SIN-HKG equipment lottery [Regional Equipment Swaps]
Dec 9, 2013, 10:24 pm
#166
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Yeah now I see it.. Did a dummy booking,Y+ fare between SIN and HKG roundtrip is SGD 4,085.20 inclusive everything on W class.
While the most expensive biz class is only SGD 3,903.20 on C class and the cheapest is SGD 2,110.40 on I class.
Not really sure what CX is doing. Perhaps they are not really selling Y+ on SIN-HKG sector only and more for "upgrade" for people with Y+ connection I suppose.
May be I can ask at the airport if they can get me Y+ seat nicely
Yeah kind of dilematic now. Should I book on the earlier flight with no Y+ so still got chance to upgraded to C, but may be got lousy Y if not upgraded or stick with long haul aircraft with newer Y.
Perhaps I will stick with newer aircraft.
While the most expensive biz class is only SGD 3,903.20 on C class and the cheapest is SGD 2,110.40 on I class.
Not really sure what CX is doing. Perhaps they are not really selling Y+ on SIN-HKG sector only and more for "upgrade" for people with Y+ connection I suppose.
May be I can ask at the airport if they can get me Y+ seat nicely
Yeah kind of dilematic now. Should I book on the earlier flight with no Y+ so still got chance to upgraded to C, but may be got lousy Y if not upgraded or stick with long haul aircraft with newer Y.
Perhaps I will stick with newer aircraft.
Dec 9, 2013, 11:32 pm
#167
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Did you ask or auto?
Dec 10, 2013, 2:20 am
#168
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In the second run (which was part of a longer PVG>>>HKG>>>SIN trip), I had used AM to get an EMEX seat (row48 on 74K). Due to late arrivals from PVG, I almost did not make that flight, leaving just enough time to deplane at Gate 35, rush through transit security and up to departures at Gate31. Think I was last onboard. At the gate, the reader beeped and turned red. A ground crew then took away my original BP and went, "Sir, we give you upgwade to Peemium Ecolomy."^^^
I think as long as you are MPO and if there are no DM, DM+s, GO or in my case SLs ahead of you, they give it to you. Not sure if my BN1 helped in the "ugwade" though, but I thank my fairy godmother in CX for it, even though it was sort of a pseudo upgrade. Reinforced me to take my business from Golden Goose to CX.
Dec 10, 2013, 2:33 am
#169
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I'm about to pull the trigger to redeem SIN - HKG in F using Avios. In the event my CX flight gets substituted to an aircraft without F and I'm downgraded to J, what is the typical procedure? Do I have to call BAEC to ask for the Avios difference to be credited back, or will this be done automatically for me? Or if I want to change to another CX flight with F, will BAEC charge me a fee to do that?
Just trying to ascertain if is will be too much hassle? Has anyone been through the same situation, if so please share your experience. Thanks.
Just trying to ascertain if is will be too much hassle? Has anyone been through the same situation, if so please share your experience. Thanks.
Dec 10, 2013, 2:36 am
#170
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I'm about to pull the trigger to redeem SIN - HKG in F using Avios. In the event my CX flight gets substituted to an aircraft without F and I'm downgraded to J, what is the typical procedure? Do I have to call BAEC to ask for the Avios difference to be credited back, or will this be done automatically for me? Or if I want to change to another CX flight with F, will BAEC charge me a fee to do that?
Just trying to ascertain if is will be too much hassle? Has anyone been through the same situation, if so please share your experience. Thanks.
Just trying to ascertain if is will be too much hassle? Has anyone been through the same situation, if so please share your experience. Thanks.
Dec 10, 2013, 2:30 pm
#171
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Sin has been getting the old regional a333's lately mainly on the red-eye flights and some throughout the day with the ocassional 747 or 77W popping up. Used to be better!
Dec 10, 2013, 5:03 pm
#172
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Yeah now I see it.. Did a dummy booking,Y+ fare between SIN and HKG roundtrip is SGD 4,085.20 inclusive everything on W class.
While the most expensive biz class is only SGD 3,903.20 on C class and the cheapest is SGD 2,110.40 on I class.
Not really sure what CX is doing. Perhaps they are not really selling Y+ on SIN-HKG sector only and more for "upgrade" for people with Y+ connection I suppose.
May be I can ask at the airport if they can get me Y+ seat nicely
Yeah kind of dilematic now. Should I book on the earlier flight with no Y+ so still got chance to upgraded to C, but may be got lousy Y if not upgraded or stick with long haul aircraft with newer Y.
Perhaps I will stick with newer aircraft.
While the most expensive biz class is only SGD 3,903.20 on C class and the cheapest is SGD 2,110.40 on I class.
Not really sure what CX is doing. Perhaps they are not really selling Y+ on SIN-HKG sector only and more for "upgrade" for people with Y+ connection I suppose.
