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New T8 lounges have been shown to the press and will open on 1 December.
For access rule: see post 161 - Basically, access follows pre-move BA and AA rules for JFK: FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - BA & AA JFK T8 joint operations to begin Dec 2022
JFK T8 Lounge Map
Greenwich Lounge (former AA Flagship Lounge), above Gate 12: BAEC Silver and Club World
Soho Lounge, above Gates 14-20: BAEC Gold
Chelsea Lounge, above Gates 14-20: BAEC GGL, First
For food and drink,
- Chelsea gets restaurant style food, comprehensive Champagne menu with 14 different Champagne inlcluding Krug, Ruinart, etc, 3 sparkling wines, and cocktail menu as well as a wine table
- Soho gets food that can be ordered with QR codes (as in GF) and a cocktail bar
- Greenwich gets self-service wine table, drinks, and buffet food.
For Chelsea menus for December 2022: see post 181 FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - BA & AA JFK T8 joint operations to begin Dec 2022
Specific lounge threads
There are now lounge specific threads for all three lounges:
Chelsea: British Airways and American Airlines Chelsea Lounge - JFK Terminal 8 - FlyerTalk Forums
Soho: British Airways and American Airlines Soho Lounge - JFK Terminal 8 - FlyerTalk Forums
Greenwich: British Airways and American Airlines Greenwich Lounge - JFK Terminal 8 - FlyerTalk Forums
External resources
Zach Griff (TPG), 29 Nov 2022
For access rule: see post 161 - Basically, access follows pre-move BA and AA rules for JFK: FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - BA & AA JFK T8 joint operations to begin Dec 2022
JFK T8 Lounge Map
Greenwich Lounge (former AA Flagship Lounge), above Gate 12: BAEC Silver and Club World
Soho Lounge, above Gates 14-20: BAEC Gold
Chelsea Lounge, above Gates 14-20: BAEC GGL, First
For food and drink,
- Chelsea gets restaurant style food, comprehensive Champagne menu with 14 different Champagne inlcluding Krug, Ruinart, etc, 3 sparkling wines, and cocktail menu as well as a wine table
- Soho gets food that can be ordered with QR codes (as in GF) and a cocktail bar
- Greenwich gets self-service wine table, drinks, and buffet food.
For Chelsea menus for December 2022: see post 181 FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - BA & AA JFK T8 joint operations to begin Dec 2022
Specific lounge threads
There are now lounge specific threads for all three lounges:
Chelsea: British Airways and American Airlines Chelsea Lounge - JFK Terminal 8 - FlyerTalk Forums
Soho: British Airways and American Airlines Soho Lounge - JFK Terminal 8 - FlyerTalk Forums
Greenwich: British Airways and American Airlines Greenwich Lounge - JFK Terminal 8 - FlyerTalk Forums
External resources
Zach Griff (TPG), 29 Nov 2022
BA & AA JFK T8 joint operations to begin Dec 2022
#47
Join Date: Mar 2010
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Hey Ho - I guess my March trip to/from JFK could be my last through T7 then. I think the move has been telegraphed for a while, so not a great shock, but unfortunately won't be able to say a little goodbye to the JFK CCR which I have really liked over the years. Slumming it in (hopefully) CS this time. Have been travelling through T7 man and boy since 1972 (when it was the BOAC Terminal, shared I think with Air Canada). There were some great staff there too who were really good when it came to IRROPS. They even got me away without fuss when I showed up once with a ticket which should have been from EWR. I shall have good wander around before getting stuck into the pre-flight dining (not holding out much hope for the on-board food judging by other threads). I guess that's the end of the Concorde 'brand' at JFK. Haven't really used T8 too much over the years - a couple of times inbound off AA 101, so will reserve judgement. Having to use a bus to remote stands doesn't sound great though - no doubt BA will insist on some 'premium' busses for their F/J guests (Concorde coaches for F and Prems perhaps?) on what is, after all, their 'Blue Riband' route (and pigs might fly too).
#48
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Bronze
Posts: 1,090
BA seem to be planning to take “enhancements” to the next level by “enhancing” away dedicated British Airways lounges and a uniquely British experience in their most important overseas destination/departure airport.
Co-location at LHR T3 has never meant AA removing their American offering and, while being co-terminus with AA in T8 makes perfect sense, I really feel let down by BA with this planned implementation.
