continentalclub

Not yet; I would expect the ba.com homepage to have a Sale link by lunchtime (BST). In the meantime, you'd have to check the fare rules for individual destinations.

Toronto in Club at the lowest fare, for example, is:

ILN0Y4T1

VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 24DEC16 AND ON/
BEFORE 02JAN17. ALL TRAVEL MUST BE COMPLETED BY
MIDNIGHT ON 09JAN17.

RESERVATIONS MUST BE MADE ON/AFTER 16JUN16 AND ON/
BEFORE 12JUL16.

- which is obviously very restrictive.

There's also a slightly higher fare:

IKN4S4T1

VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 14JUL16 AND ON/
BEFORE 24MAY17.

RESERVATIONS MUST BE MADE ON/AFTER 16JUN16 AND ON/
BEFORE 12JUL16.

So this is a slightly atypical sale in this case, at least.

Calchas

You must be doing something right

Virazuno

Sale seems to include Y and W too. (Not that many here care!)

E.g. NYC £435, BOM £381, DXB £349,

mikeyfly

The W deals to USA look very good for utilising GUF - £650 to LAX, SFO £795 LAS

** it's actually £100 more when making the booking **

nufnuf77

The is a I fare from INV to SEA for £850 (return all in) valid between 24th Dec and 3rd Jan I believe.

allturnleft

Is BA getting like DFS?
The last sale only finished when?

Gomac

The only possible reason is that they must be really struggling to fill their premium cabins otherwise there is no way they would be discounted again so soon, why would they? I have never seen J and F fare so cheap EX-UK.... Are their constant cost cuts starting to bite them?

London_traveller

T&Cs are now available on ba.com.

I've posted a high-level description in the Wiki - the CW and First fares that are likely to be of more interest.

As a rule of thumb:
* U.S., Canada and Sydney, outbound travel 30 June-31 August 2016
* IB-operated via Madrid to Santiago, Bogota, Panama City, 24 June 2016 to 31 March 2017
* Abu Dhabi, Mumbai, Cape Town, Delhi, Dubai, Hong Kong, Johannesburg, Kuala Lumpur, Moscow, Shanghai, Beijing, and Muscat, outbound travel between now and 27 April 2017
* Rio and Sao Paulo, 29 August 2016 to 24 May 2017
* All the rest, 24 June 2016 to 24 May 2017

For the very detailed T&Cs, look at the website!

lost_in_translation

Well, there are two ways of looking at it, the other is that they have made a conscious choice to make so many cost cuts to premium services over the last few years so that they can sell J/F at a very cheap price and still make a decent profit, actively targeting a very high load factor rather than fewer high margin passengers. I fear this is the business model that BA are pursuing in J and increasingly in F as well.

Ziz

These prices are amazing! Out in F and return in CW to Toronto is £1500! Return in F for £1800!

theonlytk

HI, I am new here so let me know if this is the wrong place.

I am looking at the BA sale right now and I usually fly from NCL via Heathrow to the US so i looked for this:

NCL to LAX, 21.11 to 08.12, Premium Economy:

NCL to LAX - flights as one booking: £1150
NCL to LHR, LHR to LAX same sflights as two bookings: £860 (i.e 120 for NCL-LHR with bags, £740 forLHR to LAX)

I am really confused why they are trying to charge me £300 more for a connecting flight from NCL? This seems to be a new thing as I used to get connecting flights for about £100 which seems reasonable.

I have 2 questions:
a) anyone have any idea why this sudden massive price jump?
b) What are the risks if I book the cheaper option, i.e. seperate bookings?

thanks a lot!

Globaliser

Welcome to FT, theonlytk!The short answer is that (at least at present) there are no premium economy sale fares filed for NCL to LAX, and the higher price that you are seeing is a non-sale fare. That is why there's a big gap between that and the sale fare starting at LHR. I suspect that in the past, you've seen a smaller gap simply because there were ex-NCL sale fares as well.

I don't know whether BA will file sale fares for NCL later on. You'll have to keep checking.

If you book two separate tickets, then you would have to expect two main risks. First, under BA's new policy, any checked bags would not be through-checked from NCL to LAX but would have to be reclaimed at LHR and checked-in again. Second, if the NCL-LHR flight is delayed and you miss your LHR-LAX flight, you don't have any contractual entitlement to be reaccommodated on another LHR-LAX flight and BA could in theory treat you as if you had simply missed your LHR-LAX flight.

In addition, you may have different checked baggage allowances for NCL-LHR and LHR-LAX. If you were to exceed the lower allowance, you may have to pay for the excess baggage. If you bought a through ticket covering both sectors, the more generous allowance would apply for the whole NCL-LAX journey.

Obviously, the same also applies in the other direction.

theonlytk

Thanks Globaliser!
I thought as much with regards to the risks, I might just head down to Heathrow on the train, fly from there direct and save myself a few bob.

However with the price itself it still seems odd - the almost £1200 were there before and after the sale (makes sense if as you say NCL-LAX isn't a sale fare but LHR-LAX is). Even before the sale thought it was around £950 from LHR to LAX and £1250 from NCL, effectively still charging me £300 for that connecting flight - sale or no sale. I am sure that for the last 5 years or so that I have flown to the US via LHR I have never paid more than £100 or so for a connecting flight even during non-sale times.

It's just disappointing how BA are treating non-London customers...

Flyingturkey

I would disagree, London is normally the most expensive place to fly from. This is a welcome change. Saves me planning journeys to DUB or CDG!!

strichener

Not if you are in the UK it isn't.