ship, adv, telecom 1,353
+ 1 Point per $1 earned on all purchases 677

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Old Mar 12, 2018, 7:05 pm
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Buying from the official Paris visit bureau website

Is there’s a way to know that if I want to buy the Paris museum pass and some metro tickets thru the official Paris bureau website, would my transaction count as travel? Because If not I will prefer to pay it with my CFU.

Thanks in advance, MS
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Old Mar 12, 2018, 10:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Chuncho
Is there’s a way to know that if I want to buy the Paris museum pass and some metro tickets thru the official Paris bureau website, would my transaction count as travel? Because If not I will prefer to pay it with my CFU.
I don’t know whether it would count as travel. However, it may be considered a foreign transaction and thus incur a fee if you use your CFU.
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Old Mar 13, 2018, 8:45 am
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Originally Posted by Chuncho
Is there’s a way to know that if I want to buy the Paris museum pass and some metro tickets thru the official Paris bureau website, would my transaction count as travel? Because If not I will prefer to pay it with my CFU.

Thanks in advance, MS
If it's a government agency it will probably be coded as Government imho. I bought metro passes at the counter in Scotland and they coded as travel, which they were. YMMV but buying them from the Government controlled automatic dispensers coded as Govt. in Scotland. So does anybody have history with Paris?
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Old Mar 14, 2018, 11:38 pm
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Parking fees have been credited to me. One thing that was not credited was travel insurance I bought for an upcoming cruise.
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Old Mar 15, 2018, 3:14 pm
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Old Mar 16, 2018, 12:30 am
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Data points from recent TPE/HKG trip

earned 3x:
- Taiwan SIM card bought online through https://www.klook.com/ (probably anything from Klook would qualify?)
- Taiwan High Speed Rail (THSR) tickets bought in-station
- Hong Kong Airport Express tickets purchased online: MTR > Airport Express Services
- tickets for the Victoria Peak Tram

earned 1x only
- wifi pass bought online directly from gogoair.com (I think this was already well-known but repeating FWIW)
- Fa-So-La gift shop airside at NRT
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Old Mar 19, 2018, 2:33 pm
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Originally Posted by mdurette
In the past - the charges I incurred on RCCL while on-board did not come through as 3x.

But, I did find out if you made and paid for items prior to sailing, you did the 3x. Drink packages, arcade card, internet, excursions, etc. Those are all coming through at 3x.

Now, I am thinking of the remaining OB charges that I will incur. RCCL goods offers a gift card that can be used as a credit to on-board account. I'm thinking if I buy one for my known costs - then that will come through with 3x also.

Has anyone ever done that?
First, I want to say that it's very surprising that your post-cruise bill did not code as travel. I've always had it code as travel.

As for your idea of buying gift cards, I would suggest buying the smallest they offer ($50) to make sure it codes as travel. What I would suggest instead is pre- purchasing on board credit. That should definitely code as travel.
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