May 25, 2020, 8:55 am
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British Airways fleet: New aircraft deliveries, retrofits, and retirements
In the past few years BA has had a large fleet renewal programme. The new aircraft enabled BA to retire the B737, B747 and B767 fleets, along with the B777-200 (non-ER) fleet. Retirement of selected A319 aircraft is currently in progress. The A318 fleet has also been retired, without replacement. At BACF the E170 has been retired in favour of the E190.
This Wiki has been divided into:
Projected Fleet
This renewal programme, which is being complemented with a cabin refresh for some of the older aircraft, is expected to see the following fleet numbers over the next few years:
Heathrow Fleet and Gatwick Fleet
Shorthaul
• A319: 29 currently in fleet
• A320ceo: 65 currently in fleet
• A320neo: 33 (20 currently in fleet)
• A321ceo: 11 (12 currently in fleet)
• A321neo: 20 (14 currently in fleet)
Midhaul
• A321: 1 (Flagged for disposal)
Longhaul
• A350-1000: 18 (18 currently in fleet)
• A380-800: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B777-200ER: 43 (43 currently in fleet)
• B777-300ER: 16 (16 currently in fleet)
• B777-9: 18 (0 currently in fleet)
• B787-8: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B787-9: 18 (18 currently in fleet)
• B787-10: 18 (7 currently in fleet)
London City Fleet
Shorthaul
• E190: 20 (20 currently in fleet)
New Arrivals
Airbus A320ceo:
Ten A320ceos were delivered between June 2013 and October 2014, based at LHR. Ten second hand A320ceos were delivered to LGW between December 2014 and August 2016. Details are archived here.
Airbus A320neo:
35 A320neo family aircraft (25 A320s and 10 A321s) were ordered to replace 21 of the older A319 and A320ceos and add extra capacity. Deliveries started in 2018. In May 2019 three A320neos were converted to A321neo bringing the split to 22 A320s and 13 A321s. Since then more have been added as aircraft ordered via IAG have been added to their various airlines’ fleets.
G-TTNA - Delivered on 10 Apr 2018
G-TTNB - Delivered on 25 Apr 2018
G-TTNC - Delivered on 07 Jun 2018
G-TTND - Delivered on 26 Jul 2018
G-TTNE - Delivered on 21 Sep 2018
G-TTNF - Delivered on 27 Oct 2018
G-TTNG - Delivered on 29 Nov 2018
G-TTNH - Delivered on 17 Jan 2019
G-TTNI - Delivered on 20 Feb 2019
G-TTNJ - Delivered on 28 Feb 2019
G-TTNK - Delivered on 27 Feb 2020
G-TTNL - Delivered on 09 Mar 2020
G-TTNM - Delivered on 11 Dec 2020
G-TTNN - Delivered on 10 Sept 2021
G-TTNO - Delivered on 06 Mar 2021
G-TTNP - Delivered on 10 Nov 2021
G-TTNR - Delivered on 07 Aug 2021
G-TTNS - Delivered on 01 Oct 2022
G-TTNT - Delivered on 28 Oct 2022
G-TTNU - Delivered on 22 Apr 2023
G-TTNV - Undergoing pre-flight preparation
G-TTNW - Due May 2024
G-TTNX - Due Jun 2024
G-TTNY - Due Jun 2024
G-TTNZ - Due Jun 2024
G-TTSA - Due Jul 2025
G-TTSB -
G-TTSC -
G-TTSD -
G-TTSE -
G-TTSF -
G-TTSG -
G-TTSH -
Airbus A321neo:
G-NEOP - Delivered on 27 Mar 2019
G-NEOR - Delivered on 23 Nov 2018
G-NEOS - Delivered on 29 Jan 2019
G-NEOT - Delivered on 01 Mar 2019
G-NEOU - Delivered on 10 May 2019
G-NEOV - Delivered on 30 Aug 2019
G-NEOW - Delivered on 25 Oct 2019
G-NEOX - Delivered on 23 Dec 2019
G-NEOY - Delivered on 15 Jun 2020
G-NEOZ - Delivered on 17 Mar 2020
G-TNEA - Delivered on 25 Oct 2023
G-TNEB - Delivered on 21 Dec 2023
G-TNEC - Delivered on 09 Dec 2023
G-TNED - Delivered on 26 Apr 2024
G-TNEE - Due Jun 2024
G-TNEF - Due Mar 2025
G-TNEG - Due Mar 2025
G-TNEH - Due 2025
G-TNEI - Due 2025
G-TNEJ - Due 2025
Airbus A350-1000:
BA ordered 18 A350-1000s, originally for delivery between 2019 and 2022. These are all based at LHR, being delivered as a 3-class 56J/56W/219Y configuration.
