Nov 30, 2022, 12:12 pm
Last edit by: orbitmic
New T8 lounges have been shown to the press and will open on 1 December.
For access rule: see post 161 - Basically, access follows pre-move BA and AA rules for JFK: FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - BA & AA JFK T8 joint operations to begin Dec 2022
JFK T8 Lounge Map
Greenwich Lounge (former AA Flagship Lounge), above Gate 12: BAEC Silver and Club World
Soho Lounge, above Gates 14-20: BAEC Gold
Chelsea Lounge, above Gates 14-20: BAEC GGL, First
For food and drink,
- Chelsea gets restaurant style food, comprehensive Champagne menu with 14 different Champagne inlcluding Krug, Ruinart, etc, 3 sparkling wines, and cocktail menu as well as a wine table
- Soho gets food that can be ordered with QR codes (as in GF) and a cocktail bar
- Greenwich gets self-service wine table, drinks, and buffet food.
For Chelsea menus for December 2022: see post 181 FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - BA & AA JFK T8 joint operations to begin Dec 2022
Specific lounge threads
There are now lounge specific threads for all three lounges:
Chelsea: British Airways and American Airlines Chelsea Lounge - JFK Terminal 8 - FlyerTalk Forums
Soho: British Airways and American Airlines Soho Lounge - JFK Terminal 8 - FlyerTalk Forums
Greenwich: British Airways and American Airlines Greenwich Lounge - JFK Terminal 8 - FlyerTalk Forums
External resources
Zach Griff (TPG), 29 Nov 2022
For access rule: see post 161 - Basically, access follows pre-move BA and AA rules for JFK: FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - BA & AA JFK T8 joint operations to begin Dec 2022
JFK T8 Lounge Map
Greenwich Lounge (former AA Flagship Lounge), above Gate 12: BAEC Silver and Club WorldSoho Lounge, above Gates 14-20: BAEC Gold
Chelsea Lounge, above Gates 14-20: BAEC GGL, First
For food and drink,
- Chelsea gets restaurant style food, comprehensive Champagne menu with 14 different Champagne inlcluding Krug, Ruinart, etc, 3 sparkling wines, and cocktail menu as well as a wine table
- Soho gets food that can be ordered with QR codes (as in GF) and a cocktail bar
- Greenwich gets self-service wine table, drinks, and buffet food.
For Chelsea menus for December 2022: see post 181 FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - BA & AA JFK T8 joint operations to begin Dec 2022
Specific lounge threads
There are now lounge specific threads for all three lounges:
Chelsea: British Airways and American Airlines Chelsea Lounge - JFK Terminal 8 - FlyerTalk Forums
Soho: British Airways and American Airlines Soho Lounge - JFK Terminal 8 - FlyerTalk Forums
Greenwich: British Airways and American Airlines Greenwich Lounge - JFK Terminal 8 - FlyerTalk Forums
External resources
Zach Griff (TPG), 29 Nov 2022
BA & AA JFK T8 joint operations to begin Dec 2022
Jan 25, 2022, 8:56 am
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My understanding is the ‘most exclusive lounge’ will be the equivalent of the CCR, the ‘premium lounge’ will be the equivalent of the First lounge, and the ‘contiguous lounge’ will be the equivalent of the Club lounge.
There will still be three classes of lounge, albeit shared by AA equivalents.
There will still be three classes of lounge, albeit shared by AA equivalents.
I did see reference to AA retaining an AC in T8. So perhaps that will remain for AA domestic pax, and the new ‘Club’ lounge will be a genuine international J lounge.
Jan 25, 2022, 8:57 am
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- The most exclusive lounge will have an all-new champagne bar, fireside lounge and a la carte dining room, which reimagines American’s Flagship First Dining into a fully immersive experience.
- Adjacent, another premium lounge — with sweeping airside views, a wine bar, cocktail lounge, library and buffet — will offer an elevated, lively experience.
The second description could indeed fit that which I have heard about the Mile High Club.
Igenue I may be but this cannot be just hyperbolic blather surely?