May be I can ask at the airport if they can get me Y+ seat nicely
Yeah kind of dilematic now. Should I book on the earlier flight with no Y+ so still got chance to upgraded to C, but may be got lousy Y if not upgraded or stick with long haul aircraft with newer Y.
Perhaps I will stick with newer aircraft.
W is high as TAs can use AD75 on W class (though I have no idea as for ID tickets.)
Dec 10, 2013, 8:45 pm
#173
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Online, the most expensive biz class that I can find has C sub class. While I is the cheapest.
The point that I tried to make is even the most expensive biz class is still cheaper than the Premium Economy class available online. So not sure who is the right minded person will book PE for higher fare while he/she can fly biz cheaper....
Dec 10, 2013, 8:47 pm
#174
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For the first instance (BN86), the PEY seat map showed up at OLCI.
In the second run (which was part of a longer PVG>>>HKG>>>SIN trip), I had used AM to get an EMEX seat (row48 on 74K). Due to late arrivals from PVG, I almost did not make that flight, leaving just enough time to deplane at Gate 35, rush through transit security and up to departures at Gate31. Think I was last onboard. At the gate, the reader beeped and turned red. A ground crew then took away my original BP and went, "Sir, we give you upgwade to Peemium Ecolomy."^^^
I think as long as you are MPO and if there are no DM, DM+s, GO or in my case SLs ahead of you, they give it to you. Not sure if my BN1 helped in the "ugwade" though, but I thank my fairy godmother in CX for it, even though it was sort of a pseudo upgrade. Reinforced me to take my business from Golden Goose to CX.
In the second run (which was part of a longer PVG>>>HKG>>>SIN trip), I had used AM to get an EMEX seat (row48 on 74K). Due to late arrivals from PVG, I almost did not make that flight, leaving just enough time to deplane at Gate 35, rush through transit security and up to departures at Gate31. Think I was last onboard. At the gate, the reader beeped and turned red. A ground crew then took away my original BP and went, "Sir, we give you upgwade to Peemium Ecolomy."^^^
I think as long as you are MPO and if there are no DM, DM+s, GO or in my case SLs ahead of you, they give it to you. Not sure if my BN1 helped in the "ugwade" though, but I thank my fairy godmother in CX for it, even though it was sort of a pseudo upgrade. Reinforced me to take my business from Golden Goose to CX.
Ok... then for more serious question... If I use miles to upgrade then, can I upgrade from Y to C or Y to Y+?
When I tried to check for upgrade for my H class booking, the screen shows nothing.....
Dec 10, 2013, 9:48 pm
#175
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Dec 11, 2013, 12:24 am
#176
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Dec 11, 2013, 1:48 am
#177
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Sold = you can get a ticket with the classes W, R or E.
Singapore is included in the destinations where they are selling Y+. On regional flights, the in-flight service is exactly the same as economy - no difference in catering.
https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...al_routes.html
Singapore is included in the destinations where they are selling Y+. On regional flights, the in-flight service is exactly the same as economy - no difference in catering.
https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...al_routes.html
Dec 11, 2013, 4:18 am
#178
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Sold = you can get a ticket with the classes W, R or E.
Singapore is included in the destinations where they are selling Y+. On regional flights, the in-flight service is exactly the same as economy - no difference in catering.
https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...al_routes.html
Singapore is included in the destinations where they are selling Y+. On regional flights, the in-flight service is exactly the same as economy - no difference in catering.
https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...al_routes.html
even for long haul, HKG-YYZ, I saw Y+ got served with the some cart which continue to economy.
I got a set from Y+ as I sat on the second row on Y cabin. The different for breakfast, I got croissant for the bread and my neighbour got a round bread.... and i have a nicer tray and utensials. thats's all
very different from Y+ in TK
Dec 11, 2013, 4:31 am
#179
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ok got you.... so no more upgrade to C then.
even for long haul, HKG-YYZ, I saw Y+ got served with the some cart which continue to economy.
I got a set from Y+ as I sat on the second row on Y cabin. The different for breakfast, I got croissant for the bread and my neighbour got a round bread.... and i have a nicer tray and utensials. thats's all
very different from Y+ in TK
TK position Y+ as J- (Business minus)
CX really position Y+ as Y+ (Economy Plus)
Originally Posted by lingua101
Sold = you can get a ticket with the classes W, R or E.
Singapore is included in the destinations where they are selling Y+. On regional flights, the in-flight service is exactly the same as economy - no difference in catering.
https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...al_routes.html
Singapore is included in the destinations where they are selling Y+. On regional flights, the in-flight service is exactly the same as economy - no difference in catering.
https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...al_routes.html
even for long haul, HKG-YYZ, I saw Y+ got served with the some cart which continue to economy.
I got a set from Y+ as I sat on the second row on Y cabin. The different for breakfast, I got croissant for the bread and my neighbour got a round bread.... and i have a nicer tray and utensials. thats's all
very different from Y+ in TK
CX really position Y+ as Y+ (Economy Plus)
Dec 11, 2013, 6:41 am
#180
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