G-XWBA - Delivered on 27 Jul 2019
G-XWBB - Delivered on 19 Sep 2019
G-XWBC - Delivered on 26 Nov 2019
G-XWBD - Delivered on 23 Dec 2019
G-XWBE - Delivered on 12 Feb 2020
G-XWBF - Delivered on 20 May 2020
G-XWBG - Delivered on 02 Oct 2020
G-XWBH - Delivered on 14 Dec 2020
G-XWBI - Delivered on 26 Mar 2022
G-XWBJ - Delivered on 01 Mar 2022
G-XWBK - Delivered on 10 Mar 2022
G-XWBL - Delivered on 29 Apr 2022
G-XWBM - Delivered on 27 Aug 2022
G-XWBN - Delivered on 10 Jun 2023
G-XWBO - Delivered on 19 Jul 2023
G-XWBP - Delivered on 19 Aug 2023
G-XWBR - Delivered on 16 Dec 2023
G-XWBS - Delivered on 21 Feb 2024
Airbus A380-800:
Twelve A380s were delivered between July 2013 and June 2016 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 777-300ER:
Six 777-300ERs were delivered between September 2013 and August 2014 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here. A further three were ordered in November 2018, and a fourth in December 2018.
G-STBM - Delivered on 02 Oct 2020
G-STBN - Delivered on 06 Nov 2020
G-STBO - Delivered on 07 Jan 2021
G-STBP - Delivered on 09 Jan 2021
Boeing 777-9:
In February 2019 BA announced an order for 18 Boeing 777-9 aircraft plus 24 options which will be powered by General Electric GE9X engines. Each aircraft will be fitted with 325 seats in a 4-class, 8F/65J/46W/206Y configuration.
Six aircraft are expected "at the back end of 2026" with the remaining twelve due by the end of 2028. This will result in the older 777s being retired.
Boeing 787-8:
Twelve 787-8s were delivered between June 2013 and November 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 787-9:
Eighteen 787-9s were delivered between September 2015 and June 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 787-10:
BA ordered twelve 787-10s with deliveries starting in 2020: A further six were ordered in 2023 for delivery in 2025-2026. Each aircraft is fitted with 256 seats in a 4 class 8F/48J/35W/165Y configuration.
G-ZBLA - Delivered on 28 Jun 2020
G-ZBLB - Delivered on 01 Jul 2020
G-ZBLC - Delivered on 16 Dec 2022
G-ZBLD - Delivered on 09 Apr 2023
G-ZBLE - Delivered on 26 May 2023
G-ZBLF - Delivered on 17 Sep 2022
G-ZBLG - Delivered on 30 Dec 2022
G-ZBLH - Undergoing pre-flight preparation
G-ZBLI - In final assembly
G-ZBLJ - Due to enter final assembly line end of Apr 2024
G-ZBLK - Due June 2024 (LN 1204)
G-ZBLL - Due August 2024 (LN 1214)
G-ZBLM - Due 2025
G-ZBLN - Due 2025 or 2026
G-ZBLO - Due 2025 or 2026
G-ZBLP - Due 2025 or 2026
G-ZBLR - Due 2025 or 2026
G-ZBLS - Due 2026
Embraer 190:
Three new Embraer 190s were delivered in May 2014 and September 2014. Details are archived here. Thirteen second hand aircraft have since been sourced.
G-LCYV - Delivered on 19 Dec 2015
G-LCYW - Delivered on 25 May 2016
G-LCYZ - Delivered on 17 May 2018
G-LCAA - Delivered on 23 May 2019
G-LCAB - Delivered on 21 July 2019
G-LCAC - Delivered on 21 Aug 2020
G-LCAD - Delivered on 16 Oct 2020
G-LCAE - Delivered on 23 Oct 2020
G-LCAF - Delivered on 11 Dec 2020
G-LCAG - Delivered on 22 May 2021
G-LCAH - Delivered on 10 Sep 2021
Retrofits
A320ceo:
All 51 A320ceo aircraft currently based at LHR have now been reconfigured from CY168 to CY180. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE (unlike the A320neo aircraft), although they no longer feature overhead screens.
5 ex-British Midland International A320ceo aircraft based at LHR/LGW have been reconfigured from CY168 to CY180. These feature the ex-BD cabin in CE (refurbished in 2012) and the slimline Recaro seats in ET.
