Denied boarding, tricky one
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Again, that's largely down to my own misunderstanding about B2B (not) being transit, otherwise that was a reasonable option, and one I took in March this year.
#124
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Indeed, the original check in agent had already spoken to me while I was waiting that she was going off to the gate and they'd try to get me on the next flight: I was about to get up and mention to her that I was 5 minutes away from T5 security compliance limit. About fifteen minutes later, her colleague gave me the news I was, by this time, half expecting. So yes, too late for any voucher, but I wouldn't have known that anyway. As mentioned I asked him to make notes on the booking addressing the situation, and I walked over to a BA rep to ask them to do a similar thing. Not that it made any difference.
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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Not to mention the obvious and morally questionable issue that I really would be operating in bad faith by doing that, and it would be obvious to the check in staff too. I wouldn't want to deliberately put someone in that situation.
#126
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Sadly your hostile response is exactly why there will likely be likely be laws instituted that are incredibly hostile to the frequent flyer community, and restricting flying. This lack of recognition both of environmental as well as
corona impacts is going to have an exceptionally strong counter-response in the post-Covid world where it has become apparent travel for meeting is less essential than first thought.
If you want to keep free travel at your whim you need to recognise and at least appear to respond to such concerns.
#127
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I did not. My question was partially rhetorical. Another part was I really wanted to see how exactly this was a EC261 in case I was wrong.
I standby with my comments.
While it seems it is moot for now, OP made a mistake. No big deal. The problem is OP claimed a complaint would be filed (which I doubt it is the case now).
CS is about serving customers better. There is always a bottom line for CS, as you can't simply accommodate everyone.
While I agree that many people are usually banned for life due to major incidents, it does not preclude an airline to "give up" a passenger on CS issue. In fact, this had happened before.
I standby with my comments.
While it seems it is moot for now, OP made a mistake. No big deal. The problem is OP claimed a complaint would be filed (which I doubt it is the case now).
CS is about serving customers better. There is always a bottom line for CS, as you can't simply accommodate everyone.
While I agree that many people are usually banned for life due to major incidents, it does not preclude an airline to "give up" a passenger on CS issue. In fact, this had happened before.
as an aside I have no doubt the airlines get some really rubbish/inappropriate complaints...
#128
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I did not. My question was partially rhetorical. Another part was I really wanted to see how exactly this was a EC261 in case I was wrong.
I standby with my comments.
While it seems it is moot for now, OP made a mistake. No big deal. The problem is OP claimed a complaint would be filed (which I doubt it is the case now).
CS is about serving customers better. There is always a bottom line for CS, as you can't simply accommodate everyone.
While I agree that many people are usually banned for life due to major incidents, it does not preclude an airline to "give up" a passenger on CS issue. In fact, this had happened before.
I standby with my comments.
While it seems it is moot for now, OP made a mistake. No big deal. The problem is OP claimed a complaint would be filed (which I doubt it is the case now).
CS is about serving customers better. There is always a bottom line for CS, as you can't simply accommodate everyone.
While I agree that many people are usually banned for life due to major incidents, it does not preclude an airline to "give up" a passenger on CS issue. In fact, this had happened before.
Plenty of people complain about care in hospitals. Some are legitimate, others ridiculous. However, none are banned.
#130
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HowardLong, hope you get the Avios back. I would be writing an e-mail to BA explaining the situation, that you made a misjudgement and whether there was any possibility of some discretion in getting the Avios reinstated.
Good luck!
Good luck!
#131
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I did not. My question was partially rhetorical. Another part was I really wanted to see how exactly this was a EC261 in case I was wrong.
I standby with my comments.
While it seems it is moot for now, OP made a mistake. No big deal. The problem is OP claimed a complaint would be filed (which I doubt it is the case now).
CS is about serving customers better. There is always a bottom line for CS, as you can't simply accommodate everyone.
While I agree that many people are usually banned for life due to major incidents, it does not preclude an airline to "give up" a passenger on CS issue. In fact, this had happened before.
I standby with my comments.
While it seems it is moot for now, OP made a mistake. No big deal. The problem is OP claimed a complaint would be filed (which I doubt it is the case now).
CS is about serving customers better. There is always a bottom line for CS, as you can't simply accommodate everyone.
While I agree that many people are usually banned for life due to major incidents, it does not preclude an airline to "give up" a passenger on CS issue. In fact, this had happened before.
#132
This is a forum and that is exactly what you get: opinion. As this pandemic has shown you, governments are prepared to torpedo economies far more than the QALY cost of lives saved are worth. This is not simply an economics equation. This is politics: politicians aren’t prepared to let people literally die on the streets because there aren’t enough hospital beds.
Sadly your hostile response is exactly why there will likely be likely be laws instituted that are incredibly hostile to the frequent flyer community, and restricting flying. This lack of recognition both of environmental as well as
corona impacts is going to have an exceptionally strong counter-response in the post-Covid world where it has become apparent travel for meeting is less essential than first thought.
If you want to keep free travel at your whim you need to recognise and at least appear to respond to such concerns.
Sadly your hostile response is exactly why there will likely be likely be laws instituted that are incredibly hostile to the frequent flyer community, and restricting flying. This lack of recognition both of environmental as well as
corona impacts is going to have an exceptionally strong counter-response in the post-Covid world where it has become apparent travel for meeting is less essential than first thought.
If you want to keep free travel at your whim you need to recognise and at least appear to respond to such concerns.
#133
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The destination of the ticket would still be Doha and v likely that the requirements to arrive in Doha would have been enforced. Having a separate ticket does not turn it into a transit
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There were reports on the QR board that people were able to transit at DOH with two separate tickets post-COVID.
#135
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Having the returned flight booked from DOH-LHR scheduled to depart at a time where it would be impossible to catch , combined with already having indicated an intent to travel on that flight - I would be surprised if the staff allowed something so obvious an attempt to circumvent the country's requirements