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fakecd Aug 13, 2013 10:45 pm

apparently the landing fees at EWR is a lot cheaper than JFK. therefore cost saving can be significant. Downside is EWR is United Hub so One World network might be limited. Well I guess they can always fly to ORD or LAX for connection to other US cities, so EWR looks more like point-to-point destination. And as some said, maybe this is targeted more for leisure travellers. I wouldn't be surprised if CX announce special CXholiday package and/or fanfare with rediculously cheap fares limited to EWR - well the marketing stunt will save them advertising fees.

I don't know if some poster think we live in 1990s or watched too much of Gordon Gekko regarding "taking limo/helicopters" to JFK from Manhatten... I haven't seen that for a while around me.

correctioncx Aug 13, 2013 11:41 pm


Originally Posted by eponymous_coward (Post 21268478)
There are very few US destinations that can consistently have any demand for 3-cabin F cabins. CX probably serves all of them (JFK, SFO, LAX, maybe ORD). EWR isn't a bad choice, given that.

CX will not offer F to EWR

lingua101 Aug 14, 2013 2:20 am


Originally Posted by fakecd (Post 21268871)
apparently the landing fees at EWR is a lot cheaper than JFK. therefore cost saving can be significant. Downside is EWR is United Hub so One World network might be limited. Well I guess they can always fly to ORD or LAX for connection to other US cities, so EWR looks more like point-to-point destination.

I think thery should do DFW. it is AA hub and people can literally connect to anywhere in US and also Canada and Mexico.

DFW area has a significant Asian population also.

incognitoMD Aug 14, 2013 2:51 am


Originally Posted by lingua101 (Post 21269435)
I think thery should do DFW. it is AA hub and people can literally connect to anywhere in US and also Canada and Mexico.

DFW area has a significant Asian population also.

Much agreed. Afterall, DFW is AA's own backyard, and why there is no direct service to such an important Asian gateway is questionable.

A while ago, there were rumors that AA wanted CX to fly DFW-HKG, just like QF flying DFW-SYD. I am going to guess that post-merger (if it happens), AA will be flying DFW-HKG on their own metal.

Kachjc Aug 14, 2013 3:12 am

it will be stupid for AA to fly to HKG, simply have more costs and miss the chance of launching another Asian Destination that OW does not offer- they can just codeshare with CX and say flyo to Shanghai or Bangkok or Taipei instead from DFW- considering AA has limited aircraft most new ones are just replacing old ones

it like AA wanting to fly to Sydney- better QF fly it and thus AA automatically serves Sydney and can use its aircraft to fly to Seoul for example

also it means there is a net total more OW coverage transpacific!!

anyways mine is just from a passenger perspective

also if CX wants DFW AA will have to play safe considering the fact that CX is not close to Oneworld carriers at all and losing CX would be horrid for OW

some have suggested CX enter into a JL like partnership with AA- difference is CX is the healthiest airline in OW in terms of finances , not to mention on over 90% of routes CX flies on it is the dominant carrier and fights to keep it that way

Kachjc Aug 14, 2013 3:15 am

EWR is a good choice

but I agree CX should try launch other US cities!!

sonicking Aug 14, 2013 12:55 pm


Originally Posted by jxtai (Post 21267554)
YAY!! Finally !! Never have to fly United again!!!

I will reconsider all my linkages (credit card, frequent flyer, etc.) with United because of this!

maortega15 Aug 14, 2013 3:47 pm

So basically, CX will sort of be like BA with multiple frequencies to JFK and one flight to EWR. I'm not sure how many flights BA has to EWR and if F is offered. BA has 7 flights daily throughout the day to JFK on its own metal (not sure if its accurate) while CX has 4 with 1 flight via Vancouver, EK has 2 A380's to JFK and soon to come 1 77W via MXP. CX is king when it comes to frequency to Asia.

eponymous_coward Aug 14, 2013 6:27 pm


Originally Posted by correctioncx (Post 21269034)
CX will not offer F to EWR

Yes, that's sort implied by my not saying EWR can support F?

Kachjc Aug 14, 2013 9:58 pm


Originally Posted by maortega15 (Post 21273891)
So basically, CX will sort of be like BA with multiple frequencies to JFK and one flight to EWR. I'm not sure how many flights BA has to EWR and if F is offered. BA has 7 flights daily throughout the day to JFK on its own metal (not sure if its accurate) while CX has 4 with 1 flight via Vancouver, EK has 2 A380's to JFK and soon to come 1 77W via MXP. CX is king when it comes to frequency to Asia.

yeah very few airlines , if any at all can beat CX on Asian frequencies!!

DWFI Aug 14, 2013 11:37 pm


Originally Posted by AA_EXP09 (Post 21268559)
OK, what about SEA, DFW, MIA, IAH, DEN?
These all have at least one carrier with international F.

You forgot IAD (and PHX, ATL, BOS, etc etc etc)

Doesn't mean that CX (or the other airline in question) can profitably fill that F cabin with fare paying pax. As much as I'd like to think so, CX does not operate the F cabin solely to take pax on awards.

AA_EXP09 Aug 14, 2013 11:38 pm


Originally Posted by DWFI (Post 21275996)
You forgot IAD (and PHX, ATL, BOS, etc etc etc)

Doesn't mean that CX (or the other airline in question) can profitably fill that F cabin with fare paying pax. As much as I'd like to think so, CX does not operate the F cabin solely to take pax on awards.

Tell me about all the AA flyers that fly BA when there is a YQ free option on AA (despite a connection, it's worth it.)
I also doubt that they lose money on awards but cover cost.

Too much travel Aug 15, 2013 2:48 am


Originally Posted by maortega15 (Post 21273891)
So basically, CX will sort of be like BA with multiple frequencies to JFK and one flight to EWR. I'm not sure how many flights BA has to EWR and if F is offered. BA has 7 flights daily throughout the day to JFK on its own metal (not sure if its accurate) while CX has 4 with 1 flight via Vancouver, EK has 2 A380's to JFK and soon to come 1 77W via MXP. CX is king when it comes to frequency to Asia.

To be precise, there are 8 daily JFK flights and 2 daily EWR flights on BA metal (with F on EWR as well as JFK). Additionally there are the two LCY-JFK all-J flights.

bagold Aug 15, 2013 6:52 am


Originally Posted by Cathay Boy (Post 21265239)
77G sounds about right. Bankers and major CEOs will gladly get in their limousines/helicopters to JFK. Jersey, Philadelphia, northereast Penn are middle- to upper-middle class pax that will be serve just as fine with J, Y+, and Y cabins. Good move by CX in my opinion.

speak for yourself but i would have taken CX out of EWR if they had F.

themapelligroup Aug 15, 2013 9:10 am

BA is set to introduce its new 787-8 to EWR in October without F cabin


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