Feb 5, 2024, 2:21 am
Last edit by: crazy8534
BA FAQ : Tier Point collection changes | Executive Club | British Airways
What is happening?
British Airways are changing the TP collection year (also known as the BA Executive Club Year) so that everyone will have an expiry of 31st March going forward.
Their email states:
From next year, your Tier status will reset at the same time as everyone else's, meaning you’ll have the same Tier Point collection year as friends and family who are also members of the Executive Club.
In future, the Tier Point collection year will start on 1 April and end on 31 March every year. The change will be in place for all British Airways Executive Club Members starting from 1 April 2025.
How will this affect my current year?
You will earn and achieve/retain status as per the current set-up until the end of your current TP year.
e.g. If you have achieved or expect to achieve 1500TPs before the end of your current TP year (8th of a month) you will retain or be promoted to Gold status.
How will this affect the subsequent year?
Your next TP earning year will be SHORTER and will end on 31st March 2025.
You will have between the start of your next TP earning year and 31st March 2025 to earn the required number of TPs to attain or retain status.
e.g. if you are Gold you need to get 1500TPs between 8th October 2024 and 31st March 2025.
HOWEVER: BA will add all of the TPs that you earn between 1st April 2024 and the end of your current membership year (in the case above 8th October 2024) to next year's total.
This means that your target for TP earning in the year [Start of year something 8th of a month] 24- 31st March 25 will be your normal target (e.g. 1500TPs) MINUS whatever you earned from 1st April 2024 until the end of your current year.
Effectively, you should consider 1st April 2024 as the new start of your next TP earning year for TP collection purposes.
Status earned in the new (next) year will be valid until end of April 2026.
How will my current status card expiry date be affected?
BA have confirmed that it will NOT be affected.
i.e. if you have Silver status with a card expiry of 31st December 2025 (having already achieved silver renewal since 8th November 2023) this will not be affected.
If you subsequently drop to Bronze status then this will expire 30th April 2026.
Will I be able to double-dip (use the April 24 - TP collection year end date TPs twice) for Lifetime TPs?
No
Will I be able to double-dip for GUFs etc.?
I don't think we know yet.
If I earn TPs in the Amex TP offer between 1st April and 21st May 2024 (when the offer expires) will these count in the double-dip?
We believe that the answer to this is yes.
Has the 'grace' period for status reduced?
Yes.
Whereas it used to be until the end of the month following your year end (i.e. if you had a year ending 8th October you would be Gold with a card valid until 30th November) everyone will now have a card that is valid until 30th April.
Just under 2 months 'grace' has decreased to just under 1 month.
What about GGL status retention?
BA have confirmed that you must achieve 3000TP, during your SHORTENED/transition year (with the addition of the ‘doubled’ TPs from April 1st 2024) in order to maintain continuous GGL membership. If you fail to do so your GGL status will expire at the date of card expiry from your last 8-8th year (even though this may be as late as 30th April 2026) and you would need to requalify at 5000TPs again.
This has particular implications for those who may be earning a significant number of TPs in February and March 2024 as these will not be counted into the SHORTENED/transition year.
Worked example (crazy8534)?
crazy8534's current status/TP earning year ends 8th June 2024.
He has already renewed GGL status so has a card that will expire with GGL status on 31st July 2025.
He will earn 2000TPs between 1st April 2024 and 8th June 2024.
His TP year will reset on 8th June 2024 and he will have 0TPs.
BA will then add the TPs that he has earned between 1st April 2024 and 8th June 2024 to his current year total (but not his lifetime total), giving him 2000TPs for the year 24/25.
He will need to earn another 1000TPs between 8th June 2024 and 31st March 2025 to renew GGL.
If he renews GGL then his new status will last until 30th April 2026.
If he fails to renew GGL status before 31st March 2025 then it will still last until 31st July 2025 (as per his current card).
He will then fall to either Gold (if earned >1500TPs) or Silver (if earned <1500TPs) until 30th April 2026.
What is happening?
British Airways are changing the TP collection year (also known as the BA Executive Club Year) so that everyone will have an expiry of 31st March going forward.
Their email states:
From next year, your Tier status will reset at the same time as everyone else's, meaning you’ll have the same Tier Point collection year as friends and family who are also members of the Executive Club.
In future, the Tier Point collection year will start on 1 April and end on 31 March every year. The change will be in place for all British Airways Executive Club Members starting from 1 April 2025.
How will this affect my current year?
You will earn and achieve/retain status as per the current set-up until the end of your current TP year.
e.g. If you have achieved or expect to achieve 1500TPs before the end of your current TP year (8th of a month) you will retain or be promoted to Gold status.