10 second hand A320ceo aircraft in a CY177 configuration (with Pinnacle cabin fitted on delivery to BA) currently based at LGW are not scheduled for reconfiguration or refurbishment. These aircraft feature tables in CE, but do not feature overhead screens.
A321ceo:
All 14 shorthaul A321ceo aircraft have now been reconfigured from CY205 to CY218. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE (unlike the A321neo aircraft), although they no longer feature overhead screens.
E190SR:
All 20 Embraer E190SR to be densified from CY98 to CY106 and become E190LR, with new slimline seats featuring device holders. First aircraft due May 2024, last due August 2024.
Boeing 777-200ER:
For full details on the complete refit plan of the 777s, see the following detailed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...8-onwards.html
Gatwick Subfleet:
Cabin retrofit of 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and upgraded Panasonic IFE. These do not feature the new Club World Suite seat. This commenced in January 2018. All 15 have been completed.
Completed to 77T configuration (32J/52W/252Y):
G-VIIO/P/R/T/U/X
Completed to 77S configuration (32J/48W/252Y):
G-YMMA/B/C/D/E/F
Completed to 77R configuration (14F/48J/40W/136Y):
G-VIIV/W/Y (All 3 currently operating from LHR)
Heathrow Subfleet:
Cabin retrofit of 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and Thales IFE (77M 4-class config) or Panasonic eX3 IFE (77L 3-class config). Both configurations feature the new Club World Suite seat. This commenced in August 2019; all 28 have been completed.
Completed 77M configuration (8F/49J/40W/138Y):
G-VIIA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/J/K/L/M/N/S, G-RAES
Completed 77L configuration (48J/40W/184Y):
G-YMMG/H/I/J/K/L/N/O/P/R/S/T/U
Boeing 777-300ER:
Cabin retrofit commenced in October 2020 in an 8F/76J/40W/130Y configuration with the new Club World Suite seats and Panasonic eX3 IFE. There are currently 9 completed, and the 4 aircraft delivered in 2020/21 (M/N/O/P) were delivered in this configuration:
G-STBA/D/E/F/G/H/J/K/L/M/N/O/P
The following aircraft are believed to be currently undergoing cabin refit at Cardiff:
G-STBB, G-STBI
Boeing 787-8:
Cabin retrofits have commenced to a 31J/37W/136Y configuration with new Club World Suite.
The following aircraft are believed to be currently undergoing cabin refit at Cardiff:
G-ZBJA
Club Suite Fleet Roll Out:
A350-1000
18/18 (100%)
A380
0/12 (0%)
B777-200ER
28/31 (90%)
B777-300ER
13/16 (81%)
B787-8
0/12 (0%)
B787-9
0/18 (0%)
B787-10
7/7 (100%)
Total Fleet: 66/114 (58%)
(Twelve B777 aircraft have been upgraded for LGW service with old Club World Seat and therefore are ignored; it is currently assumed that the three 77R configuration aircraft which were due to operate from LGW will now remain at LHR and undergo some form of conversion to a Club Suite configuration)
Retirements
With all the new arrivals there are also some much loved/hated (*delete as applicable) older aircraft heading for scrapping. Until 2015 most of these ended up in Victorville (VCV) in California for storage and ultimately part out for scrap. Since then most ex-BA planes have been sent to St Athan (DGX) in Wales for scrapping with some 747s sent to Kemble (GBA) in England.
Airbus A319:
G-DBCI - Retired to MAD on 07 Mar 2018
G-EUPV - Retired to DGX on 01 Nov 2018
G-EUOH - Retired to DGX on 05 Sep 2019
G-EUPX - Retired to DGX on 07 Sep 2019
G-EUOI - Retired to DGX on 04 Nov 2019
G-EUPE - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOC - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOD - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOB - Retired to DGX on 16 Mar 2020
G-EUPB - Retired to DGX on 14 Jul 2021
G-EUPH - Retired to DGX on 21 Jul 2021
G-EUPF - Retired to DGX on 30 Jul 2021
G-EUPA - Retired to DGX on 07 Aug 2021
G-EUPC - Retired to DGX on 14 Aug 2021
G-EUPM - Retired to DGX on 30 Jan 2024
A320CEO:
G-MIDY - Retired to DGX on 28 Jun 2023
G-MIDX - Retired to DGX on 02 Jan 2024
A321CEO:
G-MEDJ - Sold Jan 2023 for P2F Conversion
G-MEDG - Sold May 2023
G-MEDU - Sold Jun 2023 for P2F Conversion
G-MEDM - Sold Sept 2023 for P2F Conversion
G-MEDN - Sold Dec 2023 for P2F Conversion
Embraer 190:
G-LCYY - Returned to lessor 20 Jan 2022
G-LCYX - Returned to lessor 01 Sep 2022
G-LCAA - Returned to lessor 15 May 2023
G-LCYW - Returned to lessor 25 May 2023
Historical Fleet
Airbus A318: The last remaining A318 was stored in Mar 2020 and scrapped in Feb 2021. Details are archived here.
