Upcoming Changes to MPC
#138



Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 7,226
#139


Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 289
Inspired by the other thread:
What if SP and membership year resets together once a member reaches a new tier? So you get one whole year to move further up instead of half a year (or less) with points reset? It seems to be a balance between current system and the proposed no SP reset?
What if SP and membership year resets together once a member reaches a new tier? So you get one whole year to move further up instead of half a year (or less) with points reset? It seems to be a balance between current system and the proposed no SP reset?
#140



Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 7,226
Inspired by the other thread:
What if SP and membership year resets together once a member reaches a new tier? So you get one whole year to move further up instead of half a year (or less) with points reset? It seems to be a balance between current system and the proposed no SP reset?
What if SP and membership year resets together once a member reaches a new tier? So you get one whole year to move further up instead of half a year (or less) with points reset? It seems to be a balance between current system and the proposed no SP reset?
#141


Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 289
Umm...currently your status points and membership year do get reset together. You always get 12 months, and unless the new membership year starts on the 1st of the month, you get the remainder of the final month, too, for membership year always ends at the end of a month.
#142
Join Date: Dec 2024
Posts: 178
what i just saw on the last weekend ,
all the gold & DM got upgraded.
in the past few month , i didnt see any DM upgrade & gold not upgraded , i always see DM + gold got upgraded together.
is it possible that the CX system already merge this 2 tier as almost the same level already ?
all the gold & DM got upgraded.
in the past few month , i didnt see any DM upgrade & gold not upgraded , i always see DM + gold got upgraded together.
is it possible that the CX system already merge this 2 tier as almost the same level already ?
#143




Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: PEK, AUS, WAS, HKG
Programs: CX Gold
Posts: 1,288
what i just saw on the last weekend ,
all the gold & DM got upgraded.
in the past few month , i didnt see any DM upgrade & gold not upgraded , i always see DM + gold got upgraded together.
is it possible that the CX system already merge this 2 tier as almost the same level already ?
all the gold & DM got upgraded.
in the past few month , i didnt see any DM upgrade & gold not upgraded , i always see DM + gold got upgraded together.
is it possible that the CX system already merge this 2 tier as almost the same level already ?
#144


Join Date: Aug 2015
Programs: Hilton Honors Gold, Marriott Gold, BA Bronze, Hertz President's Club
Posts: 576
what i just saw on the last weekend ,
all the gold & DM got upgraded.
in the past few month , i didnt see any DM upgrade & gold not upgraded , i always see DM + gold got upgraded together.
is it possible that the CX system already merge this 2 tier as almost the same level already ?
all the gold & DM got upgraded.
in the past few month , i didnt see any DM upgrade & gold not upgraded , i always see DM + gold got upgraded together.
is it possible that the CX system already merge this 2 tier as almost the same level already ?
It doesn't happen on many flights, but there are certain flights that have a higher chance of allowing you to get one than others due to time of day/year.
DM and GO naturally have a higher chance of getting upgraded.
#145




Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: PEK, AUS, WAS, HKG
Programs: CX Gold
Posts: 1,288
What's being referred here is technically known as an 'involuntary regrade' or better known as a free upgrade.
It doesn't happen on many flights, but there are certain flights that have a higher chance of allowing you to get one than others due to time of day/year.
DM and GO naturally have a higher chance of getting upgraded.
It doesn't happen on many flights, but there are certain flights that have a higher chance of allowing you to get one than others due to time of day/year.
DM and GO naturally have a higher chance of getting upgraded.
#146

Join Date: Oct 2023
Posts: 635
What's being referred here is technically known as an 'involuntary regrade' or better known as a free upgrade.
It doesn't happen on many flights, but there are certain flights that have a higher chance of allowing you to get one than others due to time of day/year.
DM and GO naturally have a higher chance of getting upgraded.
It doesn't happen on many flights, but there are certain flights that have a higher chance of allowing you to get one than others due to time of day/year.
DM and GO naturally have a higher chance of getting upgraded.
#147



Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 7,226
Edit: I might have an idea what you are referring to. Your status points and membership year both get reset when you move from one tier to another. Neither resets when you meet the renewal target in the duration of your membership year. Hope that clarifies.
#148




Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: MPC-DM, Enrich-Plat
Posts: 1,366
"Some" airlines seem to forget the whole purpose of their loyalty program: To reduce price competition and let people book flights which are more expensive on their metal than on metal of the competition. That people are prepared to pay more for a seat/experience because of the goodies they additionally get. Reduce those goodies and people will consider the competition and the airline will lose out on bookings. With the consequence that people who book later can get better pricing (because the cheaper booking classes are still (need to be) available and you lose out on the extra money you could make on the more expensive booking classes, etc. This is a self-reinforcing effect
Make the goodies reduction to big and people give you the middle finger for the loyalty goodies at all and become free agents, which in turn does move the flight/airline selection to a price competition, which you desperately try to avoid with your loyalty program.
Airlines also seem to forget that once they "grow", the number of flights grow, the number of destinations grow, and the more attractive that the airline becomes for frequent flyers. So, I'd dare to say, if an airline doubles the amount of flights, the flying by frequent flyers will increase more than that, maybe even significantly more. So, when your flights double, take care to be able to honor/handle 3 times the amount of goodie requests, IE, increase your lounge capacity more than proportionate.......
Make the goodies reduction to big and people give you the middle finger for the loyalty goodies at all and become free agents, which in turn does move the flight/airline selection to a price competition, which you desperately try to avoid with your loyalty program.
Airlines also seem to forget that once they "grow", the number of flights grow, the number of destinations grow, and the more attractive that the airline becomes for frequent flyers. So, I'd dare to say, if an airline doubles the amount of flights, the flying by frequent flyers will increase more than that, maybe even significantly more. So, when your flights double, take care to be able to honor/handle 3 times the amount of goodie requests, IE, increase your lounge capacity more than proportionate.......
Frequent flyers have spent years staying loyal to airlines. Now airlines are giving them 'the middle finger'.
#149




Join Date: Feb 2025
Programs: CX, World of Hyatt
Posts: 172
How does this change affect Cathay SL? Does this mean they'll lose benefits such as lounge access in outports but in return its easier for leisure travellers to get to Gold?
#150
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: DL, OZ, AC, AS, AA, BA, Hilton, Hyatt, Marriott, IHG
Posts: 21,005
It was realistic pre-2016. There still are EY DMs but they fly long-haul Y as well. It is honestly very impressive because even for PEY you'd have to do 8-10 long-hauls. That is why I think it is not wise to drive this group of customers away.
Perhaps the changes are to combat the increased number of DMs. There are more than 40K of us now.
Perhaps the changes are to combat the increased number of DMs. There are more than 40K of us now.
What is an EY DM?

