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maortega15 Aug 13, 2013 6:38 am

Looks like my initial flight numbers were way off but the departure and arrival times were pretty close. :p

And I had a hunch that EWR will be 77G.

goingbananas Aug 13, 2013 7:46 am


Originally Posted by maortega15 (Post 21263113)
Looks like my initial flight numbers were way off but the departure and arrival times were pretty close. :p

And I had a hunch that EWR will be 77G.

I did as well, since Continental (I mean UA), flies EWR-HKG with no F/C. I was hoping CX would offer F/C as well...especially for award space! :p

beckoa Aug 13, 2013 8:36 am

Makes sense - not sure how long its been up (perhaps since last EWR announcement) but on the Contact Us page it has EWR listed... saw this last night.

Shame no F :(

kaka Aug 13, 2013 11:42 am

i think this flight will be capitalized by people who doesnt want to trek over to JFK (changing trains is eek!) with a price premium (like Haneda).

Surely there are enough people to fill the J cabons and enough few for the cattles.

As to F... frequency and lounge!

yvrguy Aug 13, 2013 12:01 pm


Originally Posted by beckoa (Post 21263674)

Shame no F :(

A big shame. I was looking forward to not trekking all the way out to JFK.

Cathay Boy Aug 13, 2013 12:03 pm


Originally Posted by kaka (Post 21265063)
i think this flight will be capitalized by people who doesnt want to trek over to JFK (changing trains is eek!) with a price premium (like Haneda).

Surely there are enough people to fill the J cabons and enough few for the cattles.

As to F... frequency and lounge!

77G sounds about right. Bankers and major CEOs will gladly get in their limousines/helicopters to JFK. Jersey, Philadelphia, northereast Penn are middle- to upper-middle class pax that will be serve just as fine with J, Y+, and Y cabins. Good move by CX in my opinion.

ANZ787900 Aug 13, 2013 2:58 pm


Originally Posted by Cathay Boy (Post 21265239)
77G sounds about right. Bankers and major CEOs will gladly get in their limousines/helicopters to JFK. Jersey, Philadelphia, northereast Penn are middle- to upper-middle class pax that will be serve just as fine with J, Y+, and Y cabins. Good move by CX in my opinion.

The thing is the 77H is far more premium heavy. I suppose if they do well enough, they can always shift it to a 77H but that's 19 more F/J seats. Sounds like they expect this to have significant Y demand too in order to fill the 80 extra Y seats.

Spiff Aug 13, 2013 3:17 pm

Well, that sucks. :td:

Maybe CX will choose their next US destination more wisely.

TheBOSman Aug 13, 2013 3:25 pm


Originally Posted by ANZ787900 (Post 21266515)
The thing is the 77H is far more premium heavy. I suppose if they do well enough, they can always shift it to a 77H but that's 19 more F/J seats. Sounds like they expect this to have significant Y demand too in order to fill the 80 extra Y seats.

How is the Y demand on JFK-HKG? I'm guessing they could very slightly undersell their current cheapest economy fare on JFK-HKG with EWR-HKG to nudge many people over to Newark to help fill the plane.

makin'miles Aug 13, 2013 3:59 pm


Originally Posted by correctioncx (Post 21201925)
Other than European and US airlines which Asian airline serves both JFK and EWR with the exception of SQ which will be terminating EWR soon

Which Asian airline has 5X daily service to the New York City area? I don't think any east Asian carrier has more than 2 or 3X daily service to NYC (or am I wrong?). With CX's volumes, adding service to EWR starts to make more sense. If BA had 2X daily flights to New York, they'd be consolidated at a single airport as well.

PaulInTheSky Aug 13, 2013 5:15 pm


Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 21266617)
Well, that sucks. :td:

Maybe CX will choose their next US destination more wisely.

CX sees the NYC market very lucrative. I can imagine the fact that in peak seasons, all the JFK-HKG got sold out and CX keeps asking for VDBs.

Since when CX would like to work with AA/JL? To me, they really don't care what AA/JL's network does. There is a reason why CX doesn't seem to want to share any part of JV with JL/AA. All the VDBs alone are more than enough to get a daily flight out from another huge NYC market.

Huge competition against UA. I think a lot of people would choose to go out of their way by driving, taking trains instead of flying lousy Q400s to EWR and connect to HKG. I have so many friends making the case of going down from ROC/BUF because NYC-HKG prices are way cheaper.


Just like ORD, I believe EWR will succeed big time. It's good to get bonus RDMs for us following the new CX route on our beloved AA FFP.


Originally Posted by TheBOSman (Post 21266664)
How is the Y demand on JFK-HKG? I'm guessing they could very slightly undersell their current cheapest economy fare on JFK-HKG with EWR-HKG to nudge many people over to Newark to help fill the plane.

My take - They don't even have to. They will fill it up no matter what.

Dieuwer Aug 13, 2013 5:27 pm


Originally Posted by Paulakers2010 (Post 21267279)
Huge competition against UA. I think a lot of people would choose to go out of their way by driving, taking trains instead of flying lousy Q400s to EWR and connect to HKG. I have so many friends making the case of going down from ROC/BUF because NYC-HKG prices are way cheaper.

Maybe CX can sign a deal with Amtrak. ZFV-EWR-HKG as it were.

jxtai Aug 13, 2013 6:08 pm


Originally Posted by mecabq (Post 21263017)



YAY!! Finally !! Never have to fly United again!!!

eponymous_coward Aug 13, 2013 9:14 pm


Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 21266617)
Well, that sucks. :td:

Maybe CX will choose their next US destination more wisely.

There are very few US destinations that can consistently have any demand for 3-cabin F cabins. CX probably serves all of them (JFK, SFO, LAX, maybe ORD). EWR isn't a bad choice, given that.

AA_EXP09 Aug 13, 2013 9:30 pm


Originally Posted by eponymous_coward (Post 21268478)
There are very few US destinations that can consistently have any demand for 3-cabin F cabins. CX probably serves all of them (JFK, SFO, LAX, maybe ORD). EWR isn't a bad choice, given that.

OK, what about SEA, DFW, MIA, IAH, DEN?
These all have at least one carrier with international F.


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