Driving Across the Border from U.S. to Canada: Options & Experiences
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#437
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My friend and I passed through the border through St. Armand/Highgate Springs. The paperwork part went fine and they accepted my printed Walgreens rapid NAAT (ID Now) and everything. The officer kept asking me about my citizenship even though he was literally holding my US passport. He didn’t realize there were next-gen passports and was like “what the hell” looking at it. I explained they only started rolling out recently.
He gave us two covid test kits and said we were both randomly selected. He gave us a yellow ticket and told us to park instead of going to the testing tent. At this point we thought they were making us wait to go to the tent.
Turns out it had nothing to do with covid at all. Two officers came out and questioned us hard. They didn’t like the fact that we’re both freelancers and I was only staying five days while he was staying in Quebec City for a month. We answered everything truthfully but also went through all our things. One officer kept claiming she was “confused” by my story and kept asking why I was the one renting the car and not my friend since he lives in Vermont and not me. Which is like, what the hell.
He’s also supposed to go France from Quebec City and kept hassling him to show proof. He didn’t have internet on his phone (no international roaming) so he used my phone to look up the ticket and that’s when they let us go. She also asked me what I planned to do with the car coming back to Vermont, and I said I’ll drop it off at the airport and return to Denver.
I know supposedly there’s some sort of point to these questions but this was ridiculous and the most humiliating border experience since I came to the US the first time ever as an 18-year-old international student. I’m hoping to go to Europe in Nov and I really hope they don’t also take issue with my freelancing or scrutinize things too much for our own good. Do I have to come up with a full itinerary for going to Europe too it order to satisfy them or do I have to bleach my skin instead and change my name to an English one?
The testing part was ok though it took time to register the online profile. The Dyna whatever the hell asked us to enter an address to quarantine and the lady in charge insisted we had to enter our home addresses in the US. But there was no option to choose a different country. Even the Google addresses bar only showed addresses in Canada when I tried typing my US address as per her order.
He gave us two covid test kits and said we were both randomly selected. He gave us a yellow ticket and told us to park instead of going to the testing tent. At this point we thought they were making us wait to go to the tent.
Turns out it had nothing to do with covid at all. Two officers came out and questioned us hard. They didn’t like the fact that we’re both freelancers and I was only staying five days while he was staying in Quebec City for a month. We answered everything truthfully but also went through all our things. One officer kept claiming she was “confused” by my story and kept asking why I was the one renting the car and not my friend since he lives in Vermont and not me. Which is like, what the hell.
He’s also supposed to go France from Quebec City and kept hassling him to show proof. He didn’t have internet on his phone (no international roaming) so he used my phone to look up the ticket and that’s when they let us go. She also asked me what I planned to do with the car coming back to Vermont, and I said I’ll drop it off at the airport and return to Denver.
I know supposedly there’s some sort of point to these questions but this was ridiculous and the most humiliating border experience since I came to the US the first time ever as an 18-year-old international student. I’m hoping to go to Europe in Nov and I really hope they don’t also take issue with my freelancing or scrutinize things too much for our own good. Do I have to come up with a full itinerary for going to Europe too it order to satisfy them or do I have to bleach my skin instead and change my name to an English one?
The testing part was ok though it took time to register the online profile. The Dyna whatever the hell asked us to enter an address to quarantine and the lady in charge insisted we had to enter our home addresses in the US. But there was no option to choose a different country. Even the Google addresses bar only showed addresses in Canada when I tried typing my US address as per her order.
#438
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My friend and I passed through the border through St. Armand/Highgate Springs. The paperwork part went fine and they accepted my printed Walgreens rapid NAAT (ID Now) and everything. The officer kept asking me about my citizenship even though he was literally holding my US passport. He didn’t realize there were next-gen passports and was like “what the hell” looking at it. I explained they only started rolling out recently.
He gave us two covid test kits and said we were both randomly selected. He gave us a yellow ticket and told us to park instead of going to the testing tent. At this point we thought they were making us wait to go to the tent.
