GGL/CCR July/Aug/Sept Renewals - I need your help
#16
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Philly
Programs: AA, BA, NH, TP
Posts: 742
With GGL I see the Jokers are worth while but with reduced business travel for the foreseeable future there will be plenty of redemption availability, That’s if you chose to fly BA with its current dreadful in flight offering. Cost cutting is in our DNA.
The Gold and Silver Partner card is a benefit but I struggle to find people who need them as they have their own status already.
There are only 2 CCRs for departures - both are currently closed I believe and we now have the Concorde Terrace. I hardly think all of this is worth the effort to resolve especially during (I hope) a once in a life time pandemic.
YMMV.
#17
Join Date: Apr 2018
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 7
#18
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Cheshire
Programs: BA, Accor, Hilton, ITA
Posts: 376
I too think this is a bit premature. You’ve been given a 25% lower threshold, so even for July TP end, and assuming average TP earnings across this reduced threshold, BA have basically given you the opportunity to retain GGL by flying just 9 months instead of 12. That’s well into October before you need to earn TPS. I just don’t see why this is imperative at this moment in time. You’re currently GGL till the end of August 2021.
#19
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL & CCR, GFL
Posts: 495
In terms of the vouchers, those who fell short of a GUF2 of GUF1x2 were offered the lower threshold for them, yet not those who should have hit over 5,000 TPs like Wozza2404 .
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#21
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Mexico
Programs: BAEC Gold / Marriott Platinum
Posts: 3,547
Hope your Mex trip isn't any time soon. It's chaos here right now and virus out of control. Cancun and many resorts resorting to dry law, and now in Acapulco and other resorts we have vigilante groups with ak47s policing social distancing, going to people's houses and breaking them up
#22
Hope your Mex trip isn't any time soon. It's chaos here right now and virus out of control. Cancun and many resorts resorting to dry law, and now in Acapulco and other resorts we have vigilante groups with ak47s policing social distancing, going to people's houses and breaking them up
#23
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Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: London
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With unfixed renewal dates BA's rolling response to COVID will leave pockets of members in limbo until the next extension, when a fresh group will feel aggrieved.
So I get the exasperation of Watersideman: faced with an existential threat, he is being asked to rearrange the deckchairs.
#24
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#25
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#26
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: LHR / LAS
Programs: BA GfL, GGL/CCR
Posts: 2,409
I got a year extra and wasnt really affected, yet , in terms of TP, by the covid situation. I am a June.
#27
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#28
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: London, ARN, HEL, ..... or MAN
Programs: BA GGL / GFL, Mucci Diamond!, HH Diamond, Radisson Premium, IHG Gold, Hertz Gold
Posts: 5,903
The situation for GGLs is slightly different in that, whether earning 0 TPs or 10,000 TPs in the last year, there is no opportunity for some of us (especially July, Aug, Sept) to get any "extension", despite BA's email. For all other tiers, there is an opportunity to upgrade a tier or more, which could trigger a fresh extension. Also, if it's not possible to renew in the next 11 months (I'm still on 0TPs for example), then it's quite a stretch back to 5000TPs to re-qualify as GGL, once the year of lower thresholds has ended, especially when many members still won't need to be earning any TPs at all.
#29
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: BA, Hilton
Posts: 2,091
I am close to earning a Gold Upgrade Voucher. Does the 25% Tier Point reduction apply to earning vouchers or other membership benefits?
We’ve decreased the amount of Tier Points needed by 25% to make it easier for members to retain or upgrade their membership. This reduced Tier Point requirement doesn’t apply to earning Gold Upgrade Vouchers or other membership benefits
We’ve decreased the amount of Tier Points needed by 25% to make it easier for members to retain or upgrade their membership. This reduced Tier Point requirement doesn’t apply to earning Gold Upgrade Vouchers or other membership benefits
#30
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BHX
Programs: BA GGL CCR GfL, SQ Gold, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond, Marriott Plat, Cafe Nero Loyalty Card (7 Stamps)
Posts: 7,330
Regarding the vouchers, it’s case by case but if you had actual booked flights on BA that were cancelled that would have taken you over, these have been granted for some.
For me, most of my travel is booked 2-12 weeks in advance, so I finished flying in March on 5000+ TPs with 5-and-a-bit months left on my year but a fairly minimal amount of bookings. Now, it wouldn’t be too hard to see that someone with 5k points in 6 months whose account clearly shows bookings are made fairly last minute would very likely have hit the next milestones (and with the original 35% reduction I already had hit the 6k and 7k, and with 25% reduction I was very close to the 7k). But I was told I wouldn’t be getting these benefits.
So someone with a June renewal who only managed 3500TPs from June 19-June20 now has that CCR card and all associated GGL benefits until July 2022 because of the extension. But someone like me who cleared the full 5k normal threshold but has an August renewal gets no extension (as I’d already renewed for 20/21 the ‘normal’ way) and is also told there is no leeway being given with the extra vouchers.
So yes, I feel like we have been significantly overlooked here. To the point where I’m now pretty much sold on the fact there is little reason for me to put any more than 3k TPs through BA a year (2400 at the reduced thresholds) going forward - and I need to go and explore some other airlines in more detail. I realise that’s the standard “stamping my feet shouting ‘I’M NOT PLAYING ANYMORE’” response we see so often here, but in this case it’s exactly what I’m doing.
What would the cost have been to BA to give me the additional Joker and 2 x GUF1 vouchers I was asking for (and at the reduced thresholds would have triggered)? Well, if I stick to my 3k plan then on a standard 5k year they’ve lost 40% of my TP flights - on bigger years, a lot more. Doesn’t make much sense to me, but *shrug*
On a side note - for the poster asking about the benefits of GGL, the non-published perks are worth a lot more than the published ones.
For me, most of my travel is booked 2-12 weeks in advance, so I finished flying in March on 5000+ TPs with 5-and-a-bit months left on my year but a fairly minimal amount of bookings. Now, it wouldn’t be too hard to see that someone with 5k points in 6 months whose account clearly shows bookings are made fairly last minute would very likely have hit the next milestones (and with the original 35% reduction I already had hit the 6k and 7k, and with 25% reduction I was very close to the 7k). But I was told I wouldn’t be getting these benefits.
So someone with a June renewal who only managed 3500TPs from June 19-June20 now has that CCR card and all associated GGL benefits until July 2022 because of the extension. But someone like me who cleared the full 5k normal threshold but has an August renewal gets no extension (as I’d already renewed for 20/21 the ‘normal’ way) and is also told there is no leeway being given with the extra vouchers.
So yes, I feel like we have been significantly overlooked here. To the point where I’m now pretty much sold on the fact there is little reason for me to put any more than 3k TPs through BA a year (2400 at the reduced thresholds) going forward - and I need to go and explore some other airlines in more detail. I realise that’s the standard “stamping my feet shouting ‘I’M NOT PLAYING ANYMORE’” response we see so often here, but in this case it’s exactly what I’m doing.
What would the cost have been to BA to give me the additional Joker and 2 x GUF1 vouchers I was asking for (and at the reduced thresholds would have triggered)? Well, if I stick to my 3k plan then on a standard 5k year they’ve lost 40% of my TP flights - on bigger years, a lot more. Doesn’t make much sense to me, but *shrug*
On a side note - for the poster asking about the benefits of GGL, the non-published perks are worth a lot more than the published ones.