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Originally Posted by allianceflyer9506
(Post 36284495)
spot on and I asked MNL bound passengers that did CX899 EWR-HKG to CX907 which needs to be resumed SQ version SQ21 to SQ918 they said it's better than PR127 JFK-MNL.
For CX899 if restored it's plane needs to do the main golden route HKG-TPE alongside Hong Kong to the Philippines. Therefore, CX certainly doesn't "need" to make the connections more convenient for MNL-JFK customers. |
So much for trying to bulk up crew numbers by training more cadets https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...rious-blunders
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Wow just shocking.
the fact that isntead of reopening overseas bases and hiring experienced pilots. they would risk such danger show's how uncommited they truly our to restoring capacity. |
Which major airlines can now afford these large overseas pilot bases NZflyer777
These bases are no longer a viable proposition and probably never were I suspect that your list will be a rather short one ! |
Obviously an exception to 'no new routes until Q1 2025'
https://news.cathaypacific.com/catha...ong-and-riyadh Cathay Pacific is pleased to announce the launch of direct passenger flights to Riyadh, the capital and financial centre of Saudi Arabia, from 28 October 2024, further enhancing connectivity, trade and cultural exchange between its home hub, Hong Kong, and countries participating in the Belt and Road Initiative. Cathay Pacific will operate three return flights per week between Hong Kong and Riyadh using its modern Airbus A350-900 aircraft, featuring Business, Premium Economy and Economy cabins. |
yep, although CX bought UO. The luggage issue is a big problem. Even you are a diamond, you cannot enjoy one extra luggage. This is super ridiculous...
I really hope CX can resume to 10 times flight to Frankfurt weekely. Currently, CX makes the code share with LH. However, the qaulity of CX and LH with A340-600 are huge different. Frankfurt used to be a very important location for CX, even with own lounge. However, after Covid, I see no further proactive actions from Cathay to bring Frankfurt back to the peak moment.....this is so sad... |
Originally Posted by NZflyer777
(Post 36286447)
Wow just shocking.
the fact that isntead of reopening overseas bases and hiring experienced pilots. they would risk such danger show's how uncommited they truly our to restoring capacity. |
ROI?
This is why businesses die. measure everything on ROI and cut cut cut your way to oblivion. As for ROI anyways. Pretty high actually since that is how it was pre pandemic and it would return market share and power. and if you exclude Swire's incompetence with fuel hedging, CX was one of the most profitable airlines on earth. What is the ROI of having updated cabins? What is the ROI of having pilots so your expensive capital is not being idle? It's pretty simple .
Originally Posted by coldspoon
(Post 36286480)
yep, although CX bought UO. The luggage issue is a big problem. Even you are a diamond, you cannot enjoy one extra luggage. This is super ridiculous...
Until UO is fully integraintegrated flights provide the same level of service as CX for passengers booked on a CX ticket. it's not a replacement of KA.
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 36286489)
How would reopening overseas pilot bases pencil from an ROI standpoint?
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Originally Posted by coldspoon
(Post 36286487)
I really hope CX can resume to 10 times flight to Frankfurt weekely. Currently, CX makes the code share with LH. However, the qaulity of CX and LH with A340-600 are huge different.
Frankfurt used to be a very important location for CX, even with own lounge. However, after Covid, I see no further proactive actions from Cathay to bring Frankfurt back to the peak moment.....this is so sad... |
Originally Posted by NZflyer777
(Post 36286495)
As for ROI anyways.
Pretty high actually since that is how it was pre pandemic and it would return market share and power. .
Originally Posted by NZflyer777
(Post 36286498)
UO is a whole different market.
Until UO is fully integraintegrated flights provide the same level of service as CX for passengers booked on a CX ticket. it's not a replacement of KA. What is the financial benefit of providing full service than can be operated with higher margins with lower cost service? |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 36286511)
Does United Express provide the same level of service as United? Does Air Canada Jazz provide the same level of service as Air Canada? Does QF Airlink provide the same level of service as Qantas?
What is the financial benefit of providing full service than can be operated with higher margins with lower cost service? Anyways yay CX is back to growth capacity will be back to pre covid levels by 2025. I guess UO will be launching long haul flights to match CX capacity? I can't wait to see CXs March 2025 passenger numbers. It will be hilarious.
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 36286509)
Okay. If it's "pretty high", please walk us through some numbers on how opening an overseas pilot base or two would generate a better financial return than focusing on building locally now (i.e post pandemic).
Oh and the cost of risking your planes crash....
Originally Posted by KhemaneyBoy
(Post 36286506)
Won't happen until next summer at the very earliest. Further, I'd think CX would restart the daytime service to CDG before they restart the daytime service to FRA.
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Originally Posted by NZflyer777
(Post 36286527)
comparing uo to cx is like adding Jetstar numbers to QF.
Anyways yay CX is back to growth capacity will be back to pre covid levels by 2025. I guess UO will be launching long haul flights to match CX capacity?
Originally Posted by NZflyer777
(Post 36286530)
cost of a pilot vs cost of billions of assets sitting idle.
Oh and the cost of risking your planes crash.... |
Originally Posted by NZflyer777
(Post 36286532)
I see we have already moved the bench mark of pre covid capacity to now summer 2025.
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Originally Posted by KhemaneyBoy
(Post 36286563)
Those additional services were removed as a result of the reduced demand because of the protests and before the COVID outbreak. Don't really know if that counts as pre-covid capacity.
(Available seat km. Ie capacity) ASK DEC 2018: 13978 million km ASK DEC 2019: 13795 million km ASK APR 2014: 8633 million km ASK North America Dec 2018: 3566 million km ASK North America Dec 2019: 3513 million km ASK North Amercia Apr 2024: 2508 million km ASK Europe Dec 2018: 2730 million km ASK Europe Dec 2019: 2651 million km ASK Europe Apr 2024: 1522 million km ASK south west pacific Dec 2018: 1891 million km ASK South West Pacific Dec 2019: 1926 million km ASK South West Pacific Apr 2024: 1162 million km. so anyone want to do the maths to what is the capacity now for CX as compare to 2018 or 2019. |
It looks like about 79.5% -but I stand to be corrected
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