Boeing 737: The last remaining 737 was retired in Oct 2015. Details are archived here.
Boeing 747-400: The last remaining 747-400 was retired in Dec 2020. Details are archived here. For further information, see Globaliser's tracker.
Boeing 767: The last remaining 767 was retired in Nov 2018. Details are archived here.
Boeing 777-200 (non ER): The last remaining 777-200 was retired in Aug 2020. Details are archived here.
Embraer 170: The last remaining E170 was retired in Jan 2021. Details are archived here
In the past few years BA has had a large fleet renewal programme. The new aircraft enabled BA to retire the B737, B747 and B767 fleets, along with the B777-200 (non-ER) fleet. Retirement of selected A319 aircraft is currently in progress. The A318 fleet has also been retired, without replacement. At BACF the E170 has been retired in favour of the E190.
This Wiki has been divided into:
- Projected Fleet
- New Arrivals
- Retrofits
- Retirements
- Historical Fleet
Projected Fleet
This renewal programme, which is being complemented with a cabin refresh for some of the older aircraft, is expected to see the following fleet numbers over the next few years:
Heathrow Fleet and Gatwick Fleet
Shorthaul
• A319: 29 currently in fleet
• A320ceo: 65 currently in fleet
• A320neo: 33 (20 currently in fleet)
• A321ceo: 11 (12 currently in fleet)
• A321neo: 20 (14 currently in fleet)
Midhaul
• A321: 1 (Flagged for disposal)
Longhaul
• A350-1000: 18 (18 currently in fleet)
• A380-800: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B777-200ER: 43 (43 currently in fleet)
• B777-300ER: 16 (16 currently in fleet)
• B777-9: 18 (0 currently in fleet)
• B787-8: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B787-9: 18 (18 currently in fleet)
• B787-10: 18 (7 currently in fleet)
London City Fleet
Shorthaul
• E190: 20 (20 currently in fleet)
New Arrivals
Airbus A320ceo:
Ten A320ceos were delivered between June 2013 and October 2014, based at LHR. Ten second hand A320ceos were delivered to LGW between December 2014 and August 2016. Details are archived here.
Airbus A320neo:
35 A320neo family aircraft (25 A320s and 10 A321s) were ordered to replace 21 of the older A319 and A320ceos and add extra capacity. Deliveries started in 2018. In May 2019 three A320neos were converted to A321neo bringing the split to 22 A320s and 13 A321s. Since then more have been added as aircraft ordered via IAG have been added to their various airlines’ fleets.
G-TTNA - Delivered on 10 Apr 2018
G-TTNB - Delivered on 25 Apr 2018
G-TTNC - Delivered on 07 Jun 2018
G-TTND - Delivered on 26 Jul 2018
G-TTNE - Delivered on 21 Sep 2018
G-TTNF - Delivered on 27 Oct 2018
G-TTNG - Delivered on 29 Nov 2018
G-TTNH - Delivered on 17 Jan 2019
G-TTNI - Delivered on 20 Feb 2019
G-TTNJ - Delivered on 28 Feb 2019
G-TTNK - Delivered on 27 Feb 2020
G-TTNL - Delivered on 09 Mar 2020
G-TTNM - Delivered on 11 Dec 2020
G-TTNN - Delivered on 10 Sept 2021
G-TTNO - Delivered on 06 Mar 2021
G-TTNP - Delivered on 10 Nov 2021
G-TTNR - Delivered on 07 Aug 2021
G-TTNS - Delivered on 01 Oct 2022
G-TTNT - Delivered on 28 Oct 2022
G-TTNU - Delivered on 22 Apr 2023
G-TTNV - Undergoing pre-flight preparation
G-TTNW - Due May 2024
G-TTNX - Due Jun 2024
G-TTNY - Due Jun 2024
G-TTNZ - Due Jun 2024
G-TTSA - Due Jul 2025
G-TTSB -
G-TTSC -
G-TTSD -
G-TTSE -
G-TTSF -
G-TTSG -
G-TTSH -
Airbus A321neo:
G-NEOP - Delivered on 27 Mar 2019
G-NEOR - Delivered on 23 Nov 2018
G-NEOS - Delivered on 29 Jan 2019
G-NEOT - Delivered on 01 Mar 2019
G-NEOU - Delivered on 10 May 2019
G-NEOV - Delivered on 30 Aug 2019
G-NEOW - Delivered on 25 Oct 2019
G-NEOX - Delivered on 23 Dec 2019
G-NEOY - Delivered on 15 Jun 2020
G-NEOZ - Delivered on 17 Mar 2020
G-TNEA - Delivered on 25 Oct 2023
G-TNEB - Delivered on 21 Dec 2023
G-TNEC - Delivered on 09 Dec 2023
G-TNED - Delivered on 26 Apr 2024
G-TNEE - Due Jun 2024
G-TNEF - Due Mar 2025
G-TNEG - Due Mar 2025
G-TNEH - Due 2025
G-TNEI - Due 2025
G-TNEJ - Due 2025
Airbus A350-1000:
BA ordered 18 A350-1000s, originally for delivery between 2019 and 2022. These are all based at LHR, being delivered as a 3-class 56J/56W/219Y configuration.
