MCT at YVR US to Intl
Jun 8, 2012 | 8:38 pm
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MCT at YVR US to Intl
I've searched here and in the AC forum and amazingly didn't find the answer.
Looking to understand the MCT at YVR. Coming in from the US, heading to Europe. Both legs are on AC. KVS says this (abbreviated):
[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.2/Diamond - Reference: Minimum Connection Time [MCT]: YVR/AC-AC]
I can not for the life of me tell what terminals M and S are. Based on the flights I am looking at, a 60 minute MCT would be fine, but 90 minutes wouldn't. So it seems that M to S or S to M would work, but M to M or S to S wouldn't....if I knew what those were 
Looking to understand the MCT at YVR. Coming in from the US, heading to Europe. Both legs are on AC. KVS says this (abbreviated):
[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.2/Diamond - Reference: Minimum Connection Time [MCT]: YVR/AC-AC]
Code:
DD DI ID II
STANDARD: YVR 020 060 060 090
TERMINAL: YVR M TO M 045 050 090 090
M TO S 075 075 105 060
S TO M 075 075 105 060
S TO S 045 050 090 090
Jun 8, 2012 | 8:50 pm
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There is only one terminal at YVR. Well, there is what they call the South Terminal which is for private planes, small planes and freight. Highly doubtful you're coming in there -- I have never been in that terminal, all my flights within Canada, to the US and International have all been at the main terminal.
You'll likely have to go through customs when you arrive, collect your bags and re-check them, though I could be wrong -- if you're at the same section of gates and they're able to check your bags through that would make life much easier. From my experience the flights to and from the US use one area of the terminal and the international flights are in a slightly different area. I have never done a connecting flight through YVR, just arrived and departed there so that is not my expertise. But it is nothing like O'Hare or LHR, it is a very small airport in comparison.
You'll likely have to go through customs when you arrive, collect your bags and re-check them, though I could be wrong -- if you're at the same section of gates and they're able to check your bags through that would make life much easier. From my experience the flights to and from the US use one area of the terminal and the international flights are in a slightly different area. I have never done a connecting flight through YVR, just arrived and departed there so that is not my expertise. But it is nothing like O'Hare or LHR, it is a very small airport in comparison.
Jun 8, 2012 | 9:28 pm
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There is only one terminal at YVR. Well, there is what they call the South Terminal which is for private planes, small planes and freight. Highly doubtful you're coming in there -- I have never been in that terminal, all my flights within Canada, to the US and International have all been at the main terminal.
You'll likely have to go through customs when you arrive, collect your bags and re-check them, though I could be wrong -- if you're at the same section of gates and they're able to check your bags through that would make life much easier. From my experience the flights to and from the US use one area of the terminal and the international flights are in a slightly different area. I have never done a connecting flight through YVR, just arrived and departed there so that is not my expertise. But it is nothing like O'Hare or LHR, it is a very small airport in comparison.
You'll likely have to go through customs when you arrive, collect your bags and re-check them, though I could be wrong -- if you're at the same section of gates and they're able to check your bags through that would make life much easier. From my experience the flights to and from the US use one area of the terminal and the international flights are in a slightly different area. I have never done a connecting flight through YVR, just arrived and departed there so that is not my expertise. But it is nothing like O'Hare or LHR, it is a very small airport in comparison.
I wonder if it is M=Main and S=South?? But why would that allow a shorter time? It would seem that staying in the main terminal would allow a shorter time...
There are exceptions listed in the KVS output, but without knowing M vs S, I can't tell if they apply.
Jun 9, 2012 | 8:50 am
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In thinking further, they only make you claim bags, go through customs and re-check them when the connection is for another destination within Canada, so bags should be checked through and there ought not to be that element to the connection.
I am a bit baffled as well by the time estimates, since at YVR domestics are in one wing of the main terminal that might be a 10 minute walk at most, and then flights to/from the US are in one part of the other wing, and the international ones go in another part, meaning walking time is only about 5 minutes. It might be a matter of getting out into the main terminal and then getting back in and going through security again if the gates are not in the same part of the airport.
I took a look at the airport's web site and this is their link: http://wwwnew.yvr.com/en/navigating-...rough-YVR.aspx -- it doesn't offer help on timelines, but there is a contact us link and they should be able to help confrim how much time to allow.
I am a bit baffled as well by the time estimates, since at YVR domestics are in one wing of the main terminal that might be a 10 minute walk at most, and then flights to/from the US are in one part of the other wing, and the international ones go in another part, meaning walking time is only about 5 minutes. It might be a matter of getting out into the main terminal and then getting back in and going through security again if the gates are not in the same part of the airport.
