May 24, 2018, 4:03 am
Last edit by: percysmith
New links:
New redemption engine: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/facade.html
(alternatively https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_HK/book-a-trip/redeem-flights/facade.html for MPO members)
New redemption charts (CX and KA only): https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/flight-award-chart.html
New partner redemption mileage requirement: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/afr.html
Asia Miles changes microsite:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/
New Terms and Conditions:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/en/updatedterms.html
New redemption engine: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/facade.html
(alternatively https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_HK/book-a-trip/redeem-flights/facade.html for MPO members)
New redemption charts (CX and KA only): https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/flight-award-chart.html
New partner redemption mileage requirement: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/afr.html
Asia Miles changes microsite:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/
New Terms and Conditions:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/en/updatedterms.html
Asia Miles Changes effective 22 June 2018
May 25, 2018, 6:25 am
#121
Join Date: Jan 2006
Programs: AAdvantage Asia Miles Air China
Posts: 870
I dont like saying it, but I have been banging on that this would happen ever since the original 'enhancement'. The spending side is the other side of the coin to the original change and every airline has done this one-two.
Sounds like more men overboard.
Off the catch my (AA) flight now
Sounds like more men overboard.
Off the catch my (AA) flight now
May 25, 2018, 7:27 am
#122
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Reading the new charts it looks like something like SYD-HKG-LHR or SYD-HKG-JFK in J would be 85K Asia Miles, rather than 110K Asia Miles as of now? Or am I mistaken?
May 25, 2018, 7:31 am
#123
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May 25, 2018, 8:17 am
#124
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May 25, 2018, 9:04 am
#125
Join Date: Sep 2008
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CX does not have a published routing for us to eur via HKG, i believe.
however, cpt - hkg - usa should be allowed.
i dont think this is intended. they kind of miss it.
May 25, 2018, 10:43 am
#126
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: HKG
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I think in general, it seems like they allow everyone to earn a little bit more, but it costs more to redeem.. so for most people, the effect might not be too bad if you earn your miles by flying.. it seems to me the biggest losers here are the ones who get their miles from credit cards and other merchant offers.. effectively they are getting less for their spend now...
May 25, 2018, 10:45 am
#127
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well POOF went flights i was looking at in May to HKG and out of CX. glad i at least have some alternate dates in march but not idea but it was remarkable to see so many days with 5J basically vaporize in the last 24 hours.
IT SEEMS AWFULLY suspicious that the day after they announce this, all flights on about 15 to 20 days I was looking at that had 5J seem to only have 2J now. I wonder if CX backed out inventory and then will put it back after they greese you with the change.
IT SEEMS AWFULLY suspicious that the day after they announce this, all flights on about 15 to 20 days I was looking at that had 5J seem to only have 2J now. I wonder if CX backed out inventory and then will put it back after they greese you with the change.
Last edited by runningonfumes; May 25, 2018 at 12:59 pm
May 25, 2018, 8:45 pm
#129
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Posts: 2,284
I requested a companion redemption last week but it is still on waitlist, considering it will still be for my flights in November, if it clears after June 22, do I now need to pay 67,000 instead of 50,000?
May 25, 2018, 9:00 pm
#130
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As I understand it anything issued on or after 22 June will use the new rules regardless of when it went on waitlist. This is one of the FAQs on the change site.
May 25, 2018, 9:11 pm
#131
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ORD [formerly] + HKG
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What flight? If you ask they can probably open up seat for DM, no need to wait until Jun 22.
May 25, 2018, 9:15 pm
#132
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Technically, under the new chart, FRA-HKG-CDG, JFK-HKG-LHR, ...(anything longhaul-longhaul connecting in HKG, across different countries) can be ticketed as one one-way redemption for 85,000 in J. (Although I'm 99% sure it will be manually nono'd)
Is it the best deal? Well, 'wink' can fare as well as this value, so nothing tooooooo astonishing to me.
May 26, 2018, 3:38 pm
#133
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Anywhere
Posts: 6,576
Didn't peruse again, but the new T&Cs specify that they can shut you down when 'they think' whatever your itinerary proposed is backtracking.
Technically, under the new chart, FRA-HKG-CDG, JFK-HKG-LHR, ...(anything longhaul-longhaul connecting in HKG, across different countries) can be ticketed as one one-way redemption for 85,000 in J. (Although I'm 99% sure it will be manually nono'd)
Is it the best deal? Well, 'wink' can fare as well as this value, so nothing tooooooo astonishing to me.
Technically, under the new chart, FRA-HKG-CDG, JFK-HKG-LHR, ...(anything longhaul-longhaul connecting in HKG, across different countries) can be ticketed as one one-way redemption for 85,000 in J. (Although I'm 99% sure it will be manually nono'd)
Is it the best deal? Well, 'wink' can fare as well as this value, so nothing tooooooo astonishing to me.
But I remember just short of a decade ago it was possible to book SYD-LHR-USA as one way for 25,000 Avios-predecessor in Y, double that for J and triple for F! “wink”
May 26, 2018, 6:36 pm
#135
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