Turns out it had nothing to do with covid at all. Two officers came out and questioned us hard. They didn’t like the fact that we’re both freelancers and I was only staying five days while he was staying in Quebec City for a month. We answered everything truthfully but also went through all our things. One officer kept claiming she was “confused” by my story and kept asking why I was the one renting the car and not my friend since he lives in Vermont and not me. Which is like, what the hell.
He’s also supposed to go France from Quebec City and kept hassling him to show proof. He didn’t have internet on his phone (no international roaming) so he used my phone to look up the ticket and that’s when they let us go. She also asked me what I planned to do with the car coming back to Vermont, and I said I’ll drop it off at the airport and return to Denver.
I know supposedly there’s some sort of point to these questions but this was ridiculous and the most humiliating border experience since I came to the US the first time ever as an 18-year-old international student. I’m hoping to go to Europe in Nov and I really hope they don’t also take issue with my freelancing or scrutinize things too much for our own good. Do I have to come up with a full itinerary for going to Europe too it order to satisfy them or do I have to bleach my skin instead and change my name to an English one?
The testing part was ok though it took time to register the online profile. The Dyna whatever the hell asked us to enter an address to quarantine and the lady in charge insisted we had to enter our home addresses in the US. But there was no option to choose a different country. Even the Google addresses bar only showed addresses in Canada when I tried typing my US address as per her order.
He gave us two covid test kits and said we were both randomly selected. He gave us a yellow ticket and told us to park instead of going to the testing tent. At this point we thought they were making us wait to go to the tent.
Turns out it had nothing to do with covid at all. Two officers came out and questioned us hard. They didn’t like the fact that we’re both freelancers and I was only staying five days while he was staying in Quebec City for a month. We answered everything truthfully but also went through all our things. One officer kept claiming she was “confused” by my story and kept asking why I was the one renting the car and not my friend since he lives in Vermont and not me. Which is like, what the hell.
He’s also supposed to go France from Quebec City and kept hassling him to show proof. He didn’t have internet on his phone (no international roaming) so he used my phone to look up the ticket and that’s when they let us go. She also asked me what I planned to do with the car coming back to Vermont, and I said I’ll drop it off at the airport and return to Denver.
I know supposedly there’s some sort of point to these questions but this was ridiculous and the most humiliating border experience since I came to the US the first time ever as an 18-year-old international student. I’m hoping to go to Europe in Nov and I really hope they don’t also take issue with my freelancing or scrutinize things too much for our own good. Do I have to come up with a full itinerary for going to Europe too it order to satisfy them or do I have to bleach my skin instead and change my name to an English one?
The testing part was ok though it took time to register the online profile. The Dyna whatever the hell asked us to enter an address to quarantine and the lady in charge insisted we had to enter our home addresses in the US. But there was no option to choose a different country. Even the Google addresses bar only showed addresses in Canada when I tried typing my US address as per her order.
Yes, a secondary is humiliating as it is essentially stating the primary officer didn't fully trust you but they're just doing their job. CBSA is primarily interested in working in Canada without a permit and narcotics.
Like ArriveCAN, the test kit is expecting a Canadian address where a Purolator courier will come to pickup the test sample. You have to do the test within 24 hours of arrival into Canada.
Last edited by seawolf; Oct 26, 2021 at 6:56 am
#439
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They had us do the test then and there at a tent and made us create accounts with that company and immediately took the sample. Said the result would be out in 3-4 days so I might be back in the US before the result even comes out.
#440
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I'm still debating if running around VT to find a place to get a test is worth the quick trip I want to do for some shopping in the 10/30 mall. Luckily, I will be visiting family up in VT so I have time to think about it but I noticed that there are very few places to get tested in VT. I took a peak inside the ArriveCAN portal and it seems fairly easy to fill out, other than my quarantine plan because I'm not sticking around for more than 1-2 hours. I go up, get my stuff and return to where I will be staying in VT.
Took the covid 19 PCR test at Kinney's on Oct 29, and got the results on Oct 30.