G-XWBA - Delivered on 27 Jul 2019
G-XWBB - Delivered on 19 Sep 2019
G-XWBC - Delivered on 26 Nov 2019
G-XWBD - Delivered on 23 Dec 2019
G-XWBE - Delivered on 12 Feb 2020
G-XWBF - Delivered on 20 May 2020
G-XWBG - Delivered on 02 Oct 2020
G-XWBH - Delivered on 14 Dec 2020
G-XWBI - Delivered on 26 Mar 2022
G-XWBJ - Delivered on 01 Mar 2022
G-XWBK - Delivered on 10 Mar 2022
G-XWBL - Delivered on 29 Apr 2022
G-XWBM - Delivered on 27 Aug 2022
G-XWBN - Delivered on 10 Jun 2023
G-XWBO - Delivered on 19 Jul 2023
G-XWBP - Delivered on 19 Aug 2023
G-XWBR - Delivered on 16 Dec 2023
G-XWBS - Delivered on 21 Feb 2024
Airbus A380-800:
Twelve A380s were delivered between July 2013 and June 2016 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 777-300ER:
Six 777-300ERs were delivered between September 2013 and August 2014 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here. A further three were ordered in November 2018, and a fourth in December 2018.
G-STBM - Delivered on 02 Oct 2020
G-STBN - Delivered on 06 Nov 2020
G-STBO - Delivered on 07 Jan 2021
G-STBP - Delivered on 09 Jan 2021
Boeing 777-9:
In February 2019 BA announced an order for 18 Boeing 777-9 aircraft plus 24 options which will be powered by General Electric GE9X engines. Each aircraft will be fitted with 325 seats in a 4-class, 8F/65J/46W/206Y configuration.
Six aircraft are expected "at the back end of 2026" with the remaining twelve due by the end of 2028. This will result in the older 777s being retired.
Boeing 787-8:
Twelve 787-8s were delivered between June 2013 and November 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 787-9:
Eighteen 787-9s were delivered between September 2015 and June 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 787-10:
BA ordered twelve 787-10s with deliveries starting in 2020: A further six were ordered in 2023 for delivery in 2025-2026. Each aircraft is fitted with 256 seats in a 4 class 8F/48J/35W/165Y configuration.
G-ZBLA - Delivered on 28 Jun 2020
G-ZBLB - Delivered on 01 Jul 2020
G-ZBLC - Delivered on 16 Dec 2022
G-ZBLD - Delivered on 09 Apr 2023
G-ZBLE - Delivered on 26 May 2023
G-ZBLF - Delivered on 17 Sep 2022
G-ZBLG - Delivered on 30 Dec 2022
G-ZBLH - Undergoing pre-flight preparation
G-ZBLI - In final assembly
G-ZBLJ - Due to enter final assembly line end of Apr 2024
G-ZBLK - Due June 2024 (LN 1204)
G-ZBLL - Due August 2024 (LN 1214)
G-ZBLM - Due 2025
G-ZBLN - Due 2025 or 2026
G-ZBLO - Due 2025 or 2026
G-ZBLP - Due 2025 or 2026
G-ZBLR - Due 2025 or 2026
G-ZBLS - Due 2026
Embraer 190:
Three new Embraer 190s were delivered in May 2014 and September 2014. Details are archived here. Thirteen second hand aircraft have since been sourced.
