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#91
Join Date: Aug 2010
Programs: AA,CX, BA, Priority Club, SPG, Hilton
Posts: 1,397
The beauty of the BAEC system is the 2000 mile threshold. If your travel pattern includes plenty of these flights or if you don't mind one-stop flights that have 2000+ mile legs then it is actually easy to rack up points quickly. It doesn't need to be in F either. HKG-CGK is 280 points return in business. TPE-KUL-BOM/DEL gets an impressive 560 points return in business. If you're doing monthly work trips to the above then that's already getting you over 10,000 points a year.
While I understand how it works, and doable... just not likely to happen at the same time with multi-million on CX plus he flew on SQ flights, which OP claimed. Hence, I was asking if he was flying everyday.
#92
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Vancouver
Programs: CX DM, SQ TPP, QF GO LIFE, OZ*G LIFE, Marriott TIT LIFE, WOH GLOBALIST LIFE, HH DM, BA GO LIFE
Posts: 598
I believe there are several ppl on BA forum possible 10K a year. However, let's face it, 35000 TP in 2.5 years actually needs 16667 TP (a lot more than 10K) a year. Even with 560 TP per round trip, that's 2.5 round trip a month.
While I understand how it works, and doable... just not likely to happen at the same time with multi-million on CX plus he flew on SQ flights, which OP claimed. Hence, I was asking if he was flying everyday.
While I understand how it works, and doable... just not likely to happen at the same time with multi-million on CX plus he flew on SQ flights, which OP claimed. Hence, I was asking if he was flying everyday.
This way, if you travel once a week for work and fly airlines such as Malaysia Airlines to India and Japan, that's a whopping 360 tier points per flight and multiple that by 3 times per month along with some European trips via the Middle East which earns 560 tier points along with some personal travel here and there to maximise the mileage run, I've made it is doable and hence the aim is to achieve BAEC Lifetime Gold within 2.5 years from start to end.
#93
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 5,797
I believe there are several ppl on BA forum possible 10K a year. However, let's face it, 35000 TP in 2.5 years actually needs 16667 TP (a lot more than 10K) a year. Even with 560 TP per round trip, that's 2.5 round trip a month.
While I understand how it works, and doable... just not likely to happen at the same time with multi-million on CX plus he flew on SQ flights, which OP claimed. Hence, I was asking if he was flying everyday.
While I understand how it works, and doable... just not likely to happen at the same time with multi-million on CX plus he flew on SQ flights, which OP claimed. Hence, I was asking if he was flying everyday.
#94
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10
When they say "certain routes", I hope they might offer more benefits for routes like HKG-KIX/HND/NRT which are in intense competition. Passengers on those routes are price sensitive and switched to LCCs or HX, meanwhile JL and NH are providing better products(IMO) with slightly higher price, and Japanese passengers are loyal to JL/NH. CX is in an awkward position and I think they might do something with this.
#95
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX, UA, Shangri-La, Hyatt, Starwood
Posts: 7,708
When they say "certain routes", I hope they might offer more benefits for routes like HKG-KIX/HND/NRT which are in intense competition. Passengers on those routes are price sensitive and switched to LCCs or HX, meanwhile JL and NH are providing better products(IMO) with slightly higher price, and Japanese passengers are loyal to JL/NH. CX is in an awkward position and I think they might do something with this.
CX and JAL offer nearly identical pricing on the morning flights I prefer, although if one is more expensive it's CX, not JAL. And the morning CX flight to HND, earliest of the day seems to be preferred by business folks - underlined by the fact that I've taken CX548 this year 3x, and have run into associates, competitors or other industry folks on each flight. In fact, I've known multiple people on 2/3 flights!
Ticket prices are outrageous. Economy for overnights can run $750 USD, and $3k USD or more for business class. But admittedly, I haven't been driven away because I like to get to HND as soon as possible to fit in at least one meeting in the afternoon and ideally a dinner, meaning I only have to spend one night, max two in Tokyo before returning. Then, take the JAL or CX morning flight from HND back to HKG and can do meetings and work that afternoon back in HKG as well.
I'd be in favor of more points...the amount of money is outrageous, IMO. But I definitely see these as my most expensive regional flights, not least! However, I often go for one night, always on weekdays, and want the morning departures. Aka tick the box for "get ripped off" in each category. No chance on earth I'm taking a redeye on such a short flight, but nor am I going midday ex-HKG because I lose the entire day in transit. I occasionally fly evening ex-Tokyo after meetings. I would only do midday or a less-convenient timing ex-HKG on a weekend or holiday so I didn't waste a business day.
I suspect this is the type of market where there are two very different customer types. Leisure travelers, given how much HK and regional folks love to visit Japan (as well as increasing #s of Japanese tourists outbound), who are price sensitive and willing to go on the LLCs. And then there are business travelers, and the crew going to Tokyo is probably the least price-sensitive in the region, IMO. Higher business-type fares than to anywhere business heavy, including SIN, PVG and PEK. The latter two are downright "cheap" in comparison...you can fly round-trip in KA F to/from PEK for about $2k USD. A businessman on the business timings can't do that in J class to HND.
#96
#97
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX, UA, Shangri-La, Hyatt, Starwood
Posts: 7,708
#98
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: CX Green, QF Platinum, BAEC Silver, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 10,780
One-way. And you're right - CX awards 25 club points for cheap J one-way - so my comparison is even worse. 80 QF status credits vs 25 CX club points. And renewal targets are the same.
#99
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX, UA, Shangri-La, Hyatt, Starwood
Posts: 7,708
#101
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: HKG
Programs: CX DM, SPG Pt, Le Club Accor GO, Shangri-La GC Jade
Posts: 1,327
A new month coming... Anyone have any idea on the original subject? Or CX really want to hold till Christmas?
#102
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX Diamond / SQ Gold / Bonvoy Platinum / Hyatt Globalist / Hilton Gold
Posts: 1,098
I don't think we have come up with enough good ideas yet ... my guess is CX is using this page to see what ideas we come up with.
... but I don't think they'll give us anything we really want.
... but I don't think they'll give us anything we really want.
#103
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NYC/SIN
Programs: CX DM, SQ KF
Posts: 2,171
Here's one: admit failure, go back to the old MPC with minor tweaks (lifetime, incentives beyond 120K).
surely numbers' gotta top 'keeping face' ..
surely numbers' gotta top 'keeping face' ..
#104
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: GVA
Programs: CX-DM, BA-GGL, Marriott-TI, HHonors-DM
Posts: 271
I heard that the announcement is coming out this Friday...
#105
Ambassador: Japan Airlines
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: LAX
Programs: JAL Mileage Bank, JMB Diamond, oneworld Emerald, Bonvoy Platinum
Posts: 16,400
There are around 500 BA members earning 5000 TPs per year. The number earning 16,000 will likely be close to single digits. It's possible to do it just extremely rare, and if true @380Flyer will be one of the most frequent flyers the airline has.