Co-location at LHR T3 has never meant AA removing their American offering and, while being co-terminus with AA in T8 makes perfect sense, I really feel let down by BA with this planned implementation.
#49
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,190
https://simpleflying.com/british-air...terminal-move/
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#50
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For those worrying about Flagship Check-In, do not fear.
I've literally just left JFK but had a long chat.with the staff.
The desks will be moving literally one row over from where they are now, and there will be a separate line which will meander you to the front of TSA Pre.
The staff have been told they're moving in mid February, but that keeps being delayed. The area won't necessarily be as hidden as it currently is, but the desk staff did stress it's obviously just a temporary move.
I've got quite a few trips through JFK over the next month, so it'll be interesting to see if they keep to the timeline.
I'm back through on Saturday, so happy to ask any questions people have.
M
I've literally just left JFK but had a long chat.with the staff.
The desks will be moving literally one row over from where they are now, and there will be a separate line which will meander you to the front of TSA Pre.
The staff have been told they're moving in mid February, but that keeps being delayed. The area won't necessarily be as hidden as it currently is, but the desk staff did stress it's obviously just a temporary move.
I've got quite a few trips through JFK over the next month, so it'll be interesting to see if they keep to the timeline.
I'm back through on Saturday, so happy to ask any questions people have.
M
#51
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Mexico
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all I ever asked of BA when flying on them is to be treated the way AA treats me, and my family when they are with me. BA doesn't do that. I have lots of friends who fly who agree with me, they may not post, but rest assured, we don't fly BA if we can avoid it. BA at JFK in T7 is anti AA flyers, and that has been my experience.
#52
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: UK
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I hold the view that it’s best to not expect rules to be bent to one’s advantage and to be gracious when they are. This attitude generally leads to me being pleasantly surprised and sometimes delighted when a rule is bent to accommodate my situation vs being perpetually peeved off when a rule is enforced.
As to the topic of co-location I am genuinely excited by the prospect. I think it will significantly improve connections and there is a real opportunity for BA/AY/AA/CX/QR to make JFK T8 a really streamlined travelling experience for OneWorld travellers.
#54
Join Date: Oct 2018
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 302
all I ever asked of BA when flying on them is to be treated the way AA treats me, and my family when they are with me. BA doesn't do that. I have lots of friends who fly who agree with me, they may not post, but rest assured, we don't fly BA if we can avoid it. BA at JFK in T7 is anti AA flyers, and that has been my experience.
#55
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all I ever asked of BA when flying on them is to be treated the way AA treats me, and my family when they are with me. BA doesn't do that. I have lots of friends who fly who agree with me, they may not post, but rest assured, we don't fly BA if we can avoid it. BA at JFK in T7 is anti AA flyers, and that has been my experience.
Anyhow how this particular arrangement works remains to be seen. As I always take the morning flight, it should be quiet enough whichever Lounge one is entitled to sit.
Last edited by PUCCI GALORE; Jan 27, 2022 at 9:50 am
#56
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BA seem to be planning to take “enhancements” to the next level by “enhancing” away dedicated British Airways lounges and a uniquely British experience in their most important overseas destination/departure airport.
Co-location at LHR T3 has never meant AA removing their American offering and, while being co-terminus with AA in T8 makes perfect sense, I really feel let down by BA with this planned implementation.
To allude to Robert Brooke - that corner of a foreign airport that is forever England and attributes a unique USP BA offering being lost on this most important route is a sad loss and retrograde step.
Co-location at LHR T3 has never meant AA removing their American offering and, while being co-terminus with AA in T8 makes perfect sense, I really feel let down by BA with this planned implementation.
To allude to Robert Brooke - that corner of a foreign airport that is forever England and attributes a unique USP BA offering being lost on this most important route is a sad loss and retrograde step.
#58
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This cant happen soon enough for me. I like BA and would like to fly BA more but it is a pain when I have a connecting from coming or going out of T8 on AA. I have TSA Pre Check but still too much of a hassle. I look forward to the aggregation of facilities, I think it will be better overall.
#60
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all I ever asked of BA when flying on them is to be treated the way AA treats me, and my family when they are with me. BA doesn't do that. I have lots of friends who fly who agree with me, they may not post, but rest assured, we don't fly BA if we can avoid it. BA at JFK in T7 is anti AA flyers, and that has been my experience.