G-LCYV - Delivered on 19 Dec 2015
G-LCYW - Delivered on 25 May 2016
G-LCYZ - Delivered on 17 May 2018
G-LCAA - Delivered on 23 May 2019
G-LCAB - Delivered on 21 July 2019
G-LCAC - Delivered on 21 Aug 2020
G-LCAD - Delivered on 16 Oct 2020
G-LCAE - Delivered on 23 Oct 2020
G-LCAF - Delivered on 11 Dec 2020
G-LCAG - Delivered on 22 May 2021
G-LCAH - Delivered on 10 Sep 2021
Retrofits
A320ceo:
All 51 A320ceo aircraft currently based at LHR have now been reconfigured from CY168 to CY180. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE (unlike the A320neo aircraft), although they no longer feature overhead screens.
5 ex-British Midland International A320ceo aircraft based at LHR/LGW have been reconfigured from CY168 to CY180. These feature the ex-BD cabin in CE (refurbished in 2012) and the slimline Recaro seats in ET.
10 second hand A320ceo aircraft in a CY177 configuration (with Pinnacle cabin fitted on delivery to BA) currently based at LGW are not scheduled for reconfiguration or refurbishment. These aircraft feature tables in CE, but do not feature overhead screens.
A321ceo:
All 14 shorthaul A321ceo aircraft have now been reconfigured from CY205 to CY218. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE (unlike the A321neo aircraft), although they no longer feature overhead screens.
E190SR:
All 20 Embraer E190SR to be densified from CY98 to CY106 and become E190LR, with new slimline seats featuring device holders. First aircraft due May 2024, last due August 2024.
Boeing 777-200ER:
For full details on the complete refit plan of the 777s, see the following detailed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...8-onwards.html
Gatwick Subfleet:
Cabin retrofit of 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and upgraded Panasonic IFE. These do not feature the new Club World Suite seat. This commenced in January 2018. All 15 have been completed.
Completed to 77T configuration (32J/52W/252Y):
G-VIIO/P/R/T/U/X
Completed to 77S configuration (32J/48W/252Y):
G-YMMA/B/C/D/E/F
Completed to 77R configuration (14F/48J/40W/136Y):
G-VIIV/W/Y (All 3 currently operating from LHR)
Heathrow Subfleet:
Cabin retrofit of 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and Thales IFE (77M 4-class config) or Panasonic eX3 IFE (77L 3-class config). Both configurations feature the new Club World Suite seat. This commenced in August 2019; all 28 have been completed.
Completed 77M configuration (8F/49J/40W/138Y):
G-VIIA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/J/K/L/M/N/S, G-RAES
Completed 77L configuration (48J/40W/184Y):
G-YMMG/H/I/J/K/L/N/O/P/R/S/T/U
Boeing 777-300ER:
Cabin retrofit commenced in October 2020 in an 8F/76J/40W/130Y configuration with the new Club World Suite seats and Panasonic eX3 IFE. There are currently 9 completed, and the 4 aircraft delivered in 2020/21 (M/N/O/P) were delivered in this configuration:
G-STBA/D/E/F/G/H/J/K/L/M/N/O/P
The following aircraft are believed to be currently undergoing cabin refit at Cardiff:
G-STBB, G-STBI
Boeing 787-8:
Cabin retrofits have commenced to a 31J/37W/136Y configuration with new Club World Suite.
The following aircraft are believed to be currently undergoing cabin refit at Cardiff:
G-ZBJA
Club Suite Fleet Roll Out:
A350-1000
18/18 (100%)
A380
0/12 (0%)
B777-200ER
28/31 (90%)
B777-300ER
13/16 (81%)
B787-8
0/12 (0%)
B787-9
0/18 (0%)
B787-10
7/7 (100%)
Total Fleet: 66/114 (58%)
(Twelve B777 aircraft have been upgraded for LGW service with old Club World Seat and therefore are ignored; it is currently assumed that the three 77R configuration aircraft which were due to operate from LGW will now remain at LHR and undergo some form of conversion to a Club Suite configuration)
Retirements
With all the new arrivals there are also some much loved/hated (*delete as applicable) older aircraft heading for scrapping. Until 2015 most of these ended up in Victorville (VCV) in California for storage and ultimately part out for scrap. Since then most ex-BA planes have been sent to St Athan (DGX) in Wales for scrapping with some 747s sent to Kemble (GBA) in England.