I took a look at the airport's web site and this is their link: http://wwwnew.yvr.com/en/navigating-...rough-YVR.aspx -- it doesn't offer help on timelines, but there is a contact us link and they should be able to help confrim how much time to allow.
Jun 9, 2012 | 4:18 pm
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You will come in at the "E" gates and depart from the "D" gates.
http://wwwnew.yvr.com/Libraries/Maps..._Map.sflb.ashx
Once you deplane, follow the signs for international connections. You'll go through a cursory passport check then be sent on to your gate. Once you're off the plane you're looking at a 10-12 minute walk.
http://wwwnew.yvr.com/Libraries/Maps..._Map.sflb.ashx
Once you deplane, follow the signs for international connections. You'll go through a cursory passport check then be sent on to your gate. Once you're off the plane you're looking at a 10-12 minute walk.
Jun 9, 2012 | 4:43 pm
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[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.2/Diamond - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]
Code:
LAX Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX] LON London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY QQS QQW ZLS ZEP MON 02 Jul 2012 - 09 Jul 2012 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- AC/## 4493 LAX 14:29 YVR 17:14 CR7 0 1234567 13:11 - M 02 Jul 09 Jul -> AC 854 YVR 18:30 LHR 11:40 +1 77W 0 M 3 AC 786 LAX 11:25 YYZ 18:59 EQV 0 12-4--- 13:10 2 1 02 Jul 09 Jul -> AC 848 YYZ 20:40 LHR 08:35 +1 77W 0 1 3 AC 786 LAX 11:25 YYZ 19:01 EQV 0 --3-567 13:10 2 1 02 Jul 09 Jul -> AC 848 YYZ 20:40 LHR 08:35 +1 77W 0 1 3 AC 792 LAX 13:35 YYZ 21:18 EQV 0 1234567 13:50 2 1 02 Jul 09 Jul -> AC 858 YYZ 23:20 LHR 11:25 +1 763 0 1 3 AC 794 LAX 08:30 YYZ 16:07 319 0 1234567 13:55 2 1 30 Jun 31 Jul -> AC 856 YYZ 18:20 LHR 06:25 +1 333 0 1 3 AC 786 LAX 11:25 YYZ 18:59 EQV 0 12-4--- 14:35 2 1 02 Jul 09 Jul -> AC 862 YYZ 21:55 LHR 10:00 +1 763 0 1 3 AC 786 LAX 11:25 YYZ 19:01 EQV 0 --3-567 14:35 2 1 02 Jul 09 Jul -> AC 862 YYZ 21:55 LHR 10:00 +1 763 0 1 3 AC 790 LAX 07:45 YYZ 15:22 EQV 0 1234567 14:40 2 1 02 Jul 09 Jul -> AC 856 YYZ 18:20 LHR 06:25 +1 333 0 1 3 AC/UA 5548 LAX 11:13 ORD 17:14 752 0 1------ 14:47 7 1 02 Jul 02 Jul Mon 09 Jul -> AC/## 4886 ORD 18:11 YYZ 20:44 CR7 0 2 1 -> AC 862 YYZ 21:55 LHR 10:00 +1 763 0 1 3 AC/UA 5548 LAX 11:13 ORD 17:14 752 0 -234--- 14:47 7 1 03 Jul 05 Jul -> AC/UA 5014 ORD 18:11 YYZ 20:44 319 0 1 1 -> AC 862 YYZ 21:55 LHR 10:00 +1 763 0 1 3 AC/UA 5724 LAX 12:38 DEN 16:00 319 0 ------7 14:47 7 - 08 Jul 08 Jul -> AC 1042 DEN 16:40 YYZ 21:44 319 0 - 1 -> AC 858 YYZ 23:20 LHR 11:25 +1 763 0 1 3 AC/UA 5724 LAX 12:35 DEN 15:57 320 0 --3---- 14:50 7 - 04 Jul 04 Jul -> AC 1042 DEN 16:40 YYZ 21:44 319 0 - 1 -> AC 858 YYZ 23:20 LHR 11:25 +1 763 0 1 3 AC/UA 5724 LAX 12:35 DEN 15:56 752 0 12-456- 14:50 7 - 02 Jul 09 Jul -> AC 1042 DEN 16:40 YYZ 21:44 319 0 - 1 -> AC 858 YYZ 23:20 LHR 11:25 +1 763 0 1 3 AC/UA 5548 LAX 11:09 ORD 17:10 752 0 ----5-- 14:51 7 1 06 Jul 06 Jul -> AC/UA 5014 ORD 18:11 YYZ 20:44 319 0 1 1 -> AC 862 YYZ 21:55 LHR 10:00 +1 763 0 1 3 AC/UA 5548 LAX 11:09 ORD 