I had trouble answering the questions related to the quarantine in the ArriveCAN app because I was only going be there for a quick trip so I did the best I could. I ended up getting a "I" and "Q" for my receipt.
I entered through the St-Armand/Philipsburg checkpoint and the CBSA officer asked the usual questions and took my Passport Card and test results. I was asked if I had the code, to which I answered "Yes". I presented my phone so he can verify it but, the hand with my phone was left hanging out the drivers side window since he didn't bother with it.
There was no discussion of my quarantine plan, about my recent trip to Mexico, nor was I sent to secondary for any reason. I was not asked for my CDC card even though I had it.
A few years ago I got sent to secondary at this checkpoint and it was a terrible experience. I have passed through this checkpoint many times and the one near Richford, VT in the past. I think I know why I was sent to secondary the last time I went through.
The 20 min line at the Highgate Springs, VT checkpoint on return to the USA was mainly filled with cars with Vermont plates (including the one I borrowed from a family member). Not many people from Massachusetts as it was before pre-covid, probably because of the requirement for the covid 19 testing to enter Canada and trying to time it right.
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#441
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Ended up taking a day trip to Montreal for some quick shopping.
Took the covid 19 PCR test at Kinney's on Oct 29, and got the results on Oct 30.
I had trouble answering the questions related to the quarantine in the ArriveCAN app because I was only going be there for a quick trip so I did the best I could. I ended up getting a "I" and "Q" for my receipt.
I entered through the St-Armand/Philipsburg checkpoint and the CBSA officer asked the usual questions and took my Passport Card and test results. I was asked if I had the code, to which I answered "Yes". I presented my phone so he can verify it but, the hand with my phone was left hanging out the drivers side window since he didn't bother with it.
There was no discussion of my quarantine plan, about my recent trip to Mexico, nor was I sent to secondary for any reason. I was not asked for my CDC card even though I had it.
A few years ago I got sent to secondary at this checkpoint and it was a terrible experience. I have passed through this checkpoint many times and the one near Richford, VT in the past. I think I know why I was sent to secondary the last time I went through.
The 20 min line at the Highgate Springs, VT checkpoint on return to the USA was mainly filled with cars with Vermont plates (including the one I borrowed from a family member). Not many people from Massachusetts as it was before pre-covid, probably because of the requirement for the covid 19 testing to enter Canada and trying to time it right.
Took the covid 19 PCR test at Kinney's on Oct 29, and got the results on Oct 30.
I had trouble answering the questions related to the quarantine in the ArriveCAN app because I was only going be there for a quick trip so I did the best I could. I ended up getting a "I" and "Q" for my receipt.
I entered through the St-Armand/Philipsburg checkpoint and the CBSA officer asked the usual questions and took my Passport Card and test results. I was asked if I had the code, to which I answered "Yes". I presented my phone so he can verify it but, the hand with my phone was left hanging out the drivers side window since he didn't bother with it.
There was no discussion of my quarantine plan, about my recent trip to Mexico, nor was I sent to secondary for any reason. I was not asked for my CDC card even though I had it.
A few years ago I got sent to secondary at this checkpoint and it was a terrible experience. I have passed through this checkpoint many times and the one near Richford, VT in the past. I think I know why I was sent to secondary the last time I went through.
The 20 min line at the Highgate Springs, VT checkpoint on return to the USA was mainly filled with cars with Vermont plates (including the one I borrowed from a family member). Not many people from Massachusetts as it was before pre-covid, probably because of the requirement for the covid 19 testing to enter Canada and trying to time it right.
#442
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CBSA doesn't need the ArriveCAN code. They can lookup based on the travel documentation you entered into ArriveCAN (assuming it is the same one you presented at the border). Image of the vaccination proof will come up from ArriveCAN. They may ask you to show the test results as that is not in ArriveCAN.
