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lingua101 Feb 16, 2012 7:52 pm


Originally Posted by JALPak (Post 18030568)
Now they have added another sentence to the warning

"If you have already issued your eTicket, please ignore the above message."

so their system can't tell :rolleyes:

i just called the Singapore office to issue my ticket. I was told CX (HKG) has problem with Credit Card processing. That's why they cannot take website booking.

She took my booking and told me will take sometimes for the eTicket to be sent out via email. They are busy because they have problem with eTicketing. Many ticket that should not been reissued has been reissued.

So I guess that's probably why they have that message?

JALPak Feb 16, 2012 7:53 pm


Originally Posted by lingua101 (Post 18030933)
i just called the Singapore office to issue my ticket. I was told CX (HKG) has problem with Credit Card processing. That's why they cannot take website booking.

She took my booking and told me will take sometimes for the eTicket to be sent out via email. They are busy because they have problem with eTicketing. Many ticket that should not been reissued has been reissued.

So I guess that's probably why they have that message?

but this isn't a CX issued ticket. The problem might be they are looking for a CX e-ticket while mine was issued by BA which has a different prefix

HoKo Feb 17, 2012 3:33 pm


Originally Posted by pdxasflyer (Post 18027119)
I find it laughable reading CX World's account that the PSS switchover was a smashing success. Nothing could be further from the truth. With Asia Miles on constant busy signal, reps scrambling to assist passengers with new ticketing errors (some tickets haven't been migrated to the new system) and folks worldwide with partner award bookings that cannot be changed, this cannot remotely be called a success - or 'passed' - until everything is done and ops are back to normal.

A good dose of patience is what most customers/passengers are taking right now, but for CX to start patting themselves on the back is insulting and ridiculous.

Get back to work, CX, and there's no celebrating until this system is fully operational! You haven't 'PASSED' yet!

+1 What a clusterf***

I was unaware of this system migration until 15 minutes ago when I attempted to book a 16 segment Oneworld award with a bunch of segments on CX. AA said they are unable to book anything at all on CX. I asked for a hold on my IAD-LAX-HNL-HND-GMP segments until CX gets their act together but plat agent tried to tell me 24hr hold is max. She clearly didn't give a sh*t and had no interest in working with me so I got a supervisor on the phone who was very helpful. She ticketed me for the existing segments (booked as separate one way awards or something like that) and put a waiver in the notes for miles redeposit fee. Once CX is back up I can apparently shift my existing segments/seats to a OW award and add on the CX segments that I need.

She was confident this would work and seemed pretty competent but I'm pretty worried...especially since my trip commences on the 25th. Let's hope CX gets their act together over the weekend.

JALPak Feb 18, 2012 1:56 am

They called it a success but told us not to call by putting this on their front page :rolleyes:


Passengers advised to manage their bookings online rather than through call centres

Cathay Pacific and Dragonair have recently upgraded to a new passenger reservations system. While most of our systems are now online and functioning as planned, there have been some teething issues – as expected with a system change of this magnitude. As a result there has been an increase in the volume of calls and call handling times at our worldwide call centres as well as The Marco Polo Club/Asia Miles Service Centre.

We therefore encourage passengers holding Cathay Pacific/Dragonair reservations to make necessary changes through Manage My Booking on this website using their e-Ticket number. Passengers who are not flying now are recommended to call the call centres at a later date when call volumes will have subsided.

We are working hard to assist our customers as quickly as we can. Thank you for your patience.

Cathay Boy Feb 18, 2012 7:11 am


Originally Posted by JALPak (Post 18038229)
They called it a success but told us not to call by putting this on their front page :rolleyes:

Another CX PR disaster.... even if they want to feel proud of themselves, at least do it when everything is settled and then call it a success. Don't call it a success when you keep hearing horror stories left and right from CX pax.

fakecd Feb 18, 2012 7:38 am

no need to worry. Justice will be done. As long as Apple Daily is around... it wouldn't be too long before front-page on Apple Daily with faces of old lady denied boarding due to system loosing her booking etc etc.

