SIN-HKG equipment lottery [Regional Equipment Swaps]
Mar 18, 2014, 8:58 pm
#226
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Another factor is loads. If there is a flight with low loads, and another flight which is overbooked, if the low loads flight aircraft has more seats than the overbooked flight, they will try to swap them if operationally possible.
Mar 18, 2014, 10:46 pm
#227
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Regional aircraft rotation is a combination of aircraft timings, passenger and cargo loads. You may notice a 744 flying half empty on say a Manila flight and wonder why. Well that 747 might only have a few hours spare during the day to fly a regional trip before a longhaul is scheduled for it, and rather than have it sit on the ground, it does a quick trip and frees up a regionally configured plane to do a longer trip. Certain aircraft carry more cargo and might be more suited to some routes even though the loads may seem light in the passenger cabin. Depending on the cargo, a passenger plane can fly with zero passengers and still make money. On some routes the passenger loads are not that important at all!
Mar 22, 2014, 7:12 am
#228
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How do you folks handle advance seat assignments knowing the aircraft lottery could happen? I currently have solo window seats on the 3 class 1-2-1 HKG-SIN-HKG config but would prefer the middle bank if the plane goes 2 class 2-2-2. But don't want to change unless I need to...
Mar 23, 2014, 3:42 am
#229
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I flew CX364 the other day to PVG which for weeks out until around 2 hours before departure was scheduled for a 77Z. Then I stopped checking. When I boarded the aircraft imagine my shock at seeing a 777 instead (meaning regional 777-200). Sometimes the sub happens as late as the gate!
Mar 23, 2014, 7:02 am
#230
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I flew CX364 the other day to PVG which for weeks out until around 2 hours before departure was scheduled for a 77Z. Then I stopped checking. When I boarded the aircraft imagine my shock at seeing a 777 instead (meaning regional 777-200). Sometimes the sub happens as late as the gate!
That's being said, hoping that my May 1 HKG SIN changes back to a 33G
Mar 23, 2014, 7:47 am
#231
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How bad is BKK? I am booked to fly on a 77W early in may both ways in First. If they downgrade, what kind of comp can I expect? Loads are already decent in both flights on F - showing F3A3 on 1 and F2A2 on the other - does having a better load in F help in terms of change of aircraft or do they only look at EY/J loads on such flights and not bother with the 5-6 pax who could be booked in F?
Apr 13, 2014, 3:06 pm
#232
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I am booked 1st week May using redemptions (AA as part of a transpac and back on BA) SIN-HKG-SIN... In Z First class. Any idea what will happen if they do an equipment swap in terms of compensation by CX?
Apr 13, 2014, 9:45 pm
#233
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Unrelated, PEY->Y doesnt seem to have been following that...though evidence here that CX is starting to accomodate those passengers in J now.
Apr 14, 2014, 1:11 am
#234
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Some people mention a future upgrade coupon on top of the USD 40 compensation, but others don't. If you do get a future upgrade coupon, I think it's fair compensation.
Apr 14, 2014, 1:27 pm
#235
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I would agree - that would be exactly what I'd expect / be looking for. Hopefully it won't come to that and I can enjoy my CX flights in First!
May 4, 2014, 6:29 am
#237
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No. The 772 refit won't be due till later this year after they are done with the 333s. I just came back to SIN on HND and you are right, the armchairs are dreaded.
May 4, 2014, 7:04 am
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May 4, 2014, 8:51 am
#240
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Tell me about it. My 5/2 CX659 got swapped out from a 77Z to the 772. Really wished they could put the 772s in for the refit soon. They have been making their appearance in SIN too often.