#443
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CBSA doesn't need the ArriveCAN code. They can lookup based on the travel documentation you entered into ArriveCAN (assuming it is the same one you presented at the border). Image of the vaccination proof will come up from ArriveCAN. They may ask you to show the test results as that is not in ArriveCAN.
Makes me wonder why they don't let you upload test results through the app as well. One would think it would make things easier all around.
#444
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Random data point: in ArriveCAN I said I will enter Canada at Peace Bridge. When I drove by the traffic was insane, the line started on I-190. Proceeded to drive to Whirlpool Rapids Bridge where I was the only car. So even if you put in a different entry point the agent didn't seem to have an issue with that.
#445
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Hi everyone,
Planning to drive from Seattle to Vancouver next week, most likely through Peach Arch. Has anyone gone through there recently?
If you are selected for a random arrival Covid test, do they give you a take-home test or do you have to do it at the border? (We have not been outside the US in the past 14 days).
Thank you!
Planning to drive from Seattle to Vancouver next week, most likely through Peach Arch. Has anyone gone through there recently?
If you are selected for a random arrival Covid test, do they give you a take-home test or do you have to do it at the border? (We have not been outside the US in the past 14 days).
Thank you!
#446
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Hi everyone,
Planning to drive from Seattle to Vancouver next week, most likely through Peach Arch. Has anyone gone through there recently?
If you are selected for a random arrival Covid test, do they give you a take-home test or do you have to do it at the border? (We have not been outside the US in the past 14 days).
Thank you!
Planning to drive from Seattle to Vancouver next week, most likely through Peach Arch. Has anyone gone through there recently?
If you are selected for a random arrival Covid test, do they give you a take-home test or do you have to do it at the border? (We have not been outside the US in the past 14 days).
Thank you!
Safe travels!
#447
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I've done that trip a few times, most recently last weekend. They gave out home test kits to everyone on one of the trips (saw the same for cars ahead of us). You have to schedule the test online and then connect with a video call so they can monitor the test through to sealing the item in the shipping box. Took 5 mins to schedule and then 10-12 mins for the actual test the next day. You drop it off at fedex for delivery. The test has to be done within 24 hours. The test was picked up on a Monday and we were back before the results came in. All in all, it was pretty straight forward.
Safe travels!
Safe travels!
#448
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Data point (US citizen): drove from Detroit to Windsor this morning, and was expecting to be selected for testing as I had traveled outside the US within the last 14 days. Surprisingly, the officer didn't mention it and I was waved through after showing PCR results.
#449
Join Date: Feb 2013
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questions about random Covid test selection / Whistler
I'm thinking about a quick trip up to Whistler from Seattle, spending probably <48 hours in Canada.
I have a few questions as it relates to if I get selected for random arrival test.
1). Are all random arrival tests at land borders (eg, Peace Arch) take-home kit that you do within 24hours? In other words, it's possible to not have to quarantine the first ~20hours after arrival under any circumstances?
2). I understand that you use some type of app to schedule a video appointment within 24hours of arrival where they watch you do the self-test. Are these video appointments available abundantly, or is it pretty slim picking? Are appointments available as late as 6 or 7pm at night?
3). Is there an authorized sample drop off centre in Whistler? I see that there is a Fedex office in Whistler, but are all Fedex offices authorized drop off sites?
4). Just want to confirm that you're allowed to leave Canada before the results come back.
Thanks a lot!
I have a few questions as it relates to if I get selected for random arrival test.
1). Are all random arrival tests at land borders (eg, Peace Arch) take-home kit that you do within 24hours? In other words, it's possible to not have to quarantine the first ~20hours after arrival under any circumstances?
2). I understand that you use some type of app to schedule a video appointment within 24hours of arrival where they watch you do the self-test. Are these video appointments available abundantly, or is it pretty slim picking? Are appointments available as late as 6 or 7pm at night?
3). Is there an authorized sample drop off centre in Whistler? I see that there is a Fedex office in Whistler, but are all Fedex offices authorized drop off sites?
4). Just want to confirm that you're allowed to leave Canada before the results come back.
Thanks a lot!
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