How will this affect the subsequent year?
Your next TP earning year will be SHORTER and will end on 31st March 2025.
You will have between the start of your next TP earning year and 31st March 2025 to earn the required number of TPs to attain or retain status.
e.g. if you are Gold you need to get 1500TPs between 8th October 2024 and 31st March 2025.
HOWEVER: BA will add all of the TPs that you earn between 1st April 2024 and the end of your current membership year (in the case above 8th October 2024) to next year's total.
This means that your target for TP earning in the year [Start of year something 8th of a month] 24- 31st March 25 will be your normal target (e.g. 1500TPs) MINUS whatever you earned from 1st April 2024 until the end of your current year.
Effectively, you should consider 1st April 2024 as the new start of your next TP earning year for TP collection purposes.
Status earned in the new (next) year will be valid until end of April 2026.
How will my current status card expiry date be affected?
BA have confirmed that it will NOT be affected.
i.e. if you have Silver status with a card expiry of 31st December 2025 (having already achieved silver renewal since 8th November 2023) this will not be affected.
If you subsequently drop to Bronze status then this will expire 30th April 2026.
Will I be able to double-dip (use the April 24 - TP collection year end date TPs twice) for Lifetime TPs?
No
Will I be able to double-dip for GUFs etc.?
I don't think we know yet.
If I earn TPs in the Amex TP offer between 1st April and 21st May 2024 (when the offer expires) will these count in the double-dip?
We believe that the answer to this is yes.
Has the 'grace' period for status reduced?
Yes.
Whereas it used to be until the end of the month following your year end (i.e. if you had a year ending 8th October you would be Gold with a card valid until 30th November) everyone will now have a card that is valid until 30th April.
Just under 2 months 'grace' has decreased to just under 1 month.
What about GGL status retention?
BA have confirmed that you must achieve 3000TP, during your SHORTENED/transition year (with the addition of the ‘doubled’ TPs from April 1st 2024) in order to maintain continuous GGL membership. If you fail to do so your GGL status will expire at the date of card expiry from your last 8-8th year (even though this may be as late as 30th April 2026) and you would need to requalify at 5000TPs again.
This has particular implications for those who may be earning a significant number of TPs in February and March 2024 as these will not be counted into the SHORTENED/transition year.
Worked example (crazy8534)?
crazy8534's current status/TP earning year ends 8th June 2024.
He has already renewed GGL status so has a card that will expire with GGL status on 31st July 2025.
He will earn 2000TPs between 1st April 2024 and 8th June 2024.
His TP year will reset on 8th June 2024 and he will have 0TPs.
BA will then add the TPs that he has earned between 1st April 2024 and 8th June 2024 to his current year total (but not his lifetime total), giving him 2000TPs for the year 24/25.
He will need to earn another 1000TPs between 8th June 2024 and 31st March 2025 to renew GGL.
If he renews GGL then his new status will last until 30th April 2026.
If he fails to renew GGL status before 31st March 2025 then it will still last until 31st July 2025 (as per his current card).
He will then fall to either Gold (if earned >1500TPs) or Silver (if earned <1500TPs) until 30th April 2026.
** BA ANNOUNCEMENT : all Tier Point collection years to start 1st April **
Feb 18, 2024, 10:19 pm
#886
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 8,819
It's the soft landing thereafter that's the problem, as that is effectively zero as silver in this scenario. So I think OP will drop to bronze on 1 May 2026.
Feb 19, 2024, 12:33 am
#887
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Surrey
Programs: BAEC - Gold
Posts: 888
Not sure if it means anything, but I raised a complaint about the soft landing curtailment on the day this was announced. I got an email a couple of days ago to say we haven’t forgotten about you. So I remain hopeful of a fair outcome!
Feb 19, 2024, 2:10 am
#888
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: LCYJFKGIG
Programs: BAEC - Gold, OWE
Posts: 159
No, the 1,500 TPs earned from 9 March 2024 will count for his TP year to 8 Mar 2025 and will get him Gold until 30 Apr 2026, 'as normal'.
It's the soft landing thereafter that's the problem, as that is effectively zero as silver in this scenario. So I think OP will drop to bronze on 1 May 2026.
It's the soft landing thereafter that's the problem, as that is effectively zero as silver in this scenario. So I think OP will drop to bronze on 1 May 2026.
Thanks for the help all!
Feb 19, 2024, 2:20 am
#889
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: UK
Programs: Mucci. And BA Gold – previous awards - Gold 11, Silver 7, Bronze 4.
