May 24, 2018, 4:03 am
Last edit by: percysmith
New links:
New redemption engine: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/facade.html
(alternatively https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_HK/book-a-trip/redeem-flights/facade.html for MPO members)
New redemption charts (CX and KA only): https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/flight-award-chart.html
New partner redemption mileage requirement: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/afr.html
Asia Miles changes microsite:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/
New Terms and Conditions:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/en/updatedterms.html
New redemption engine: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/facade.html
(alternatively https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_HK/book-a-trip/redeem-flights/facade.html for MPO members)
New redemption charts (CX and KA only): https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/flight-award-chart.html
New partner redemption mileage requirement: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/afr.html
Asia Miles changes microsite:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/
New Terms and Conditions:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/en/updatedterms.html
Asia Miles Changes effective 22 June 2018
May 23, 2018, 11:09 pm
#31
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Vancouver, Manila, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Hong Kong
Programs: CX-DM, Marriott Gold, Fairmont Premier
Posts: 335
I regularly redeem upgrades from Premium Economy W/R to Business and these changes are horrible. Almost double the number of required points whereas 60k used to be enough for my fiancee and me to get upgraded.
May 23, 2018, 11:12 pm
#32
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 5
Long haul flights to JFK is slightly cheaper, that's a good news to me. Japanese and Korean cities are a lot cheaper! Personally I like Indian cities. It will be much cheaper and if you buy a ticket online, usually more than 4000 dollars. Indian cities is much more appealing now
May 23, 2018, 11:14 pm
#33
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX, UA, Shangri-La, Hyatt, Starwood
Posts: 7,708
Increased inventory of regular awards for MPCs would be a nice improvement especially for the premium class awards hope that happens...but not holding my breath.
May 23, 2018, 11:15 pm
#34
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: CX - DM; Hilton - Diamond, Marriott - Titanium
Posts: 542
Not entirely happy about this new award chart as HKG - LAX is my primary longhaul route. So if I fly Business I get less miles and if I fly First I only get a little more. And of course more miles to redeem business and First on this route. Double whammy!
May 23, 2018, 11:21 pm
#36
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ORD [formerly] + HKG
Programs: CX Diamond, AA exExPlat, BAEC exGold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Starriott Titanium, GE
Posts: 2,966
'Tailored awards' is going to be dynamic pricing based on revenue fares. I wouldn't be surprised if the 'extra seat availability' goes 99% there and 1% left for the other two types.
May 23, 2018, 11:24 pm
#37
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX, UA, Shangri-La, Hyatt, Starwood
Posts: 7,708
May 23, 2018, 11:29 pm
#38
Join Date: Jan 2018
Programs: CX Macro polo Silver, AA platinum
Posts: 85
I am wondering why AM do not provide bonus miles based on the Macro polo status.
Don't they think that encouraging and attracting their FF flying on their airlines is very important and a must?
Don't they think that encouraging and attracting their FF flying on their airlines is very important and a must?
May 23, 2018, 11:31 pm
#39
Suspended
Join Date: May 2006
Location: HKG
Programs: A3, TK *G; JL JGC; SPG,Hilton Gold
Posts: 9,952
If they intend to release Choice to members, it's not much improvement. The point of loyalty is we get a good deal once in a while, in exchange for us over a long term period paying more to CX. But those choice awards are bordering on "stupid price".
Increased inventory of regular awards for MPCs would be a nice improvement especially for the premium class awards hope that happens...but not holding my breath.
Increased inventory of regular awards for MPCs would be a nice improvement especially for the premium class awards hope that happens...but not holding my breath.
if one earns by flying, i can definately see why you are not happy with such disloyalty.
May 23, 2018, 11:32 pm
#40
Join Date: Jan 2017
Programs: Cathay Pacific, Air Astana
Posts: 102
Taking HKG-BOM-HKG as an example (which I'm doing a fair amount at the moment) in economy:
The cheap seats in SNQ AM earn on roundtrip goes from 1326 to 2000
MLV however collapses from 5306 to 3600
And YBHK collapses from 5306 to 4000
Of course, I'm usually in K or M or thereabouts
So looks like another instance of CX trying to offer something for the cheap seats versus LCC's, whilst taking captive frequent economy passengers (paying more than SNQ etc) for granted - once again
They had to U-turn on Points for this group (my group). But now they want to take something away again
The cheap seats in SNQ AM earn on roundtrip goes from 1326 to 2000
MLV however collapses from 5306 to 3600
And YBHK collapses from 5306 to 4000
Of course, I'm usually in K or M or thereabouts
So looks like another instance of CX trying to offer something for the cheap seats versus LCC's, whilst taking captive frequent economy passengers (paying more than SNQ etc) for granted - once again
They had to U-turn on Points for this group (my group). But now they want to take something away again
May 23, 2018, 11:36 pm
#42
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: Lowly CX & IHG
Posts: 382
Still digesting the new T&C the round-trip stopover rule has a very explicit and extensive definition of turnover point:
So at least my previously redemption with "HKG as stopover" won't work exactly the same.
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Update 1: Mixed cabin redemption changed from highest-only to prorate-by-mileage (Flight Awards – Standard, Choice & Tailored Awards no.5)
Update 2: "Back-tracking itinerary redemption is not allowed." (Flight Awards – Standard, Choice & Tailored Awards no.10)
Originally Posted by Flight Awards Redemption – General Conditions no.6
The turnaround point of a round-trip Flight Award (except the oneworld Multi-Carrier Awards) is determined by the following rules:
- In a 2-sector itinerary, the first sector destination port must be the stopover point and the turnaround point or the point of destination open jaw; or
- In a 3-sector itinerary, if there is a destination open jaw, the destination open jaw must be the turnaround point; or
- In a 3-sector itinerary, if there is a transfer but no destination open jaw involved, the only stopover point must be the turnaround point; or
- In a 3-sector itinerary, if there are 2 stopovers (no transfer and no destination open jaw involved), the furthest stopover point from the point of itinerary origin must be the turnaround point; or
- In a 4-sector itinerary, the second sector destination port must be the stopover point and turnaround point or the point of destination open jaw.
- A transfer point must not become a turnaround point of a round-trip itinerary.
- A turnaround point must also be the stopover point.
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Update 1: Mixed cabin redemption changed from highest-only to prorate-by-mileage (Flight Awards – Standard, Choice & Tailored Awards no.5)
Update 2: "Back-tracking itinerary redemption is not allowed." (Flight Awards – Standard, Choice & Tailored Awards no.10)
Last edited by watery; May 23, 2018 at 11:49 pm
May 23, 2018, 11:45 pm
#44
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: HKG
Programs: CX, BA
Posts: 69
It is not that bad TBH. OW chart only experiences a slight increase. HKG-Korean/Japanese Y return only 20000miles, even for HKG-CTS. An answer to BA or is it a compensation for changing to 3-4-3 on 777s?
For those choice/tailored/standard award thing, I guess a rational way of thinking is that CX wont make award seats available to partners if they only release the seats to the more expensive charts.
For those choice/tailored/standard award thing, I guess a rational way of thinking is that CX wont make award seats available to partners if they only release the seats to the more expensive charts.
May 23, 2018, 11:50 pm
#45
Suspended
Join Date: May 2006
Location: HKG
Programs: A3, TK *G; JL JGC; SPG,Hilton Gold
Posts: 9,952