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New T8 lounges have been shown to the press and will open on 1 December.
For access rule: see post 161 - Basically, access follows pre-move BA and AA rules for JFK: FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - BA & AA JFK T8 joint operations to begin Dec 2022
JFK T8 Lounge Map
Greenwich Lounge (former AA Flagship Lounge), above Gate 12: BAEC Silver and Club World
Soho Lounge, above Gates 14-20: BAEC Gold
Chelsea Lounge, above Gates 14-20: BAEC GGL, First
For food and drink,
- Chelsea gets restaurant style food, comprehensive Champagne menu with 14 different Champagne inlcluding Krug, Ruinart, etc, 3 sparkling wines, and cocktail menu as well as a wine table
- Soho gets food that can be ordered with QR codes (as in GF) and a cocktail bar
- Greenwich gets self-service wine table, drinks, and buffet food.
For Chelsea menus for December 2022: see post 181 FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - BA & AA JFK T8 joint operations to begin Dec 2022
Specific lounge threads
There are now lounge specific threads for all three lounges:
Chelsea: British Airways and American Airlines Chelsea Lounge - JFK Terminal 8 - FlyerTalk Forums
Soho: British Airways and American Airlines Soho Lounge - JFK Terminal 8 - FlyerTalk Forums
Greenwich: British Airways and American Airlines Greenwich Lounge - JFK Terminal 8 - FlyerTalk Forums
External resources
Zach Griff (TPG), 29 Nov 2022
For access rule: see post 161 - Basically, access follows pre-move BA and AA rules for JFK: FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - BA & AA JFK T8 joint operations to begin Dec 2022
JFK T8 Lounge Map
Greenwich Lounge (former AA Flagship Lounge), above Gate 12: BAEC Silver and Club World
Soho Lounge, above Gates 14-20: BAEC Gold
Chelsea Lounge, above Gates 14-20: BAEC GGL, First
For food and drink,
- Chelsea gets restaurant style food, comprehensive Champagne menu with 14 different Champagne inlcluding Krug, Ruinart, etc, 3 sparkling wines, and cocktail menu as well as a wine table
- Soho gets food that can be ordered with QR codes (as in GF) and a cocktail bar
- Greenwich gets self-service wine table, drinks, and buffet food.
For Chelsea menus for December 2022: see post 181 FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - BA & AA JFK T8 joint operations to begin Dec 2022
Specific lounge threads
There are now lounge specific threads for all three lounges:
Chelsea: British Airways and American Airlines Chelsea Lounge - JFK Terminal 8 - FlyerTalk Forums
Soho: British Airways and American Airlines Soho Lounge - JFK Terminal 8 - FlyerTalk Forums
Greenwich: British Airways and American Airlines Greenwich Lounge - JFK Terminal 8 - FlyerTalk Forums
External resources
Zach Griff (TPG), 29 Nov 2022
BA & AA JFK T8 joint operations to begin Dec 2022
#61
Join Date: Mar 2011
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T8's Pre hours are very inconsistent. I'm hoping they'll be timed well for London flights, but I haven't been able to count on Pre being open at T8 in the way that I can, say, in T4 or T5.
#63
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Lincolnshire, UK
Programs: BA GGL - maybe only briefly!
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I am not filled with confidence that the new 'most exclusive lounge' will be like the CCR. Is it more likely to be like current FF dining or Concorde dining - ie F only?
#64
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 833
all I ever asked of BA when flying on them is to be treated the way AA treats me, and my family when they are with me. BA doesn't do that. I have lots of friends who fly who agree with me, they may not post, but rest assured, we don't fly BA if we can avoid it. BA at JFK in T7 is anti AA flyers, and that has been my experience.
Edit: All I ask is that AA treats me according to their commitment as part of the Oneworld alliance. And from my experience, they do.
Last edited by zen100; Jan 26, 2022 at 6:37 am
#65
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#67
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BA seem to be planning to take “enhancements” to the next level by “enhancing” away dedicated British Airways lounges and a uniquely British experience in their most important overseas destination/departure airport. Co-location at LHR T3 has never meant AA removing their American offering… that corner of a foreign airport that is forever England and attributes a unique USP BA offering being lost on this most important route is a sad loss and retrograde step.
#68
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NYC/London
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JFK Terminal 7 is one of the last things to remain from when I started by BA flying career in the 1990s. Coming in last week though we were stuck on the plane as the jet bridge was having mechanical issues, after 30mins of trying, the plane was backed out to another gate. Apart from the investment in lounges of the past couple of years terminal 7 itself feels dated. Having used Terminal 8 quite a lot since it opened I do appreciate the more modern, open feel although remote stands does not sound appealing.
As an aside, when arriving at T7 in the late 90s (and maybe beyond) there used to be a large poster of Concorde on one of the walls with "2hrs 59mins" underneath it. Does anyone know if a print of that photo is available?
As an aside, when arriving at T7 in the late 90s (and maybe beyond) there used to be a large poster of Concorde on one of the walls with "2hrs 59mins" underneath it. Does anyone know if a print of that photo is available?
#69
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#70
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So two stands with jetty and 3 remotes vs, what, 12 on-pier with T7? Are AA/whoever does stand management in T8 going to give access to BA to "their" stands or will BA lose quite a large number of stands for their services?
#71
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I think the context is also that AA are reducing routes from JFK as they are de-prioritising it as a hub. So yes on the surface it looks pretty rubbish and that many BA flights will now be remote - but it may not quite be that bad.
I can't see why BA wouldn't be able to use quite a few of the other contact stands on the main T8 building as there are often A350/777 parked up on several of them, but perhaps BA will want to keep their flights around a certain set of gates which are nominally for their use.
I can't see why BA wouldn't be able to use quite a few of the other contact stands on the main T8 building as there are often A350/777 parked up on several of them, but perhaps BA will want to keep their flights around a certain set of gates which are nominally for their use.
#72
Join Date: May 2014
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I think the context is also that AA are reducing routes from JFK as they are de-prioritising it as a hub. So yes on the surface it looks pretty rubbish and that many BA flights will now be remote - but it may not quite be that bad.
I can't see why BA wouldn't be able to use quite a few of the other contact stands on the main T8 building as there are often A350/777 parked up on several of them, but perhaps BA will want to keep their flights around a certain set of gates which are nominally for their use.
I can't see why BA wouldn't be able to use quite a few of the other contact stands on the main T8 building as there are often A350/777 parked up on several of them, but perhaps BA will want to keep their flights around a certain set of gates which are nominally for their use.
Anyway, it'll be weird not seeing T7 anymore but I can't say that I'll miss it. Especially "downstairs". It had some seriously rickety bag room with a screening system that just wouldn't fly in Europe. Oh, and I saw the biggest rat of my life in there. Could've harnessed it and use it in lieu of the little tugs that push baggage carts around.
#73
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As I understand it, they do not eat cake as they prefer Brioche, and that will only be served in the J lounge...
I do wonder which set of rules will be applied to the lounges, AA or BA, or some hybrid that will confuse all and sundry!.
I do wonder which set of rules will be applied to the lounges, AA or BA, or some hybrid that will confuse all and sundry!.
#74
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#75
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I agree, however in some places in America some gates are, as I understand it, 'reserved' for use by specific airlines and you shall not go there or mayhem will ensue. Don't know if JFK is the same, though T8 is AA's own so they might do whatever they want with it (I guess).