Posts: 4,251
Feb 19, 2024, 4:31 am
#890
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: London, England
Programs: MUCCI -- What else matters?
Posts: 1,096
- Any Tier status you receive during the transition period will expire on 30 April 2026
Feb 19, 2024, 4:39 am
#891
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Scotland & London
Programs: BA GGL, IHG Diamond Ambassador, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Mucci des Salons Ouvrants
Posts: 3,094
- Any Tier status you achieve as part of the transition period (1 April 2024 to 31 March 2025) will expire on 30 April 2026.
aks120
Feb 19, 2024, 4:59 am
#892
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: London, England
Programs: MUCCI -- What else matters?
Posts: 1,096
Thanks for that, most sad but c'est la vie...
Feb 19, 2024, 6:18 am
#893
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 124
I think BA overlooked the fact that there will be a tsunami of people in Apr 26 who will be double downgraded immediately (for Golds with March year end dates) or downgraded twice within a month or two (for those with Jan/Feb year ends) so they really should decide on any ‘easement’ now.
Feb 19, 2024, 6:22 am
#894
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: LON
Programs: Mucci, BAEC, Eurostar
Posts: 3,317
I can’t wait to hear BA’s response to this.
I think BA overlooked the fact that there will be a tsunami of people in Apr 26 who will be double downgraded immediately (for Golds with March year end dates) or downgraded twice within a month or two (for those with Jan/Feb year ends) so they really should decide on any ‘easement’ now.
I think BA overlooked the fact that there will be a tsunami of people in Apr 26 who will be double downgraded immediately (for Golds with March year end dates) or downgraded twice within a month or two (for those with Jan/Feb year ends) so they really should decide on any ‘easement’ now.
Feb 19, 2024, 6:30 am
#895
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 124
Feb 19, 2024, 6:39 am
#896
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC Gold-GGL
Posts: 1,194
I hope the UI on the website (probably a bit of stretch in the app) is updated to show your progress during the transition year to better illustrate where you are and where you're likely to end up.
Feb 19, 2024, 7:10 am
#897
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BHX
Programs: BA GGL CCR GfL, SQ Gold, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond, Marriott Plat, Cafe Nero Loyalty Card (7 Stamps)
Posts: 7,372
Given there appears to be a definite shift towards aligning programmes with AA/IB and neither have a soft landing, I think the writing is on the wall for this policy at BAEC.
Feb 20, 2024, 4:45 pm
#898
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 902
I have just read an article in LoyaltyLobby and the latest BA wording which I think clarifies how the changes will impact on me, though I am still slightly confused. Would be helpful if BA provided a calculator so that you can work with dummy figures.
My current collection period ends 8th January 2025. I expect to earn ~5,500 TPs between 9th January 2024 and 8th January 2025 and ~4000 TPs between 1st April 2024 and 8th January. I anticipate earning ~1,500 TPs between January 9th 2025 and 31st March 2025.
Based on the above am I correct in assuming that I will be GGL for the year starting 1st April 2025 and that I will also start the year with 1,500 TPs and require an additional 1,500 TPs to retain GGL?
My current collection period ends 8th January 2025. I expect to earn ~5,500 TPs between 9th January 2024 and 8th January 2025 and ~4000 TPs between 1st April 2024 and 8th January. I anticipate earning ~1,500 TPs between January 9th 2025 and 31st March 2025.
Based on the above am I correct in assuming that I will be GGL for the year starting 1st April 2025 and that I will also start the year with 1,500 TPs and require an additional 1,500 TPs to retain GGL?
Feb 20, 2024, 5:08 pm
#899
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Krakow
Programs: BAEC Silver, Miles and More(FTL), IHG(Platinum), Accor, HHonors(Diamond), SPG, Hertz Five Star
Posts: 6,055
2 collection years
9 jan 24 to 8 jan 25
1st april 24 to 31 march 25
the 4000tp you earn april 24 to jan 25 will renew status for both collection years, so till end of april 26
Like at the end of collection years till now, at the end of march 25 you tp will reset so , like everyone, you will begin collection year april 1 25 to march 31 26 with 0 TP
9 jan 24 to 8 jan 25
1st april 24 to 31 march 25
the 4000tp you earn april 24 to jan 25 will renew status for both collection years, so till end of april 26
Like at the end of collection years till now, at the end of march 25 you tp will reset so , like everyone, you will begin collection year april 1 25 to march 31 26 with 0 TP
Last edited by scottishpoet; Feb 21, 2024 at 1:34 am