God i love the HK media (note how I didn't say Journalism....)

travelbug38 Feb 18, 2012 10:26 am


Originally Posted by pdxasflyer (Post 18027119)
I find it laughable reading CX World's account that the PSS switchover was a smashing success. Nothing could be further from the truth. With Asia Miles on constant busy signal, reps scrambling to assist passengers with new ticketing errors (some tickets haven't been migrated to the new system) and folks worldwide with partner award bookings that cannot be changed, this cannot remotely be called a success - or 'passed' - until everything is done and ops are back to normal.

A good dose of patience is what most customers/passengers are taking right now, but for CX to start patting themselves on the back is insulting and ridiculous.

Get back to work, CX, and there's no celebrating until this system is fully operational! You haven't 'PASSED' yet!

Even the website for the online booking is a joke and I am not laughing, the price jumps by hundreds of dollars (as much as $US500) from one day to next for same schedule flights and class. CX should not be patting themselves until the customers are satisfied with the results. Migratiing to a new system and software is a major operation, similar to your PC at business or home when you upgrade. There will always be some fine tuning done constantly and to prematurely say a "success" is blowing your own trumpet.

travelbug38 Feb 18, 2012 10:33 am


Originally Posted by andy1022 (Post 18018247)
i encountered a similar situation few months ago, it seems to be an occasional even due to CX system, although the system migration could bring up more and more similar events.

When a company wants to save some cash and outsource the services, results are accompanied by confusion and chaos, not to mention frustrations to the customers.

Cathay Boy Feb 21, 2012 4:00 pm


Originally Posted by travelbug38 (Post 18039752)
When a company wants to save some cash and outsource the services, results are accompanied by confusion and chaos, not to mention frustrations to the customers.

I am still dumbfounded on how a multi-billion dollar company like CX doesn't have their own IT staff top-to-bottom. I'm not talking about "helpdesk" type, but an entire department that oversees all IT related issues. Especially airline industry where IT is heavily relied upon.

Dr. HFH Feb 21, 2012 5:20 pm


Originally Posted by Cathay Boy (Post 18058218)
I am still dumbfounded on how a multi-billion dollar company like CX doesn't have their own IT staff top-to-bottom. I'm not talking about "helpdesk" type, but an entire department that oversees all IT related issues. Especially airline industry where IT is heavily relied upon.

Are we talking about the same thing? Lots of large companies outsource data center management.

newtoairfrance Feb 21, 2012 6:22 pm


Originally Posted by Cathay Boy (Post 18058218)
I am still dumbfounded on how a multi-billion dollar company like CX doesn't have their own IT staff top-to-bottom. I'm not talking about "helpdesk" type, but an entire department that oversees all IT related issues. Especially airline industry where IT is heavily relied upon.

Actually many "multi billion" companies are like this? Maybe it doesn't work that way for people in EWR?

Cathay Boy Feb 21, 2012 7:28 pm


Originally Posted by newtoairfrance (Post 18058997)
Actually many "multi billion" companies are like this? Maybe it doesn't work that way for people in EWR?

I see my "friend" is back... :D

peasant Feb 21, 2012 8:22 pm

It is a fair point though - there are very few airlines that don't outsource large portions of their IT value chain. For example, bulk of bookings for "legacy' airlines come via GDS. Low cost airlines don't do that, but almost all of them outsource their booking system to Accenture (Navitaire)

ak333 Feb 21, 2012 8:29 pm

This has nothing to do with outsourcing or not. This entire debacle is due to the fact that each upgrade comes off of an old legacy system that dates back to the 1960s. As I mentioned numerous times in the past, airlines that switch/modernize their reservation system without exception all have major problems. I expect you'll be seeing glitches for at least the next six months if not longer. And then just wait until part 2! :p

Cathay Boy Feb 22, 2012 8:52 pm


Originally Posted by ak333 (Post 18059561)
This has nothing to do with outsourcing or not. This entire debacle is due to the fact that each upgrade comes off of an old legacy system that dates back to the 1960s. As I mentioned numerous times in the past, airlines that switch/modernize their reservation system without exception all have major problems. I expect you'll be seeing glitches for at least the next six months if not longer. And then just wait until part 2! :p

Reminds me of a job that I did for a 1000+ employees company to do server migration: Windows NT 4.0 Server to Windows 2003 Server. That was very fun.


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