Jan 25, 2022, 8:59 am
#19
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Does the First Experience mean immersive as in seeming to surround the audience, player, so that one feel completely involved in? How does one feel completely involved in a La-Di-Da (as my old Mum would put it) Lounge? It sounds slightly sensual.
The second description could indeed fit that which I have heard about the Mile High Club.
Igenue I may be but this cannot be just hyperbolic blather surely?
The second description could indeed fit that which I have heard about the Mile High Club.
Igenue I may be but this cannot be just hyperbolic blather surely?
Jan 25, 2022, 9:01 am
#20
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Maybe we get proper TSA Pre benefits at T8. At T7(at least in 2019, we still had to remove laptops etc. given how they handled TSA Pre and the small priority security line didn't have it at all)
Jan 25, 2022, 9:05 am
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Enhancements!
BA seem to be planning to take “enhancements” to the next level by “enhancing” away dedicated British Airways lounges and a uniquely British experience in their most important overseas destination/departure airport.
Co-location at LHR T3 has never meant AA removing their American offering and, while being co-terminus with AA in T8 makes perfect sense, I really feel let down by BA with this planned implementation.
To allude to Robert Brooke - that corner of a foreign airport that is forever England and attributes a unique USP BA offering being lost on this most important route is a sad loss and retrograde step.
Co-location at LHR T3 has never meant AA removing their American offering and, while being co-terminus with AA in T8 makes perfect sense, I really feel let down by BA with this planned implementation.
To allude to Robert Brooke - that corner of a foreign airport that is forever England and attributes a unique USP BA offering being lost on this most important route is a sad loss and retrograde step.
Jan 25, 2022, 9:09 am
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Oh Thank You Sugar. I was afraid that I might have to surmount a writhing mass of men. Well, I wasn't really afraid as I quite like challenges. Now you put at rest my mind that I shall be among equals rather than the Great Unwashed outside. Next you will doubtless tell me why they do not eat cake.
Jan 25, 2022, 9:14 am
#23
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Considering a lot of the "British" experience with BA these days is nothing to be proud of, I'm looking forward to this.
I've been flying AA from JFK recently as I prefer the T8 experience.
Hopefully I'll be GGL later this year, so will get to experience everything during a pre-Xmas trip.
Is the terminal actually big enough to add BA planes on top of AA's own? What of any partners? Would mention CX, but not sure of their situation.
I've been flying AA from JFK recently as I prefer the T8 experience.
Hopefully I'll be GGL later this year, so will get to experience everything during a pre-Xmas trip.
Is the terminal actually big enough to add BA planes on top of AA's own? What of any partners? Would mention CX, but not sure of their situation.
Jan 25, 2022, 9:18 am
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In contrast, the Flagship Lounge in Miami was pretty good.
Jan 25, 2022, 9:25 am
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There will be 2 new contact stands added at the end of the current terminal, plus 3 remote stands for BA to bus passengers to.
Jan 25, 2022, 9:34 am
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well this is certainly exciting. and i am surprised how the renderings are very much in the BA style language more than the AA style language.
all this lounge language does make it seem we will have three options with the highest being similar to CCR with a standard flagship style lounge and of course then normal AC left alone in terminal C -- and i gather they will use all the lounge space upstairs in the area with the current flagship lounge?
what im stressed by is the temporary closure of flagship first check in as the exit door is direct to the TSA pre check agents which is the best feature of that checkin!
all this lounge language does make it seem we will have three options with the highest being similar to CCR with a standard flagship style lounge and of course then normal AC left alone in terminal C -- and i gather they will use all the lounge space upstairs in the area with the current flagship lounge?
what im stressed by is the temporary closure of flagship first check in as the exit door is direct to the TSA pre check agents which is the best feature of that checkin!
Jan 25, 2022, 9:36 am
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I wonder if the "most exclusive" lounge will be called the Premier Lounge? Just a thought from this thread: Flagship Business Plus??? - FlyerTalk Forums
Jan 25, 2022, 9:40 am
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Travelling next December is certainly going to be exciting. I for one am going to watch from a distance to see what BA have learnt from their opening of T5.