Airbus A319:
G-DBCI - Retired to MAD on 07 Mar 2018
G-EUPV - Retired to DGX on 01 Nov 2018
G-EUOH - Retired to DGX on 05 Sep 2019
G-EUPX - Retired to DGX on 07 Sep 2019
G-EUOI - Retired to DGX on 04 Nov 2019
G-EUPE - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOC - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOD - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOB - Retired to DGX on 16 Mar 2020
G-EUPB - Retired to DGX on 14 Jul 2021
G-EUPH - Retired to DGX on 21 Jul 2021
G-EUPF - Retired to DGX on 30 Jul 2021
G-EUPA - Retired to DGX on 07 Aug 2021
G-EUPC - Retired to DGX on 14 Aug 2021
G-EUPM - Retired to DGX on 30 Jan 2024
A320CEO:
G-MIDY - Retired to DGX on 28 Jun 2023
G-MIDX - Retired to DGX on 02 Jan 2024
A321CEO:
G-MEDJ - Sold Jan 2023 for P2F Conversion
G-MEDG - Sold May 2023
G-MEDU - Sold Jun 2023 for P2F Conversion
G-MEDM - Sold Sept 2023 for P2F Conversion
G-MEDN - Sold Dec 2023 for P2F Conversion
Embraer 190:
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Historical Fleet
Airbus A318: The last remaining A318 was stored in Mar 2020 and scrapped in Feb 2021. Details are archived here.
Boeing 737: The last remaining 737 was retired in Oct 2015. Details are archived here.
Boeing 747-400: The last remaining 747-400 was retired in Dec 2020. Details are archived here. For further information, see Globaliser's tracker.
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BA fleet: confirmed information on aircraft deliveries, refurbishment and retirements
Mar 21, 2024, 2:30 am
#1457
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,238
I suspect if it’s taking this long then it’s probably going to the GENx and BA ironing out new maintenance contracts for the new engine type which will be their first GENx.
bloomberg at the time said BA was “strongly considering switching” i think at that point their mind was pretty much made up. IMO
and if they go GENx I see the additional 6 options being firmed at some point. So the -10 fleet will be 12 RR and 12 GE
bloomberg at the time said BA was “strongly considering switching” i think at that point their mind was pretty much made up. IMO
and if they go GENx I see the additional 6 options being firmed at some point. So the -10 fleet will be 12 RR and 12 GE
I've heard problems with the time on wing of the Trent XWBs being voiced by the airline community before Covid. One would argue that the problem is minor compared to the debacle that was the Trent 1000 blade cracking, but the airlines have been making noises for a while, and getting to the right level of performance will require a lot of time and effort. Still, my reading is that the biggest issue is not so much the fact that the XWBs need overhauling faster than expected (that's more of a problem for the ME3s) but the fact that the new CEO of RR is after profit margins and he's got a heap of power-by-the-hour contracts that aren't conducive to healthy margins for RR. That'll hamper sales (well, it's already doing so).
Mar 21, 2024, 3:46 am
#1458
Join Date: Jan 2024
Posts: 5
I don't know if there's a delay in getting the engines chosen, after all the planes were signed off (from a business case point of view) towards the end of last year. Getting the config etc ready takes time.
I've heard problems with the time on wing of the Trent XWBs being voiced by the airline community before Covid. One would argue that the problem is minor compared to the debacle that was the Trent 1000 blade cracking, but the airlines have been making noises for a while, and getting to the right level of performance will require a lot of time and effort. Still, my reading is that the biggest issue is not so much the fact that the XWBs need overhauling faster than expected (that's more of a problem for the ME3s) but the fact that the new CEO of RR is after profit margins and he's got a heap of power-by-the-hour contracts that aren't conducive to healthy margins for RR. That'll hamper sales (well, it's already doing so).
I've heard problems with the time on wing of the Trent XWBs being voiced by the airline community before Covid. One would argue that the problem is minor compared to the debacle that was the Trent 1000 blade cracking, but the airlines have been making noises for a while, and getting to the right level of performance will require a lot of time and effort. Still, my reading is that the biggest issue is not so much the fact that the XWBs need overhauling faster than expected (that's more of a problem for the ME3s) but the fact that the new CEO of RR is after profit margins and he's got a heap of power-by-the-hour contracts that aren't conducive to healthy margins for RR. That'll hamper sales (well, it's already doing so).
I was under the impression the concerns regarding time on wing were very much those of EK due to the conditions in the region (heat & sand), which would likely shorten time on wing for all engines, although this wouldn't explain how QR and EY are able to operate the A35K in the exact same conditions. Maybe EK are just after better pricing!
Korean Air have just this morning ordered 27 A35Ks, so even RR aren't hampering sales in this instance.
Mar 21, 2024, 4:08 am
#1459
Join Date: Jan 2019
Programs: BA Exec Club
Posts: 956
I was under the impression the concerns regarding time on wing were very much those of EK due to the conditions in the region (heat & sand), which would likely shorten time on wing for all engines, although this wouldn't explain how QR and EY are able to operate the A35K in the exact same conditions. Maybe EK are just after better pricing!