17:10 752 0 1------ 14:51 7 1 09 Jul 09 Jul Mon 02 Jul -> AC/## 4886 ORD 18:11 YYZ 20:44 CR7 0 2 1 -> AC 862 YYZ 21:55 LHR 10:00 +1 763 0 1 3 AC/UA 5548 LAX 11:05 ORD 17:06 752 0 ------7 14:55 7 1 08 Jul 08 Jul -> AC/UA 5014 ORD 18:09 YYZ 20:42 319 0 1 1 -> AC 862 YYZ 21:55 LHR 10:00 +1 763 0 1 3 AC 794 LAX 08:30 YYZ 16:07 319 0 1------ 15:00 2 1 02 Jul 02 Jul Mon 09 Jul -> AC 490 YYZ 17:30 YUL 18:43 320 0 1 - -> AC 864 YUL 19:40 LHR 07:30 +1 333 0 - 3 AC 782 LAX 08:30 YUL 16:36 319 0 1234567 15:00 2 - 03 Jul 03 Sep Mon 02 Jul -> AC 864 YUL 19:40 LHR 07:30 +1 333 0 - 3 AC 788 LAX 22:00 YYZ 05:39 +1 321 0 1234567 15:00 2 1 22 Jun 26 Oct -> AC 868 YYZ 08:55 +1 LHR 21:00 +1 763 0 1 3 AC/UA 5548 LAX 10:48 ORD 16:49 752 0 -----6- 15:12 7 1 07 Jul 07 Jul -> AC/UA 5014 ORD 18:10 YYZ 20:43 319 0 1 1 -> AC 862 YYZ 21:55 LHR 10:00 +1 763 0 1 3 AC/UA 5548 LAX 10:48 ORD 16:49 752 0 -----6- 15:12 7 1 07 Jul 07 Jul -> AC/## 8666 ORD 17:35 YYZ 20:03 CRA 0 2 1 -> AC 862 YYZ 21:55 LHR 10:00 +1 763 0 1 3 AC/UA 5030 LAX 08:10 ORD 14:09 752 0 12345-7 15:20 7 1 02 Jul 09 Jul -> AC 520 ORD 15:45 YUL 18:44 E75 0 2 - -> AC 864 YUL 19:40 LHR 07:30 +1 333 0 - 3 AC/UA 5472 LAX 06:55 ORD 12:58 EQV 0 123456- 15:30 7 1 02 Jul 09 Jul -> AC/UA 5212 ORD 13:39 YYZ 16:09 EQV 0 1 1 -> AC 856 YYZ 18:20 LHR 06:25 +1 333 0 1 3 AC/UA 5472 LAX 06:55 ORD 13:00 738 0 ------7 15:30 7 1 08 Jul 08 Jul -> AC/UA 5212 ORD 13:39 YYZ 16:09 320 0 1 1 -> AC 856 YYZ 18:20 LHR 06:25 +1 333 0 1 3 AC 798 LAX 11:50 YUL 19:57 319 0 1234567 15:35 2 - 02 Jul 09 Jul -> AC 429 YUL 21:00 YYZ 22:15 EQV 0 - 1 -> AC 858 YYZ 23:20 LHR 11:25 +1 763 0 1 3 AC 573 LAX 14:25 YYC 18:18 E90 0 1234567 15:40 2 - 01 Jul 01 Sep -> AC/## 8369 YYC 20:55 YEG 21:46 DH3 0 - - -> AC 898 YEG 22:25 LHR 14:05 +1 763 0 - 3 AC 573 LAX 14:25 YYC 18:18 E90 0 1234567 15:40 2 - 01 Jul 03 Sep -> AC/## 8158 YYC 19:30 YEG 20:21 DH3 0 - - -> AC 898 YEG 22:25 LHR 14:05 +1 763 0 - 3 AC/UA 5038 LAX 10:18 ORD 16:17 752 0 ------7 15:42 7 1 08 Jul 08 Jul -> AC/UA 5014 ORD 18:09 YYZ 20:42 319 0 1 1 -> AC 862 YYZ 21:55 LHR 10:00 +1 763 0 1 3 AC/UA 5038 LAX 10:18 ORD 16:17 752 0 1------ 15:42 7 1 02 Jul 02 Jul Mon 09 Jul -> AC/## 4886 ORD 18:11 YYZ 20:44 CR7 0 2 1 -> AC 862 YYZ 21:55 LHR 10:00 +1 763 0 1 3 AC/UA 5038 LAX 10:18 ORD 16:17 752 0 12345-7 15:42 7 1 02 Jul 08 Jul Mon 09 Jul -> AC 510 ORD 17:35 YYZ 20:05 E75 0 2 1 -> AC 862 YYZ 21:55 LHR 10:00 +1 763 0 1 3 AC/UA 5038 LAX 10:18 ORD 16:17 752 0 -2345-- 15:42 7 1 03 Jul 06 Jul -> AC/UA 5014 ORD 18:11 YYZ 20:44 319 0 1 1 -> AC 862 YYZ 21:55 LHR 10:00 +1 763 0 1 3
Jun 9, 2012 | 6:41 pm
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[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.2/Diamond - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]
Code:
SFO San Francisco Intl CA US [KSFO] LHR London Heathrow UK [EGLL] THU 02 Aug 2012 - 09 Aug 2012 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- AC 567 SFO 15:00 YVR 17:11 E90 0 1234567 12:40 I M 01 Jul 03 Sep -> AC 854 YVR 18:30 LHR 11:40 +1 77W 0 M 3
[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.2/Diamond - Reference: Minimum Connection Time [MCT]: YVR/AC-AC]
Code:
DD DI ID II
STANDARD: YVR 020 060 060 090
TERMINAL: YVR M TO M 045 050 090 090
M TO S 075 075 105 060
S TO M 075 075 105 060
S TO S 045 050 090 090
EXCEPTIONS:
A/L FLT-NBR TR DEPARR AREA
AC M US --- --- 070 060
AC M
**END OF DISPLAY**
Nov 15, 2015 | 3:04 am
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Sorry to dig up an old thread. Trying to figure out the MCT at YVR for the following:
SFO-YVR on AC (as part of a bigger itinerary), then on a different ticket,
YVR-SEA-LAX on AS
Would 75 minutes be enough?
SFO-YVR on AC (as part of a bigger itinerary), then on a different ticket,
YVR-SEA-LAX on AS
Would 75 minutes be enough?
Nov 15, 2015 | 10:10 am
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I don't think playing MCT on separate tickets is a great decision unless you are willing to lose the second ticket.
Nov 15, 2015 | 11:08 am
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Keep in mind that you have to clear both arrival customs (primary inspection line and secondary inspection line), then outbound security, and US CBP Pre-Clearance in Vancouver.
If it is early morning on a weekday, then departure lines are longer. It might be do-able with Global Entry / Nexus, but I probably won't bet on it. If on line check is offered for your AS leg, then I would definitely do that!
If it is early morning on a weekday, then departure lines are longer. It might be do-able with Global Entry / Nexus, but I probably won't bet on it. If on line check is offered for your AS leg, then I would definitely do that!
Nov 15, 2015 | 12:00 pm
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As has been stated many many times on FT, MCT represents a carrier's willingness to assume the risk of rebooking in the case of a misconnect.
OP is on separate tickets, so he won't be a connecting passenger. If he no shows on his xYVR, that ticket will be cancelled and OP will need to buy a new ticket at walkup prices and will be able to use whatever value is retained under the fare rules of the original ticket (less any penalties). That could be anywhere from 0 to a little to a lot.
I typically allow triple the MCT for separate tickets because that accounts for most of the risks of delay.
OP is on separate tickets, so he won't be a connecting passenger. If he no shows on his xYVR, that ticket will be cancelled and OP will need to buy a new ticket at walkup prices and will be able to use whatever value is retained under the fare rules of the original ticket (less any penalties). That could be anywhere from 0 to a little to a lot.
I typically allow triple the MCT for separate tickets because that accounts for most of the risks of delay.
Nov 16, 2015 | 6:45 am
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Nov 16, 2015 | 11:26 am
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This doesn't include clearing Canada Border Services and picking up your bag from the carousel - I'd allow an hour for that.
So call it 2.5 hours - An hour to get your bag and get into Canada, and 90 minutes to drop your bag and get out.
Allow 30 minutes for the inevitable delays out of SFO, and call it three hours even.
Last edited by gglave; Nov 16, 2015 at 11:40 am