Korean Air have just this morning ordered 27 A35Ks, so even RR aren't hampering sales in this instance.
Korean Air have just this morning ordered 27 A35Ks, so even RR aren't hampering sales in this instance.
however, if you’ve never used the T1000 engines your XWB contract was already pretty lucrative for RR, so rolling over won’t be a problem. That engine for the most part has done well.
also if you’re a new customer the pricing RR can get will be MUCH better than the T1000 stricken customers that want their credits extended
secondly, if you’re on the 787, GE has taken pretty much every RR customer that has placed new orders in the last 5 years and I’m afraid it looks like BA is next
another reason why the 350 is picking up orders at the minute besides the fact is a great aircraft is airlines just care about the manufacturers ability to deliver. The difference in operating costs between all these jets is so tiny at this point.
As 1309 has said in many other threads, Boeings ability to deliver on time and with the contracted quality is dog ****
so by default Airbus even if they delivery slightly late will deliver with the quality expected. It’s as simple as that.
airlines will not bite too much till Boeing can show they can deliver on time and to the quality they expect.
as for IAG, I’m one of those that believe like United or American Boeing knows which button to press to get them to bite irrespective of what is going on
Last edited by opus99; Mar 21, 2024 at 4:15 am
Mar 21, 2024, 4:23 am
#1460
Join Date: Jan 2024
Posts: 5
RR is having issues with customers that have operated the Trent 1000 engines. And those issues have been spilling over into pricing on the XWB. Those Customers want to continue the existing XWB contracts they have which are heavily influenced by the t1000 issues. RR doesn’t want to do that anymore. Customers are not happy.
secondly, if you’re on the 787, GE has taken pretty much every RR customer that has placed new orders in the last 5 years and I’m afraid it looks like BA is next
secondly, if you’re on the 787, GE has taken pretty much every RR customer that has placed new orders in the last 5 years and I’m afraid it looks like BA is next
Mar 21, 2024, 4:24 am
#1461
Join Date: Jan 2019
Programs: BA Exec Club
Posts: 956
If customers are so unhappy with the Trent 1000 as you state, is it not rather odd that airlines such as KE are still ordering the A35K? Either way, I have no bias as to which manufacture airlines purchase from, unlike some, so as long as it's safe to fly then I'm happy.
KE has no Trent 1000 engines, so why would they be influenced by that.
it’s all about pricing. The customers that use the T1000 want their unfavorable experience on that engine to lead to Lower Trent XWB pricing but RR is saying no.
moreover like I said KEs order is more to do with Boeings inability to deliver to quality and their merger with Asiana
Mar 21, 2024, 4:44 am
#1462
Join Date: Jan 2024
Posts: 5
We are completely off topic here but separate from the merger with OZ and any future fleet synergy, surely it's possible that KE might have ordered the A35K simply because it best meets their criteria, rather than any negatives surround the Boeing product line? This might come as a shock to some but I'm sure many airlines do actually order Airbus aircraft due to preference.
Mar 21, 2024, 4:51 am
#1463
Join Date: Jan 2019
Programs: BA Exec Club
Posts: 956
We are completely off topic here but separate from the merger with OZ and any future fleet synergy, surely it's possible that KE might have ordered the A35K simply because it best meets their criteria, rather than any negatives surround the Boeing product line? This might come as a shock to some but I'm sure many airlines do actually order Airbus aircraft due to preference.
Mar 22, 2024, 2:53 am
#1464
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 375
I 100% agree with opus99 "Boeings ability to deliver on time and with the contracted quality is dog ****
so by default Airbus even if they delivery slightly late will deliver with the quality expected. It’s as simple as that."
And if i may add, IMHO, (and to stir the topic back to BA) BA made a HUGE mistake retiring those 747's this early, yes we know it was old and was about to go anyways, but it seems to me the day BA decided to pull the plug on the 747's they've been struggling with aircrafts ever since.
so by default Airbus even if they delivery slightly late will deliver with the quality expected. It’s as simple as that."
And if i may add, IMHO, (and to stir the topic back to BA) BA made a HUGE mistake retiring those 747's this early, yes we know it was old and was about to go anyways, but it seems to me the day BA decided to pull the plug on the 747's they've been struggling with aircrafts ever since.
Apr 1, 2024, 10:33 am
#1469
Join Date: Feb 2024
Location: MAD, but also LHR/LPL/MAN/SIN
Programs: IB+ Oro (OWS) / FB / SQ
Posts: 116
